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Does Katara love Aang? The Ending

After seeing the new trailer, wich ship ( you think ) will happen?

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    Dawrel

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    jrsygrl0601 wrote:
    KataangFever wrote:
    I think that CM is principled to finish the work.

    By the way, looks to me like Katara is saying, that he would never try ruin their relationship.

    And the other thing, it looks like Katara would kill him for hurting only Aang.Looks like she cares only about Aang.
    Katara, to me, seems to have a motherly love for Aang. Just like if someone were to hurt a mother's child, it would basically be over for that person. Katara and Zuko relationship is deeper than that because of the struggle they must go through in order to obtain it. Their past anguish, their present emotions, the tension, the love, the hate, all that works for them. Now, if you look at Aang and Katara's relationship, maybe there's love (more motherly affection towards a child than anything, she want to protect him, and make sure he's alright at all time, etc,) there is no passion, no mixture of emotions, no tension, no anger and love, nothing. I feel that soon Zuko and Katara will become quite close, since they are going to be seeing alot of each other for a while and Zutara will win this war of ships!

    That's one way to look at it (which I don't agree with but that's beside the point).

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    spade749

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    %/ Some WAT Spoilers so don't read if you haven't seen it/% Just saw WAT. Pretty good, though honestly I was hoping for a more epic battle to bring down CM. Still, not bad at all. Truly I expected Zuko to have a longer, harder time joining the group, all past interactions considered. As for becoming Aang's firebending teacher, we all knew that it had to be either him or Iroh, so that really wasn't a surprise. I'm expecting Zuko will also teach Aang the lightning bending technique in order to defend himself from Ozai, which makes me think that when the final confrontation does happened, only Aang, Irohand Zuko are going to be able to face him, as only they can survive such an attack, though I'm expecting Aang to go at it alone. What I'm hoping to see is Zuko and Katara getting closer, not out of support forZutara, though I admit to being a supporter, but because I think Zuko will see there is much she can teach him, as Iroh said he learned the technique for directing lightning from the waterbenders. As for shipping, do I think Zutara or Kataang will happened? My belief is neither. As I think about it, I believe there are several reason why the writers will avoid any absolution it this. First being, if they ever did provide any certainty in this, then the show would likely lose favor from alot of its viewers. I know that if I was in charge of scripting, I would want to leave shipping up in the air as to keep all sides watching. I'm sure we're going to see more Zutara. I'm sure we're going to see more Kataang. I'm pretty certain we're not going to see the outcome of either though. I also remeber being as old as Aang is now and how I used to think I was in love all the time, and how naive I was in thinking I understood relationships so well at such an age. But again, this is only opinion and prediction. Think what you want of it.
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    Dawrel wrote:

    jrsygrl0601 wrote:
    KataangFever wrote:
    I think that CM is principled to finish the work.

    By the way, looks to me like Katara is saying, that he would never try ruin their relationship.

    And the other thing, it looks like Katara would kill him for hurting only Aang.Looks like she cares only about Aang.
    Katara, to me, seems to have a motherly love for Aang. Just like if someone were to hurt a mother's child, it would basically be over for that person. Katara and Zuko relationship is deeper than that because of the struggle they must go through in order to obtain it. Their past anguish, their present emotions, the tension, the love, the hate, all that works for them. Now, if you look at Aang and Katara's relationship, maybe there's love (more motherly affection towards a child than anything, she want to protect him, and make sure he's alright at all time, etc,) there is no passion, no mixture of emotions, no tension, no anger and love, nothing. I feel that soon Zuko and Katara will become quite close, since they are going to be seeing alot of each other for a while and Zutara will win this war of ships!

    That's one way to look at it (which I don't agree with but that's beside the point).

    Yeah, the way to read other's interpretations is to say that it's one way to look at it, and if you say something else, then offer reasons as to why you say different.
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    Atu_1 wrote:
    Dawrel wrote:

    jrsygrl0601 wrote:
    KataangFever wrote:
    I think that CM is principled to finish the work.

