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    soccerdawg76

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    phoenixfirework wrote:
    Katara from "The Waterbending Master":
    "Look, we're all just a little tired and cranky because we've been flying for two days straight".
    I just realized that it was days, not weeks. Oh, so the guys travelled from the Northern Air Temple, located somewhere inside of the Northern Earth Kingdom mountains, to the North Pole for two days straight. Zhao's ship and fleet were undoubtedly close by and took about the same time. But since there's more ships and they go slower, its hard to say. Maybe around a week, it took Zhao and Zuko to reach the North Pole, so Katara only had between 2 days and a week to train. Now I'm more skeptical of her progress and powers than ever.

    This is the gaang's route:

    Where's Zhao's naval base from the Southern Air Temple, it couldn't have been far from the South Pole, or otherwise Zuko wouldn't have been able to get far, or not needed repairs. And it couldn't have been in the fire nation anyway, because, you know...

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    soccerdawg76 wrote:

    phoenixfirework wrote:
    Katara from "The Waterbending Master":
    "Look, we're all just a little tired and cranky because we've been flying for two days straight".
    I just realized that it was days, not weeks. Oh, so the guys travelled from the Northern Air Temple, located somewhere inside of the Northern Earth Kingdom mountains, to the North Pole for two days straight. Zhao's ship and fleet were undoubtedly close by and took about the same time. But since there's more ships and they go slower, its hard to say. Maybe around a week, it took Zhao and Zuko to reach the North Pole, so Katara only had between 2 days and a week to train. Now I'm more skeptical of her progress and powers than ever.

    This is the gaang's route:

    Where's Zhao's naval base from the Southern Air Temple, it couldn't have been far from the South Pole, or otherwise Zuko wouldn't have been able to get far, or not needed repairs. And it couldn't have been in the fire nation anyway, because, you know...


    I have no idea where Zhao's base is. But if its close enough that Iroh can walk there (when he went to see Zhao) then it must have been close to where Zuko's ship was docked. And Zuko must have been near Aang and the others.
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    phoenixfirework wrote:
    soccerdawg76 wrote:

    phoenixfirework wrote:
    Katara from "The Waterbending Master":
    "Look, we're all just a little tired and cranky because we've been flying for two days straight".
    I just realized that it was days, not weeks. Oh, so the guys travelled from the Northern Air Temple, located somewhere inside of the Northern Earth Kingdom mountains, to the North Pole for two days straight. Zhao's ship and fleet were undoubtedly close by and took about the same time. But since there's more ships and they go slower, its hard to say. Maybe around a week, it took Zhao and Zuko to reach the North Pole, so Katara only had between 2 days and a week to train. Now I'm more skeptical of her progress and powers than ever.

    This is the gaang's route:

    Where's Zhao's naval base from the Southern Air Temple, it couldn't have been far from the South Pole, or otherwise Zuko wouldn't have been able to get far, or not needed repairs. And it couldn't have been in the fire nation anyway, because, you know...


    I have no idea where Zhao's base is. But if its close enough that Iroh can walk there (when he went to see Zhao) then it must have been close to where Zuko's ship was docked. And Zuko must have been near Aang and the others.

    Well Katara never really acheived the rank of Sifu untill Pakku decided to prmote her though she still needs to learrn so much more she's just doing what a real mastr does puts awa her training and teaches others what she knows but Zhao's based is located in the southern Earth kingdom maybe on those islands it took Zhao a few weeks to get their not days well anyway I wondered how long the true time perioud was between Waterbending master and Seige of the north it has to be more than 2 weeks though cause Zhao can't get that far across the sea.

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    [184]Aug 24, 2006
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    Colonel_Brian wrote:
    phoenixfirework wrote:
    soccerdawg76 wrote:

    phoenixfirework wrote:
    Katara from "The Waterbending Master":
    "Look, we're all just a little tired and cranky because we've been flying for two days straight".
    I just realized that it was days, not weeks. Oh, so the guys travelled from the Northern Air Temple, located somewhere inside of the Northern Earth Kingdom mountains, to the North Pole for two days straight. Zhao's ship and fleet were undoubtedly close by and took about the same time. But since there's more ships and they go slower, its hard to say. Maybe around a week, it took Zhao and Zuko to reach the North Pole, so Katara only had between 2 days and a week to train. Now I'm more skeptical of her progress and powers than ever.

