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    libraman_92

    [441]Aug 25, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:
    libraman_92 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    libraman_92 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    I would like to point out something about the Zuko/Azula battle in TSR. If Zuko hadn't had friends there to help him, he would have died. He would have fallen to his death at the bottom of the canyon. Azula, on the other hand, was perfectly capable of saving herself. If Zuko had been alone then, he would have died. Azula would have lived, and hence one the fight.
    i think that zuko was holding back a little bit on azula. he cared that she was about to not make it, but after she did zuko realized everyone was there and he said with regret, she did.

    I don't think that either of them were holding anything back in that fight, except Azula's lightning. The fact is that as long as the fight ends the way it did; with both of them being blasted off the War Balloon, Zuko dies if he doesn't have friends to save him. Azula manages to save herself.

    but then why did zuko care that she wasn't going to make it?

    It's hard to say whether he cared or not. His tone was fairly neutral. He sounded far more like he couldn't believe it than that he actually cared (hence the "of course she did").



    true. azula would've died if it wasn't for her firejet move.
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    gangstazuko7

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    Yeah, it's good she did
    I'd hate to see my Azula die like that
    She would be lying next to Sparky Sparky Boom Man's body parts
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    libraman_92

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    gangstazuko7 wrote:
    Yeah, it's good she did
    I'd hate to see my Azula die like that
    She would be lying next to Sparky Sparky Boom Man's body parts


    he was RIP all the way...
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    TitanPredator

    [444]Aug 26, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:
    I would like to point out something about the Zuko/Azula battle in TSR. If Zuko hadn't had friends there to help him, he would have died. He would have fallen to his death at the bottom of the canyon. Azula, on the other hand, was perfectly capable of saving herself. If Zuko had been alone then, he would have died. Azula would have lived, and hence one the fight.

    Yup. Azula could kick Zuko's ass anyday when she is sane! But my point was that Zuko managed to fend off some blue flame attacks of her. So Jeong Jeong could have done that to. And if it was in a normal Agni Kai, with Jeong Jeong vs Azula, none of them could fall of, I'm sure JJ could block some attacks and maybe knock her off balance.

    Basically what I'm trying to say here is that Azula flames can be blocked to. Even by Zuko.

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    Axrendale

    [445]Aug 26, 2008
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    TitanPredator wrote:

    Axrendale wrote:
    I would like to point out something about the Zuko/Azula battle in TSR. If Zuko hadn't had friends there to help him, he would have died. He would have fallen to his death at the bottom of the canyon. Azula, on the other hand, was perfectly capable of saving herself. If Zuko had been alone then, he would have died. Azula would have lived, and hence one the fight.

    Yup. Azula could kick Zuko's ass anyday when she is sane! But my point was that Zuko managed to fend off some blue flame attacks of her. So Jeong Jeong could have done that to. And if it was in a normal Agni Kai, with Jeong Jeong vs Azula, none of them could fall of, I'm sure JJ could block some attacks and maybe knock her off balance.

    Basically what I'm trying to say here is that Azula flames can be blocked to. Even by Zuko.

    Mabye, but it should be remembered that at that point Zuko had learned original firebending, and hence had flames that were of equal strength to Azula's.

    But yeah, Jeong Jeong probably could block Azula's attacks (and she could no doubt block his). The thing is that Jeong Jeong can't block lightning. If Azula finds any space in the fight at all to launch a lightning bolt, Jeong Jeong is history. From what we've seen of jeong jeong, he is not an evasive fighter - he prefers to stand (or hover) in one position and launch devastating attacks at people. All Azula has to do is keep blocking or evading his attacks until he gives her an opening of a few seconds (perhaps while preparing a large attack of his own) and she can skewer him. Azula has youth and energy on her side - odds are that in a test of endurance, she can outlast Jeong Jeong.

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    ThisCrazyGuy

    [446]Aug 26, 2008
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    TitanPredator wrote:

    Axrendale wrote:
    I would like to point out something about the Zuko/Azula battle in TSR. If Zuko hadn't had friends there to help him, he would have died. He would have fallen to his death at the bottom of the canyon. Azula, on the other hand, was perfectly capable of saving herself. If Zuko had been alone then, he would have died. Azula would have lived, and hence one the fight.