    By the way, looks to me like Katara is saying, that he would never try ruin their relationship.

    And the other thing, it looks like Katara would kill him for hurting only Aang.Looks like she cares only about Aang.
    Katara, to me, seems to have a motherly love for Aang. Just like if someone were to hurt a mother's child, it would basically be over for that person. Katara and Zuko relationship is deeper than that because of the struggle they must go through in order to obtain it. Their past anguish, their present emotions, the tension, the love, the hate, all that works for them. Now, if you look at Aang and Katara's relationship, maybe there's love (more motherly affection towards a child than anything, she want to protect him, and make sure he's alright at all time, etc,) there is no passion, no mixture of emotions, no tension, no anger and love, nothing. I feel that soon Zuko and Katara will become quite close, since they are going to be seeing alot of each other for a while and Zutara will win this war of ships!

    That's one way to look at it (which I don't agree with but that's beside the point).

    Yeah, the way to read other's interpretations is to say that it's one way to look at it, and if you say something else, then offer reasons as to why you say different.

    That's not really how relationships work in real life, but okay... whatever works.
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    jrsygrl0601 wrote:
    KataangFever wrote:
    I think that CM is principled to finish the work.

    By the way, looks to me like Katara is saying, that he would never try ruin their relationship.

    And the other thing, it looks like Katara would kill him for hurting only Aang.Looks like she cares only about Aang.
    Katara, to me, seems to have a motherly love for Aang. Just like if someone were to hurt a mother's child, it would basically be over for that person. Katara and Zuko relationship is deeper than that because of the struggle they must go through in order to obtain it. Their past anguish, their present emotions, the tension, the love, the hate, all that works for them. Now, if you look at Aang and Katara's relationship, maybe there's love (more motherly affection towards a child than anything, she want to protect him, and make sure he's alright at all time, etc,) there is no passion, no mixture of emotions, no tension, no anger and love, nothing. I feel that soon Zuko and Katara will become quite close, since they are going to be seeing alot of each other for a while and Zutara will win this war of ships!

    Did you see Katara's expressions in the Headband? I'm not sure where people come up with this "She's more of a mother to him" stuff. I'm motherly to my friends AND my boyfriend. Also considering Katara's attitude towards Zuko, she's mad at him for messing with the people that she loves. I'm like that too when my friends tell me about people who do them wrong. Katara's just the person who is very compassionate to the people she cares about. And isn't that the best kind of love?

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    I DECLARE THIS THREAD DEAD! NOW LET IT DIE PEOPLE! NO MORE POSTING! YEAH THIS IS THE FINAL POST!
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    thesond1234 wrote:
    I DECLARE THIS THREAD DEAD! NOW LET IT DIE PEOPLE! NO MORE POSTING! YEAH THIS IS THE FINAL POST!
    Not on my watch!
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    KILL IT! KILL IT NOW!!! WE ALREADY GOT A RELATIONSHIP DISCUSSION THREAD! THIS PLACE IS USELESS! I turned off caps finally.
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    Dawrel

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    *Aliveating thread*

    (Yes I know it's not a word...)

    Edit: Couldn't say "revive" because it isn't dead

    Edited on 12/15/2007 12:51pm
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    I still think she loves him! .
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    Dawrel

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    As a girlfriend!
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    Miss_Katara wrote:
    I still think she loves him! .


    Me too! Go Kataang! WOOT!

    (Sorry, I had a moment... )
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    Kill the thread.
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    thesond1234 wrote:
    I DECLARE THIS THREAD DEAD! NOW LET IT DIE PEOPLE! NO MORE POSTING! YEAH THIS IS THE FINAL POST!

    Aw come on. You post that after my post? Are you pooldude? No? ok then.

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    Gangsta version:
    Katara: ufck with Aang and I'll kill yo ass!