    This is the gaang's route:

    Where's Zhao's naval base from the Southern Air Temple, it couldn't have been far from the South Pole, or otherwise Zuko wouldn't have been able to get far, or not needed repairs. And it couldn't have been in the fire nation anyway, because, you know...


    I have no idea where Zhao's base is. But if its close enough that Iroh can walk there (when he went to see Zhao) then it must have been close to where Zuko's ship was docked. And Zuko must have been near Aang and the others.

    Well Katara never really acheived the rank of Sifu untill Pakku decided to prmote her though she still needs to learrn so much more she's just doing what a real mastr does puts awa her training and teaches others what she knows but Zhao's based is located in the southern Earth kingdom maybe on those islands it took Zhao a few weeks to get their not days well anyway I wondered how long the true time perioud was between Waterbending master and Seige of the north it has to be more than 2 weeks though cause Zhao can't get that far across the sea.


    We're talking about that other base in the Northern Earth Kingdom that appeared in the beginning of "The Waterbending Master" not the base that appeared in "The Southern Air Temple". Where has this "two weeks" thing come from? Katara said it took the guys two days to reach the North Pole, not two weeks.
    Pakku made Katara a master, Aang calls Katara sifu. Its different.
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    Well, he never called Katara Sifu, that offended her. But also it's been hinted at just a few days between the master and the siege, because none of Zuko's cuts heeled.
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    soccerdawg76 wrote:
    Well, he never called Katara Sifu, that offended her. But also it's been hinted at just a few days between the master and the siege, because none of Zuko's cuts heeled.

    Aang called Katara sifu at the end of their training at that pond in "Bitter Work". Katara was offended to hear Aang call Toph sifu when he never called her that.
    True, none of Zuko's cuts healed. They should have after two weeks, Speaking of which, where did two weeks come from?
    Katara said: "Look, we're all just a little tired and cranky because we've been flying for two days straight".
    TWO DAYS, not weeks like I originally thought.

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    soccerdawg76 wrote:
    Well, he never called Katara Sifu, that offended her. But also it's been hinted at just a few days between the master and the siege, because none of Zuko's cuts heeled.


    Don't you think it's just a bit odd how Aang EASILY picked up on the moves Katara taught him in 109 but then all of a sudden Katara is a prodigy and a genius waterbender and Aang is a horrible waterbender who won't get the easiest of moves until "he's my [Pakku's] age." The writers can't have it both ways. Either Aang can pick up on things quickly all the time, or Katara can pick up things easily all the time, not half and half.

    I'm baffled. Aang could do the huge water wave before Katara, and she had been practicing for months, while Aang was doing it for a few minutes. Then Aang can't do waterbending for crap 9 episodes later, and Katara's nearly a master in 11 episodes. I don't think so...
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    pooldude256 wrote:
    soccerdawg76 wrote:
    Well, he never called Katara Sifu, that offended her. But also it's been hinted at just a few days between the master and the siege, because none of Zuko's cuts heeled.
    Don't you think it's just a bit odd how Aang EASILY picked up on the moves Katara taught him in 109 but then all of a sudden Katara is a prodigy and a genius waterbender and Aang is a horrible waterbender who won't get the easiest of moves until "he's my [Pakku's] age." The writers can't have it both ways. Either Aang can pick up on things quickly all the time, or Katara can pick up things easily all the time, not half and half. I'm baffled. Aang could do the huge water wave before Katara, and she had been practicing for months, while Aang was doing it for a few minutes. Then Aang can't do waterbending for crap 9 episodes later, and Katara's nearly a master in 11 episodes. I don't think so...

    *appluads*

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    pooldude256 wrote:
    soccerdawg76 wrote:
    Well, he never called Katara Sifu, that offended her. But also it's been hinted at just a few days between the master and the siege, because none of Zuko's cuts heeled.