    Yup. Azula could kick Zuko's ass anyday when she is sane! But my point was that Zuko managed to fend off some blue flame attacks of her. So Jeong Jeong could have done that to. And if it was in a normal Agni Kai, with Jeong Jeong vs Azula, none of them could fall of, I'm sure JJ could block some attacks and maybe knock her off balance.

    Basically what I'm trying to say here is that Azula flames can be blocked to. Even by Zuko.

    He is perfectly capable of blocking her blue flames, but Azula's youth, agility and intelligence are what would make her prevail, not the colour of her Fire. Her flames can definitely be blocked, but what about her lightning? Azula's lightning is arguably the second most powerul lightning in the show, and we haven't seen her try to do it at full speed... If Azula was able to use her superior youth, agility and speed to battle Jeong Jeong long enough (and I'm sure she could), she could deliver a vicious lightning strike while he is off guard, and considering her lightning is both powerful (and probably really fast when she puts her mind to it) and accurate, Jeong Jeong wouldn't be able to battle that, no matter how many attacks or techniques he knows of. You once again come up with brilliant points TitanPredator . Now let's concentrate on owning the other nations in the RPG! Fire Nation for the win!
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    isabelwhatx

    [447]Aug 26, 2008
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    LMAO. This RPG is taking these forums by storm! I don't understand everyone's obsession with Jeong Jeong, personally. He would never be able to fully use his strength against Azula, anyway. He's scared of fire. He wouldn't want to fully unleash his talents. Azula, on the other hand, doesn't care about destruction. In fact, she feeds off of it. The fight wouldn't be fair at all. Azula, a youthful and agile prodigy, against Jeong Jeong, a petrified old man. I wonder who would win
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    ThisCrazyGuy

    [448]Aug 26, 2008
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    LMAO. This RPG is taking these forums by storm! I don't understand everyone's obsession with Jeong Jeong, personally. He would never be able to fully use his strength against Azula, anyway. He's scared of fire. He wouldn't want to fully unleash his talents. Azula, on the other hand, doesn't care about destruction. In fact, she feeds off of it. The fight wouldn't be fair at all. Azula, a youthful and agile prodigy, against Jeong Jeong, a petrified old man. I wonder who would win
    I would give Jeong Jeong more credit than that, but other than that, you are 100% right.
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    TitanPredator

    [449]Aug 26, 2008
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    LMAO. This RPG is taking these forums by storm! I don't understand everyone's obsession with Jeong Jeong, personally. He would never be able to fully use his strength against Azula, anyway. He's scared of fire. He wouldn't want to fully unleash his talents. Azula, on the other hand, doesn't care about destruction. In fact, she feeds off of it. The fight wouldn't be fair at all. Azula, a youthful and agile prodigy, against Jeong Jeong, a petrified old man. I wonder who would win

    Well, you got a point there, but even when he is "petrified" of his own skills he was able to take out 50 tanks all by himself. Yes I know is was during the comet, but those blasts from the tanks where boosted to, so if there wasn't a comet he would have been able to take them out to. But I think if someone realy is a threat to him or someone elso, he will fight and kick asses!

    And Axrendale and ThisCrazyGuy, you are both right. Azula can outlast him, but I don't think she'll ever get to the point of lightning because Jeong Jeong will always stay focused and concentrated. He will never give her the 2 seconds she needs. And I don't think Jeong Jeong will be creating a massive attack, because that will only give Azula time. And he is not an idiot. So maybe the only way Azula might be able to defeat Jeong Jeong is by outlasting him untill he get's tired, but I doubt he will let her get to that. So I keep my mind at 50/50.