    (Anyone get the joke with the first word? You know how rap songs be edited with the words sounding scrambled like that?)
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    Atu_1 wrote:
    Gangsta version: Katara: ufck with Aang and I'll kill yo ass! (Anyone get the joke with the first word? You know how rap songs be edited with the words sounding scrambled like that?)

    Those edited songs are fun to laugh at.

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    himmanx

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    For the love of god... Its a goddamn TV show. All the detailed explanations of "In (insert time here) she leaned in", or "In (insert time here) She blinks rapidly", are sickening. This isn't real life. Its a TV show and your all too darned addicted or sucked out of real life to get lost in fantasy world.

    However, if you ask me for my view, im a kataang guy and though im not objectionable to zutara, I find it less favorable. When i first heard of Zutara, trust me, it was random. Didn't see it coming, didn't expect it to even exist. This whole relationship seemed implausible, and not up for debate, but since it got 1000+ threads, i might as well write about it.

    The idea that Aang loves Katara is proven fact. It was repeated multiple times throughout the series. For anyone who says that "its just a kiddie crush", like i said. ITS A TV SHOW FOR KIDS. Romance is a major part of kiddie shows, and its going to be cliche, like it or not. Main guy and main girl hook up, they live happily ever after. Even if it were more mature, then the story line would go: he had a crush, some conflict, got over it, went out with another girl, conflict, conflict, conflict, HOOKS UP WITH ORIGINAL CRUSH BECAUSE IT WAS MEANT TO BE FROM THE START. Its gonna end cliche.

    Secondly, two and a half seasons of Kataang wont be thrown out the window. Trust me. 50+ episodes aren't going to waste because Katara and Zuko look good together. Its too much of a waste and the creators won't risk losing the majority of the viewers, i.e. kataang shippers.

    As for the Zutarian argument that Aang is too young, I don't think it matters. I'm disturbed by this point too because i an old fashioned and i like the guy to be older than the girl. Nonetheless, the world is changing and younger guy hooks up with older girl isn't much of a problem anymore. The writers, probably aware of that, adjust the story so that the plot is layed out with archetypes mixing with the ever changing morals of society. Hence, the motherly figure and the playful boy who is dependant on motherly figure. Besides, when their in their later 20's a slight age difference (never mind one of just two years), won't matter much.

    Next, for those who say that Katara doesn't love Aang, in the Headband she was jealous of Aang know name) and earlier on, when they went to the woman warrior island, she was jealous at Aangs affiliation with other girls. Although she may not have started with a romantic view of him, she definitely has some feelings now. Besides, if she doesn't love Aang, there is no chance that she should like Zuko.

    Next, for those saying that Aang is a monk, MONKS CAN BE IN RELATIONSHIPS. At least, in the Avatar world, i think all the monks are airbenders, and all airbenders are monks. If they cant be in relationships, that means that the entire monk population was created by other people. Highly unlikely, even for a small population. The creators want simplicity for comprehension, so its probably that monks can be in relationships. Furthermore, If Aang doesn't have a child, he truly is the last airbender. This means the avatar chain is broken, putting waste to ideologies such as 'Keeping the avatar alive for balance in the world'.

    Besides, zutara has nothing as biased to kataang. Katara has pity on Zuko for 5 minutes and its like their relationshp is meant to be. Sure they have a lot in common and Katara, being the girl that she is, pities Zuko. BUT, in a similar context, Katara could understand how Jet felt, and Katara could understand how Aang felt, to lose the one they loved. Katara and Aang, has a much deeper relationship than that. It slowly developed from her caring for a poor kid in an iceberg who was oblivious for the war, to a realization that he was a great guy who would never let her down.

    Finally, zutara means that everything developed thus far would come to ruins. Like i said, this is a kids show. They keep it simple, no changing everything worked on thus far at the very end so that some people could be happy. It might happen but, hell, be realistic.