    Don't you think it's just a bit odd how Aang EASILY picked up on the moves Katara taught him in 109 but then all of a sudden Katara is a prodigy and a genius waterbender and Aang is a horrible waterbender who won't get the easiest of moves until "he's my [Pakku's] age." The writers can't have it both ways. Either Aang can pick up on things quickly all the time, or Katara can pick up things easily all the time, not half and half.

    I'm baffled. Aang could do the huge water wave before Katara, and she had been practicing for months, while Aang was doing it for a few minutes. Then Aang can't do waterbending for crap 9 episodes later, and Katara's nearly a master in 11 episodes. I don't think so...

    Yep.
    I see it as, Aang has the skill and Katara has the want to learn. Just cause Aang has the skill and ability to be great, doesn't guarantee he can be better. Katara was determined and (gained freaky powerful moves out of nowhere) wanted to prove that a woman could beat guys. I think the creators only made her so good to prove that and to suit her new: kick ass, prodigy, perfect character... hey I just defended Katara.
    And yeah, I think its really odd that she became so good, much better than Aang.
    He mastered moves that took her months to learn in one try. And then all of sudden, she's the master and he's being taught by her.
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    phoenixfirework wrote:
    pooldude256 wrote:
    soccerdawg76 wrote:
    Well, he never called Katara Sifu, that offended her. But also it's been hinted at just a few days between the master and the siege, because none of Zuko's cuts heeled.
    Don't you think it's just a bit odd how Aang EASILY picked up on the moves Katara taught him in 109 but then all of a sudden Katara is a prodigy and a genius waterbender and Aang is a horrible waterbender who won't get the easiest of moves until "he's my [Pakku's] age." The writers can't have it both ways. Either Aang can pick up on things quickly all the time, or Katara can pick up things easily all the time, not half and half. I'm baffled. Aang could do the huge water wave before Katara, and she had been practicing for months, while Aang was doing it for a few minutes. Then Aang can't do waterbending for crap 9 episodes later, and Katara's nearly a master in 11 episodes. I don't think so...

    Yep.
    I see it as, Aang has the skill and Katara has the want to learn. Just cause Aang has the skill and ability to be great, doesn't guarantee he can be better. Katara was determined and (gained freaky powerful moves out of nowhere) wanted to prove that a woman could beat guys. I think the creators only made her so good to prove that and to suit her new: kick ass, prodigy, perfect character... hey I just defended Katara.
    And yeah, I think its really odd that she became so good, much better than Aang.
    He mastered moves that took her months to learn in one try. And then all of sudden, she's the master and he's being taught by her.

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    soccerdawg76 wrote:

    *continues applause*


    Huh?
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    I'm applauding you and pooldude for bringing up points on how the creators are bending over backwards to make Katara look great.
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    soccerdawg76 wrote:
    I'm applauding you and pooldude for bringing up points on how the creators are bending over backwards to make Katara look great.


    So true. They're trying, for lack of a better term, "trying to give her a pair," which if you know what I'm talking about is kind of weird...

    Maybe it's all part of the grand scheme of feminism. Make a strong female character on a TV show which mostly young boys watch, and make boys think all girls are rough and tough like Katara. I knew it.....I KNEW IT!!

    Ok I'm only joking, at least with the last part. I've been awake since before 10 this morning and I'm still up and running mostly on caffeine, so I've got to do something to entertain myself, right?

    Back to the point, I get how the creators are trying to portray Katara as determined and Aang is just a kid and all, but they portray it as if becoming a master bender is something you can easily accomplish, when really its not. Like Roku said, it takes years of practicing an element(s) to become a true master.
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    pooldude256 wrote:
    soccerdawg76 wrote:
    I'm applauding you and pooldude for bringing up points on how the creators are bending over backwards to make Katara look great.
    So true. They're trying, for lack of a better term, "trying to give her a pair," which if you know what I'm talking about is kind of weird... Maybe it's all part of the grand scheme of feminism. Make a strong female character on a TV show which mostly young boys watch, and make boys think all girls are rough and tough like Katara. I knew it.....I KNEW IT!! Ok I'm only joking, at least with the last part. I've been awake since before 10 this morning and I'm still up and running mostly on caffeine, so I've got to do something to entertain myself, right? Back to the point, I get how the creators are trying to portray Katara as determined and Aang is just a kid and all, but they portray it as if becoming a master bender is something you can easily accomplish, when really its not. Like Roku said, it takes years of practicing an element(s) to become a true master.

