Avatar: The Last Airbender: Does Katara love Aang? The Ending

WorldTyrant
[1861]Dec 8, 2007
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It remains to be seen whether or not the war would be "lost" if the Fire Lord died. If Zuko is a branded traitor along side Iroh, the only person remaining would be Azula. That's not going to stop the war.
Anyway, I'm not convinced that "losing the war" and "being against the war" are two different things. Zuko has seen what the Fire Nation has done and I think he now stands against the war because the fire nation isn't spreading "culture and prosperity" but is just out to rule the world. I think he's now, currently, against that philosophy and thus the war. If Zuko wanted the war to go on and take over the world, he would have just killed his father and usurped the throne, and then killed his sister with his new position. I'll say that this is just my opinion.
The same applies for Zuko's goodness in a sense. If he's siding with good, he is essentially siding against the war and against the fire nation's current form. If he isn't against the war, then there isn't much reason to his actions unless he's going to use the Avatar to decapitate the government (which wouldn't make any sense if he had a chance to off Ozai in the first place). And, I'm sorry to say, I don't think Zuko is much of a long term planner. If he wanted the throne to lead the war, he would have killed Ozai and taken it, not have a long plan of using the Avatar as a weapon. It's just not how he's been shown to operate.
Again, my opinion.
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Mapletree46
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he would talk to katara about katara
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hoj1
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---That's not going to stop the war---
well, that is not true. if Zuko were only against the war the he have to kill Ozai and to catch the throne of the firenation. This new situation inside of the firenation will stop the war against other nations until firenation-royals figured out who is the next firelord and the Sozins comet is over . (and btw. Zuko can use it against Azula.) After Ozais Comet is gone the Avatar will get next 100 years to defead the firenation.(even if Zuko will fail against Azula)
--And, I'm sorry to say, I don't think Zuko is much of a long term planner.--
to use the Avatar against his father and for the change of the political philosophy in own country is a very "long term plan". dont forget, Zuko was teached by Iroh.
Edited on 12/08/2007 3:16pm
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watertribe12
[1864]Dec 8, 2007
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Iroh....just like he did in the 'school time shipping' short!
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tommy2071
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You all have valid points on Zuko's situation. But what I got from his speech to his father was that he was against the war, \remember he said what he was taught about the firenation was a lie. Zuko knows the fire nation is out to rule the world and he knows that it is wrong. He says they need an era of peace and kindness. That literally means he is against the war. He doesnt want the firenation destroyed but will do everything in his power to stop his father. If it was all about the throne, then he would've killed his father, but it's not. He wants to restore peace. and he knows Its Aang's destiny to take down the fire lord. By saying he's going to join the avatar and helping him with his firebending then I believe thats how he's fulfilling his destiny to help restore balance. Zuko has always had a good heart, way down deep. Certain instances have forced it out of him. Like sparing the water tribe in the second episode. Rescuring Aang and letting him go in the Blue SPirit, The whole episode of Zuko Alone shows it. He finally realized it all in season three. He knows his destiny.
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nintendo56
[1866]Dec 8, 2007
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the writers have developed the relationship so much, why when the series is almost done throw the relationship that has developed so far into the trash can? it seems that zutarians just don't get that.
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avrurakinninami

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nintendo56 wrote:

the writers have developed the relationship so much, why when the series is almost done throw the relationship that has developed so far into the trash can? it seems that zutarians just don't get that.

But, what if Katara never felt love toward Aang ?

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Falcondude123

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WiseLad wrote:

I need a ladies perspective, her body language PRIOR to the kiss, and way she brushed her hair after she told him that he has grown so much since the first time they saw each other seems to suggest that she already sees him as a young man, not as a boy and she was nervous about what he "needed to say"(than instead of talking a lot, he kissed her)

Well I'm no lady, but if I were, I wud say, "SLAP HIM, GIRLFRIEND!!!"

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dumb_person1
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It possible that she likes him, but I think she has been more of a mother to Aang.
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cousin-chan
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This is purely my own speculation and humble opinion so don't start an argument - but the pro-Kataang "YYYYY throw awayz teh relashunshipp DEVELOPEMINT!?" argument is a weak one. Yes, I can admit that Aang's crush has developed from crush-at-first-sight to actual love. BUT, we have not seen any development of Katara's feelings for Aang, or, at least, nothing in the way she acts toward him has really changed - only the development of her role as the Gaang's mother hen. Again, my own opinion. ;D
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Mapletree46

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cousin-chan wrote:

This is purely my own speculation and humble opinion so don't start an argument - but the pro-Kataang "YYYYY throw awayz teh relashunshipp DEVELOPEMINT!?" argument is a weak one. Yes, I can admit that Aang's crush has developed from crush-at-first-sight to actual love. BUT, we have not seen any development of Katara's feelings for Aang, or, at least, nothing in the way she acts toward him has really changed - only the development of her role as the Gaang's mother hen. Again, my own opinion. ;D

we havn't seen anything like that because there was never anytime for them to talk about it, with each or with anyone at all.