    (BTW, I just got sucked into this because I looked up book 3 chp 9, BAD MISTAKE)

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    himmanx wrote:

    For the love of god... Its a goddamn TV show. All the detailed explanations of "In (insert time here) she leaned in", or "In (insert time here) She blinks rapidly", are sickening. This isn't real life. Its a TV show and your all too darned addicted or sucked out of real life to get lost in fantasy world.

    However, if you ask me for my view, im a kataang guy and though im not objectionable to zutara, I find it less favorable. When i first heard of Zutara, trust me, it was random. Didn't see it coming, didn't expect it to even exist. This whole relationship seemed implausible, and not up for debate, but since it got 1000+ threads, i might as well write about it.

    The idea that Aang loves Katara is proven fact. It was repeated multiple times throughout the series. For anyone who says that "its just a kiddie crush", like i said. ITS A TV SHOW FOR KIDS. Romance is a major part of kiddie shows, and its going to be cliche, like it or not. Main guy and main girl hook up, they live happily ever after. Even if it were more mature, then the story line would go: he had a crush, some conflict, got over it, went out with another girl, conflict, conflict, conflict, HOOKS UP WITH ORIGINAL CRUSH BECAUSE IT WAS MEANT TO BE FROM THE START. Its gonna end cliche.

    Secondly, two and a half seasons of Kataang wont be thrown out the window. Trust me. 50+ episodes aren't going to waste because Katara and Zuko look good together. Its too much of a waste and the creators won't risk losing the majority of the viewers, i.e. kataang shippers.

    As for the Zutarian argument that Aang is too young, I don't think it matters. I'm disturbed by this point too because i an old fashioned and i like the guy to be older than the girl. Nonetheless, the world is changing and younger guy hooks up with older girl isn't much of a problem anymore. The writers, probably aware of that, adjust the story so that the plot is layed out with archetypes mixing with the ever changing morals of society. Hence, the motherly figure and the playful boy who is dependant on motherly figure. Besides, when their in their later 20's a slight age difference (never mind one of just two years), won't matter much.

    Next, for those who say that Katara doesn't love Aang, in the Headband she was jealous of Aang know name) and earlier on, when they went to the woman warrior island, she was jealous at Aangs affiliation with other girls. Although she may not have started with a romantic view of him, she definitely has some feelings now. Besides, if she doesn't love Aang, there is no chance that she should like Zuko.

    Next, for those saying that Aang is a monk, MONKS CAN BE IN RELATIONSHIPS. At least, in the Avatar world, i think all the monks are airbenders, and all airbenders are monks. If they cant be in relationships, that means that the entire monk population was created by other people. Highly unlikely, even for a small population. The creators want simplicity for comprehension, so its probably that monks can be in relationships. Furthermore, If Aang doesn't have a child, he truly is the last airbender. This means the avatar chain is broken, putting waste to ideologies such as 'Keeping the avatar alive for balance in the world'.

    Besides, zutara has nothing as biased to kataang. Katara has pity on Zuko for 5 minutes and its like their relationshp is meant to be. Sure they have a lot in common and Katara, being the girl that she is, pities Zuko. BUT, in a similar context, Katara could understand how Jet felt, and Katara could understand how Aang felt, to lose the one they loved. Katara and Aang, has a much deeper relationship than that. It slowly developed from her caring for a poor kid in an iceberg who was oblivious for the war, to a realization that he was a great guy who would never let her down.

    Finally, zutara means that everything developed thus far would come to ruins. Like i said, this is a kids show. They keep it simple, no changing everything worked on thus far at the very end so that some people could be happy. It might happen but, hell, be realistic.