    My sleep schedule screwed up, too. I woke up at 8 with my dogs this morning duirng a storm, and then again every 10 minutes. Wimps were afraid. I was asleep till 11:30 for the most part though, I need some sleep.

    Back on topic (gag), Katara is "the perfect character." I've said it so many times before and I'll say it again: jsut like Ashley on Fresh Prince. They're: cool, tough, popular, everyone always lieks them (as friends and more), and whenever they do something bad, it's cool, they apologize and everyone agrees with them.

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    I think Aang's superiority to Katara was only done because he was the Avatar and to set a plot for "The Waterbending Scroll". After that, Katara became the master. In "The Waterbending Master", Katara was superior and from there on. Aang's superiority only lasted one episode, which I think was merely used to set up "The Waterbending Scroll"'s plot.
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    phoenixfirework wrote:
    I think Aang's superiority to Katara was only done because he was the Avatar and to set a plot for "The Waterbending Scroll". After that, Katara became the master. In "The Waterbending Master", Katara was superior and from there on. Aang's superiority only lasted one episode, which I think was merely used to set up "The Waterbending Scroll"'s plot.

    Proving more than ever the writers are digging themselves into a hole! If he was better once, he's better for ever.

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    soccerdawg76 wrote:

    phoenixfirework wrote:
    I think Aang's superiority to Katara was only done because he was the Avatar and to set a plot for "The Waterbending Scroll". After that, Katara became the master. In "The Waterbending Master", Katara was superior and from there on. Aang's superiority only lasted one episode, which I think was merely used to set up "The Waterbending Scroll"'s plot.

    Proving more than ever the writers are digging themselves into a hole! If he was better once, he's better for ever.


    Not necessarily. Just cause Aang had a freaky knack for Waterbending doesn't really mean he will always be better than Katara. He's carefree and was seen not taking his training seriously. Katara did take training seriously and worked very hard. Though her sudden superiority to Aang and now teaching him is, well... noticeable and a major plothole.
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    phoenixfirework wrote:
    soccerdawg76 wrote:

    phoenixfirework wrote:
    I think Aang's superiority to Katara was only done because he was the Avatar and to set a plot for "The Waterbending Scroll". After that, Katara became the master. In "The Waterbending Master", Katara was superior and from there on. Aang's superiority only lasted one episode, which I think was merely used to set up "The Waterbending Scroll"'s plot.

    Proving more than ever the writers are digging themselves into a hole! If he was better once, he's better for ever.


    Not necessarily. Just cause Aang had a freaky knack for Waterbending doesn't really mean he will always be better than Katara. He's carefree and was seen not taking his training seriously. Katara did take training seriously and worked very hard. Though her sudden superiority to Aang and now teaching him is, well... noticeable and a major plothole.


    He wasn't taking training seriously in TWS. Remember at first he wanted to go into the pond for a swim (he got all the way into his speedo, until Katara told him to put his pants back on). And he did the "over-the-head-flare" which Katara believed was unnecessary. In that episode he was fooling around too but still got it VERY easily. They made Aang seem like a weakling, and Katara was all of a sudden a master waterbender, and they even received THE SAME TRAINING! Aang had a knack for learning before, so why would that disappear now? He's got the Avatar spirit inside him, he just has to awaken the waterbender inside him. Katara tought herself apparently to do like 3 moves and Aang caught on MUCH quicker because he's already a waterbending master inside, he just needs a teacher to work with and awaken that part of him. Katara, however, is not a reincarnation of anything, so she has nothing to draw off of and even when working with a master/teacher would naturally take longer for her to learn a move than the freakin' Avatar.

    You see, the Avatar has a natural learning curve with all the elements EXCEPT their natural opposite, hence why Aang caught on to air, water, and fire so quickly, but had trouble with earth. The fact still remains, though, that Aang should have been one-step ahead of Katara, as they went to the North Pole to teach AANG how to master waterbending, not KATARA.