    I just couldn't let it rest. It way to fun to debate with you guys

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    isabelwhatx

    [450]Aug 26, 2008
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    TitanPredator wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    LMAO. This RPG is taking these forums by storm! I don't understand everyone's obsession with Jeong Jeong, personally. He would never be able to fully use his strength against Azula, anyway. He's scared of fire. He wouldn't want to fully unleash his talents. Azula, on the other hand, doesn't care about destruction. In fact, she feeds off of it. The fight wouldn't be fair at all. Azula, a youthful and agile prodigy, against Jeong Jeong, a petrified old man. I wonder who would win

    Well, you got a point there, but even when he is "petrified" of his own skills he was able to take out 50 tanks all by himself. Yes I know is was during the comet, but those blasts from the tanks where boosted to, so if there wasn't a comet he would have been able to take them out to. But I think if someone realy is a threat to him or someone elso, he will fight and kick asses!

    And Axrendale and ThisCrazyGuy, you are both right. Azula can outlast him, but I don't think she'll ever get to the point of lightning because Jeong Jeong will always stay focused and concentrated. He will never give her the 2 seconds she needs. And I don't think Jeong Jeong will be creating a massive attack, because that will only give Azula time. And he is not an idiot. So maybe the only way Azula might be able to defeat Jeong Jeong is by outlasting him untill he get's tired, but I doubt he will let her get to that. So I keep my mind at 50/50.

    I just couldn't let it rest. It way to fun to debate with you guys


    I think he considered those tanks a threat and wasn't petrified, so therefore that was his full power. Plus, brute strength isn't everything. It doesn't matter how powerful your attacks are if they can't hit your target. Azula is too fast for Jeong Jeong and Jeong Jeong is infinitely too slow for Azula. WOOT FOR DEBATING!
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    isabelwhatx

    [451]Aug 26, 2008
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    TitanPredator wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    LMAO. This RPG is taking these forums by storm! I don't understand everyone's obsession with Jeong Jeong, personally. He would never be able to fully use his strength against Azula, anyway. He's scared of fire. He wouldn't want to fully unleash his talents. Azula, on the other hand, doesn't care about destruction. In fact, she feeds off of it. The fight wouldn't be fair at all. Azula, a youthful and agile prodigy, against Jeong Jeong, a petrified old man. I wonder who would win

    Well, you got a point there, but even when he is "petrified" of his own skills he was able to take out 50 tanks all by himself. Yes I know is was during the comet, but those blasts from the tanks where boosted to, so if there wasn't a comet he would have been able to take them out to. But I think if someone realy is a threat to him or someone elso, he will fight and kick asses!

    And Axrendale and ThisCrazyGuy, you are both right. Azula can outlast him, but I don't think she'll ever get to the point of lightning because Jeong Jeong will always stay focused and concentrated. He will never give her the 2 seconds she needs. And I don't think Jeong Jeong will be creating a massive attack, because that will only give Azula time. And he is not an idiot. So maybe the only way Azula might be able to defeat Jeong Jeong is by outlasting him untill he get's tired, but I doubt he will let her get to that. So I keep my mind at 50/50.

    I just couldn't let it rest. It way to fun to debate with you guys


    I think Jeong Jeong considered those tanks a major threat and didn't hold back. I think that's the furhtest extent of his power. Azula has never reached her full potential because she simply hasn't needed to. If you go by the fact that Jeong Jeong is very strong, it still doesn't matter. Being strong doesn't make you invincible. For instance, take Aang in the Avatar state. He is infinitly stronger than any other bender, but Azula still managed to kill him. How? With her resoucrcefullness. Don't underestimate agility. And it's tres fun debating with you
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    isabelwhatx

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    I think Jeong Jeong considered those tanks a major threat and didn't hold back. I think that's the furhtest extent of his power. Azula has never reached her full potential because she simply hasn't needed to. If you go by the fact that Jeong Jeong is very strong, it still doesn't matter. Being strong doesn't make you invincible. For instance, take Aang in the Avatar state. He is infinitly stronger than any other bender, but Azula still managed to kill him. How? With her resoucrcefullness. Don't underestimate agility. And it's tres fun debating with you
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    Axrendale

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    On the subject of Azula's agility and youth - remember what she was able to do during the DoBS invasion. She was able to evade Aang, Toph and Sokka all working together to try and capture her for quite a while. Granted, she had Dai Lee agents helping her, but then, she also didn't have any bending at the time. If she can outrun Aang, Toph, and Sokka, I think she could outrun Jeong Jeong.