    (BTW, I just got sucked into this because I looked up book 3 chp 9, BAD MISTAKE)

    Good god...Thank you for taking your time for posting that. As I said before: Did you see Katara's expressions in the Headband? I'm not sure where people come up with this "She's more of a mother to him" stuff. I'm motherly to my friends AND my boyfriend. Also considering Katara's attitude towards Zuko, she's mad at him for messing with the people that she loves. I'm like that too when my friends tell me about people who do them wrong. Katara's just the person who is very compassionate to the people she cares about. And isn't that the best kind of love?

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    himmanx wrote:

    For the love of god... Its a goddamn TV show. All the detailed explanations of "In (insert time here) she leaned in", or "In (insert time here) She blinks rapidly", are sickening. This isn't real life. Its a TV show and your all too darned addicted or sucked out of real life to get lost in fantasy world.

    However, if you ask me for my view, im a kataang guy and though im not objectionable to zutara, I find it less favorable. When i first heard of Zutara, trust me, it was random. Didn't see it coming, didn't expect it to even exist. This whole relationship seemed implausible, and not up for debate, but since it got 1000+ threads, i might as well write about it.

    The idea that Aang loves Katara is proven fact. It was repeated multiple times throughout the series. For anyone who says that "its just a kiddie crush", like i said. ITS A TV SHOW FOR KIDS. Romance is a major part of kiddie shows, and its going to be cliche, like it or not. Main guy and main girl hook up, they live happily ever after. Even if it were more mature, then the story line would go: he had a crush, some conflict, got over it, went out with another girl, conflict, conflict, conflict, HOOKS UP WITH ORIGINAL CRUSH BECAUSE IT WAS MEANT TO BE FROM THE START. Its gonna end cliche.

    Secondly, two and a half seasons of Kataang wont be thrown out the window. Trust me. 50+ episodes aren't going to waste because Katara and Zuko look good together. Its too much of a waste and the creators won't risk losing the majority of the viewers, i.e. kataang shippers.

    As for the Zutarian argument that Aang is too young, I don't think it matters. I'm disturbed by this point too because i an old fashioned and i like the guy to be older than the girl. Nonetheless, the world is changing and younger guy hooks up with older girl isn't much of a problem anymore. The writers, probably aware of that, adjust the story so that the plot is layed out with archetypes mixing with the ever changing morals of society. Hence, the motherly figure and the playful boy who is dependant on motherly figure. Besides, when their in their later 20's a slight age difference (never mind one of just two years), won't matter much.

    Next, for those who say that Katara doesn't love Aang, in the Headband she was jealous of Aang know name) and earlier on, when they went to the woman warrior island, she was jealous at Aangs affiliation with other girls. Although she may not have started with a romantic view of him, she definitely has some feelings now. Besides, if she doesn't love Aang, there is no chance that she should like Zuko.

    Next, for those saying that Aang is a monk, MONKS CAN BE IN RELATIONSHIPS. At least, in the Avatar world, i think all the monks are airbenders, and all airbenders are monks. If they cant be in relationships, that means that the entire monk population was created by other people. Highly unlikely, even for a small population. The creators want simplicity for comprehension, so its probably that monks can be in relationships. Furthermore, If Aang doesn't have a child, he truly is the last airbender. This means the avatar chain is broken, putting waste to ideologies such as 'Keeping the avatar alive for balance in the world'.

    Besides, zutara has nothing as biased to kataang. Katara has pity on Zuko for 5 minutes and its like their relationshp is meant to be. Sure they have a lot in common and Katara, being the girl that she is, pities Zuko. BUT, in a similar context, Katara could understand how Jet felt, and Katara could understand how Aang felt, to lose the one they loved. Katara and Aang, has a much deeper relationship than that. It slowly developed from her caring for a poor kid in an iceberg who was oblivious for the war, to a realization that he was a great guy who would never let her down.

    Finally, zutara means that everything developed thus far would come to ruins. Like i said, this is a kids show. They keep it simple, no changing everything worked on thus far at the very end so that some people could be happy. It might happen but, hell, be realistic.