    Katara a mary-sue? Ehhh...I don't know about that, she's not that extreme...yet. The fact still remains Katara is really not a master, and she should have progressed faster than Aang in their waterbending.

    I guess Katara is all about herself. We saw it in TWS, and again in the TWM and the season 1 finale when she pretty much told Pakku to f-off and then hogged all his training for herself. That's her flaw, she's selfish.
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    pooldude256 wrote:
    phoenixfirework wrote:
    soccerdawg76 wrote:

    phoenixfirework wrote:
    I think Aang's superiority to Katara was only done because he was the Avatar and to set a plot for "The Waterbending Scroll". After that, Katara became the master. In "The Waterbending Master", Katara was superior and from there on. Aang's superiority only lasted one episode, which I think was merely used to set up "The Waterbending Scroll"'s plot.

    Proving more than ever the writers are digging themselves into a hole! If he was better once, he's better for ever.


    Not necessarily. Just cause Aang had a freaky knack for Waterbending doesn't really mean he will always be better than Katara. He's carefree and was seen not taking his training seriously. Katara did take training seriously and worked very hard. Though her sudden superiority to Aang and now teaching him is, well... noticeable and a major plothole.
    He wasn't taking training seriously in TWS. Remember at first he wanted to go into the pond for a swim (he got all the way into his speedo, until Katara told him to put his pants back on). And he did the "over-the-head-flare" which Katara believed was unnecessary. In that episode he was fooling around too but still got it VERY easily. They made Aang seem like a weakling, and Katara was all of a sudden a master waterbender, and they even received THE SAME TRAINING! Aang had a knack for learning before, so why would that disappear now? He's got the Avatar spirit inside him, he just has to awaken the waterbender inside him. Katara tought herself apparently to do like 3 moves and Aang caught on MUCH quicker because he's already a waterbending master inside, he just needs a teacher to work with and awaken that part of him. Katara, however, is not a reincarnation of anything, so she has nothing to draw off of and even when working with a master/teacher would naturally take longer for her to learn a move than the freakin' Avatar. You see, the Avatar has a natural learning curve with all the elements EXCEPT their natural opposite, hence why Aang caught on to air, water, and fire so quickly, but had trouble with earth. The fact still remains, though, that Aang should have been one-step ahead of Katara, as they went to the North Pole to teach AANG how to master waterbending, not KATARA. Katara a mary-sue? Ehhh...I don't know about that, she's not that extreme...yet. The fact still remains Katara is really not a master, and she should have progressed faster than Aang in their waterbending. I guess Katara is all about herself. We saw it in TWS, and again in the TWM and the season 1 finale when she pretty much told Pakku to f-off and then hogged all his training for herself. That's her flaw, she's selfish.

    Dang, poodude, you took my job!

    It took awhile but I happen to like Katara now. Yes, she's not a perfect character; she has flaws and strengths like any other human. And I think the idea she hogged all the training at the NP is highly likely. It helps explain why she advanced so quickly without a need for a plot jump; though I wouldn't call her selfish in learning Waterbending, just ambitious. She was the sole Waterbender of the South Pole, it made her feel special. Being a Waterbender is her identity, but when she saw Aang do even better than her it was damage to her ego. Sometimes people need to have a lesson in humiliation, it helps??us realize we're not??hot stuff and should be opened to learn more and grow. Heck,??I'm a talented writer but I know as well as my teachers I??still have a lot to learn before I write novels professionally.

    On the subject why Katara is a Master Waterbender,??the writers were probably faced??with the task of either slowing Katara's progress and diminishing a huge part of her character??(She is the??representation of Water, she needs to be strong and skilled for that purpose??alone) or??doing an unrealistic plot jump where she gained Master status overnight. Neither choice it very pleasant but its better storytelling that they did the unrealistic plot jump.

    And for all you calling Katara a Mary Sue, shut up. I prefer a strong, developed character??that sometimes reeks of MS when she's the only girl around as opposed to a weaker character. Anyone watch Naruto? Yeah, Haruno Sakura is the perfect example??when??girls??lacking the "Sue-traits" (as??everyone put it) are the??heroine in the story. Give me a Katara over a Sakura??any day.??