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    TitanPredator

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    Axrendale wrote:

    On the subject of Azula's agility and youth - remember what she was able to do during the DoBS invasion. She was able to evade Aang, Toph and Sokka all working together to try and capture her for quite a while. Granted, she had Dai Lee agents helping her, but then, she also didn't have any bending at the time. If she can outrun Aang, Toph, and Sokka, I think she could outrun Jeong Jeong.

    No doubt she could outrun him! She is way faster than him, but don't underestimate his experience and his massive wisdom. He knows what Azula is capable off, just by looking at her a few seconds. Just like he did with Aang. And I dont think she will be able to hide her talents by controlling her hartbeat, because that has very little to do with it. But as I said, I'd keep it a 50/50 situation. But do you think he will put up a good fight, or you think it will be easy for her. I think Jeong Jeong would put up a VERY good fight. And maybe even win. BUt that's just me You guys probably won't agree with me.

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    Axrendale

    [455]Aug 26, 2008
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    Probably not now BACK TO THE RPG! DEFEND THE FIRENATION!
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    isabelwhatx

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    TitanPredator wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    On the subject of Azula's agility and youth - remember what she was able to do during the DoBS invasion. She was able to evade Aang, Toph and Sokka all working together to try and capture her for quite a while. Granted, she had Dai Lee agents helping her, but then, she also didn't have any bending at the time. If she can outrun Aang, Toph, and Sokka, I think she could outrun Jeong Jeong.

    No doubt she could outrun him! She is way faster than him, but don't underestimate his experience and his massive wisdom. He knows what Azula is capable off, just by looking at her a few seconds. Just like he did with Aang. And I dont think she will be able to hide her talents by controlling her hartbeat, because that has very little to do with it. But as I said, I'd keep it a 50/50 situation. But do you think he will put up a good fight, or you think it will be easy for her. I think Jeong Jeong would put up a VERY good fight. And maybe even win. BUt that's just me You guys probably won't agree with me.


    How'd you know? By Jeong Jeong recognizing Azula's talent doesn't give him even more power. Also, you seem to forget that Azula is a prodigy and a self made legend.
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    TitanPredator

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    On the subject of Azula's agility and youth - remember what she was able to do during the DoBS invasion. She was able to evade Aang, Toph and Sokka all working together to try and capture her for quite a while. Granted, she had Dai Lee agents helping her, but then, she also didn't have any bending at the time. If she can outrun Aang, Toph, and Sokka, I think she could outrun Jeong Jeong.

    No doubt she could outrun him! She is way faster than him, but don't underestimate his experience and his massive wisdom. He knows what Azula is capable off, just by looking at her a few seconds. Just like he did with Aang. And I dont think she will be able to hide her talents by controlling her hartbeat, because that has very little to do with it. But as I said, I'd keep it a 50/50 situation. But do you think he will put up a good fight, or you think it will be easy for her. I think Jeong Jeong would put up a VERY good fight. And maybe even win. BUt that's just me You guys probably won't agree with me.

    How'd you know? By Jeong Jeong recognizing Azula's talent doesn't give him even more power. Also, you seem to forget that Azula is a prodigy and a self made legend.

    How can I forget that Azula is a progidy!? But I realy think you dont give Jeong Jeong the credits he deserves. He is a myth, a living legend and a firebending genius. And by recognizing Azula's power he will never underestimate her. But we're never going to agree on this one eihter, just like I can't seem to agree with Axrendale and ThisCrazyGuy

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    isabelwhatx

    [458]Aug 26, 2008
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    Lol, we've both put up some good points We should have another "WHO IS BETTER" war. How about Katara or Pakku? Or Toph or Bumi?
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    Axrendale

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    Those have both been done before. We need something really original.
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    isabelwhatx

    [460]Aug 26, 2008
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    Hmm... maybe we can talk about how Steve (I think that's his name. The lead swampbender who was all GAH MONSTER ATTACK) is a powerful bender. I doubt Katara could bend all of those plants.
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