    (BTW, I just got sucked into this because I looked up book 3 chp 9, BAD MISTAKE)

    Hey, look, its a n00b with an intelligent first post.
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    thesond1234 wrote:
    himmanx wrote:

    For the love of god... Its a goddamn TV show. All the detailed explanations of "In (insert time here) she leaned in", or "In (insert time here) She blinks rapidly", are sickening. This isn't real life. Its a TV show and your all too darned addicted or sucked out of real life to get lost in fantasy world.

    However, if you ask me for my view, im a kataang guy and though im not objectionable to zutara, I find it less favorable. When i first heard of Zutara, trust me, it was random. Didn't see it coming, didn't expect it to even exist. This whole relationship seemed implausible, and not up for debate, but since it got 1000+ threads, i might as well write about it.

    The idea that Aang loves Katara is proven fact. It was repeated multiple times throughout the series. For anyone who says that "its just a kiddie crush", like i said. ITS A TV SHOW FOR KIDS. Romance is a major part of kiddie shows, and its going to be cliche, like it or not. Main guy and main girl hook up, they live happily ever after. Even if it were more mature, then the story line would go: he had a crush, some conflict, got over it, went out with another girl, conflict, conflict, conflict, HOOKS UP WITH ORIGINAL CRUSH BECAUSE IT WAS MEANT TO BE FROM THE START. Its gonna end cliche.

    Secondly, two and a half seasons of Kataang wont be thrown out the window. Trust me. 50+ episodes aren't going to waste because Katara and Zuko look good together. Its too much of a waste and the creators won't risk losing the majority of the viewers, i.e. kataang shippers.

    As for the Zutarian argument that Aang is too young, I don't think it matters. I'm disturbed by this point too because i an old fashioned and i like the guy to be older than the girl. Nonetheless, the world is changing and younger guy hooks up with older girl isn't much of a problem anymore. The writers, probably aware of that, adjust the story so that the plot is layed out with archetypes mixing with the ever changing morals of society. Hence, the motherly figure and the playful boy who is dependant on motherly figure. Besides, when their in their later 20's a slight age difference (never mind one of just two years), won't matter much.

    Next, for those who say that Katara doesn't love Aang, in the Headband she was jealous of Aang know name) and earlier on, when they went to the woman warrior island, she was jealous at Aangs affiliation with other girls. Although she may not have started with a romantic view of him, she definitely has some feelings now. Besides, if she doesn't love Aang, there is no chance that she should like Zuko.

    Next, for those saying that Aang is a monk, MONKS CAN BE IN RELATIONSHIPS. At least, in the Avatar world, i think all the monks are airbenders, and all airbenders are monks. If they cant be in relationships, that means that the entire monk population was created by other people. Highly unlikely, even for a small population. The creators want simplicity for comprehension, so its probably that monks can be in relationships. Furthermore, If Aang doesn't have a child, he truly is the last airbender. This means the avatar chain is broken, putting waste to ideologies such as 'Keeping the avatar alive for balance in the world'.

    Besides, zutara has nothing as biased to kataang. Katara has pity on Zuko for 5 minutes and its like their relationshp is meant to be. Sure they have a lot in common and Katara, being the girl that she is, pities Zuko. BUT, in a similar context, Katara could understand how Jet felt, and Katara could understand how Aang felt, to lose the one they loved. Katara and Aang, has a much deeper relationship than that. It slowly developed from her caring for a poor kid in an iceberg who was oblivious for the war, to a realization that he was a great guy who would never let her down.

    Finally, zutara means that everything developed thus far would come to ruins. Like i said, this is a kids show. They keep it simple, no changing everything worked on thus far at the very end so that some people could be happy. It might happen but, hell, be realistic.

    (BTW, I just got sucked into this because I looked up book 3 chp 9, BAD MISTAKE)

    Hey, look, its a n00b with an intelligent first post.

    Don't be scared! Azula just dumped him. Badly.
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