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    FreakishChild wrote:
    pooldude256 wrote:
    phoenixfirework wrote:
    soccerdawg76 wrote:

    phoenixfirework wrote:
    I think Aang's superiority to Katara was only done because he was the Avatar and to set a plot for "The Waterbending Scroll". After that, Katara became the master. In "The Waterbending Master", Katara was superior and from there on. Aang's superiority only lasted one episode, which I think was merely used to set up "The Waterbending Scroll"'s plot.

    Proving more than ever the writers are digging themselves into a hole! If he was better once, he's better for ever.


    Not necessarily. Just cause Aang had a freaky knack for Waterbending doesn't really mean he will always be better than Katara. He's carefree and was seen not taking his training seriously. Katara did take training seriously and worked very hard. Though her sudden superiority to Aang and now teaching him is, well... noticeable and a major plothole.
    He wasn't taking training seriously in TWS. Remember at first he wanted to go into the pond for a swim (he got all the way into his speedo, until Katara told him to put his pants back on). And he did the "over-the-head-flare" which Katara believed was unnecessary. In that episode he was fooling around too but still got it VERY easily. They made Aang seem like a weakling, and Katara was all of a sudden a master waterbender, and they even received THE SAME TRAINING! Aang had a knack for learning before, so why would that disappear now? He's got the Avatar spirit inside him, he just has to awaken the waterbender inside him. Katara tought herself apparently to do like 3 moves and Aang caught on MUCH quicker because he's already a waterbending master inside, he just needs a teacher to work with and awaken that part of him. Katara, however, is not a reincarnation of anything, so she has nothing to draw off of and even when working with a master/teacher would naturally take longer for her to learn a move than the freakin' Avatar. You see, the Avatar has a natural learning curve with all the elements EXCEPT their natural opposite, hence why Aang caught on to air, water, and fire so quickly, but had trouble with earth. The fact still remains, though, that Aang should have been one-step ahead of Katara, as they went to the North Pole to teach AANG how to master waterbending, not KATARA. Katara a mary-sue? Ehhh...I don't know about that, she's not that extreme...yet. The fact still remains Katara is really not a master, and she should have progressed faster than Aang in their waterbending. I guess Katara is all about herself. We saw it in TWS, and again in the TWM and the season 1 finale when she pretty much told Pakku to f-off and then hogged all his training for herself. That's her flaw, she's selfish.

    Dang, poodude, you took my job!

    It took awhile but I happen to like Katara now. Yes, she's not a perfect character; she has flaws and strengths like any other human. And I think the idea she hogged all the training at the NP is highly likely. It helps explain why she advanced so quickly without a need for a plot jump; though I wouldn't call her selfish in learning Waterbending, just ambitious. She was the sole Waterbender of the South Pole, it made her feel special. Being a Waterbender is her identity, but when she saw Aang do even better than her it was damage to her ego. Sometimes people need to have a lesson in humiliation, it helps us realize we're not hot stuff and should be opened to learn more and grow. Heck, I'm a talented writer but I know as well as my teachers I still have a lot to learn before I write novels professionally.

    On the subject why Katara is a Master Waterbender, the writers were probably faced with the task of either slowing Katara's progress and diminishing a huge part of her character (She is the representation of Water, she needs to be strong and skilled for that purpose alone) or doing an unrealistic plot jump where she gained Master status overnight. Neither choice it very pleasant but its better storytelling that they did the unrealistic plot jump.

    And for all you calling Katara a Mary Sue, shut up. I prefer a strong, developed character that sometimes reeks of MS when she's the only girl around as opposed to a weaker character. Anyone watch Naruto? Yeah, Haruno Sakura is the perfect example when girls lacking the "Sue-traits" (as everyone put it) are the heroine in the story. Give me a Katara over a Sakura any day.


    Both excellent points. And when I call Katara a Mary Sue or perfect I mean that in the show. She lacks flaws and is seen as perfect in the show. In real life, I find flaws in her: like her lack of flaws or too much praise, and of course, her huge advancement in Waterbending.
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