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cousin-chan
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Do you mean talking about Katara's feelings? Or their relationship? Regardless, there has not been serious development, nor any acknowledgment, of her feelings (and I'm speaking of romantic feelings) like there have been for Aang, and so I am just trying to point out a flaw in that argument. The only Kataang development so far has been relatively one-sided until the writers decide to address it.
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Blizzard715
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[/QUOTE] I agree with you both, but hell, i'm rooting for Zutara. And I don't want to hear "OMG you're so crazy do u see how much evidence is AGAINST it blah blah blah", but it's what I freaking like. I've never been one for the whole the-main-guy-gets-the-girl thing. I guess i've always had a thing with the underdogs... But yeah. Maybe Katara does love him. If she does and they get together, okay. If they don't, even better. If Zutara doesnt happen? Oh well. I think I just want them to pick SOMETHING by now so everyone can stop being so crazy. This really brings back the Harry Potter Shipping days...[/QUOTE]
Harry Potter shipping days, good times, good times. I remember how I used to really like Harry/Cho, but then when the sixth book came around, I realized that Cho wasn't that great and how much better Ginny was than Cho. First of all Ginny wasn'treallya main character, it was so unexpected to me that I loved it. I've never really been into the whole main characters at first are just friends but then they start liking eachother, especially since they do it too much. So I was never into Harry/Hermoine. Glad it didn't happen either. I like more of where someone starts liking someone else at the beginning and then the other person starts to like them back, that's what I like about Katara and Aang, even though they are main characters, Aang liked her from the beginning. and as much as I like the underdog getting the girl, I really don't think of Zuko as much ofan underdog.
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MarryLarry
[1874]Dec 8, 2007
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Just to clarifiy a few things, in order for Zuko to be classified as an underdog (a person who is unlikely to win) he would have to be competing against Aang (the man expected to win) for Katara, which he is not.
In a debate, you should always make sure you are using correct terminology. That way you know what you're talking about and don't sound like a fool.
That wasn't directed at anyone specific.
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Atu_1
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Zuko is hardly an underdog except for what he brought upon himself. We know that Katara is easily attracted to boys that look like Jet, Haru, etc, and Aang has basically had to put in actual work to attract Katara because he doesn't/didn't have those luxuries (being tall, muscled, facial hair, etc).
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avrurakinninami

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Atu_1 wrote:

Zuko is hardly an underdog except for what he brought upon himself. We know that Katara is easily attracted to boys that look like Jet, Haru, etc, and Aang has basically had to put in actual work to attract Katara because he doesn't/didn't have those luxuries (being tall, muscled, facial hair, etc).

I dont think she's so superficial

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tommy2071

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avrurakinninami wrote:

nintendo56 wrote:

But, what if Katara never felt love toward Aang ?

Just because you dontnotice it, doesnt mean no one else has either. There are alot of people who see it.

cousin-chan wrote:

Do you mean talking about Katara's feelings? Or their relationship? Regardless, there has not been serious development, nor any acknowledgment, of her feelings (and I'm speaking of romantic feelings) like there have been for Aang, and so I am just trying to point out a flaw in that argument. The only Kataang development so far has been relatively one-sided until the writers decide to address it.

Season three has been developing it more as in the headband, DOBS there was some in season 2 as well. You have to look at everything not just bits and pieces.

Atu_1 wrote:

You're right, but Zutarians dont understand it. She has been seeing him in a new light!

nintendo56 wrote:

I've been saying that since day one. Zutarians fail to notice it. Or just too blind.

avrurakinninami wrote:

Atu_1 wrote:

I dont think she's so superficial

So its wrong that Aang has had to work for Katara's affections?

Edited on 12/08/2007 9:35pm

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avrurakinninami

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tommy2071 wrote:

avrurakinninami wrote:

nintendo56 wrote:

But, what if Katara never felt love toward Aang ?

Just because you dontnotice it, doesnt mean no one else has either. There are alot of people who see it.

cousin-chan wrote:

Season three has been developing it more as in the headband, DOBS there was some in season 2 as well. You have to look at everything not just bits and pieces.

Atu_1 wrote:

You're right, but Zutarians dont understand it. She has been seeing him in a new light!

nintendo56 wrote:

I've been saying that since day one. Zutarians fail to notice it. Or just too blind.

Tell me where she explicitly show her love to him ? Dont tell me the kiss in DOBS, its more confused than explicit.

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Atu_1

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avrurakinninami wrote:

tommy2071 wrote:

avrurakinninami wrote:

nintendo56 wrote:

But, what if Katara never felt love toward Aang ?

Just because you dontnotice it, doesnt mean no one else has either. There are alot of people who see it.

cousin-chan wrote:

Season three has been developing it more as in the headband, DOBS there was some in season 2 as well. You have to look at everything not just bits and pieces.

Atu_1 wrote:

You're right, but Zutarians dont understand it. She has been seeing him in a new light!

nintendo56 wrote:

I've been saying that since day one. Zutarians fail to notice it. Or just too blind.

Tell me where she explicitly show her love to him ? Dont tell me the kiss in DOBS, its more confused than explicit.

he didn't say that. he just agreed with me. Katara possibly did have a superficial thing then, but not now.

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Nakkie34

[1880]Dec 9, 2007

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Atu_1 wrote:

avrurakinninami wrote:

tommy2071 wrote:

avrurakinninami wrote:

nintendo56 wrote:

But, what if Katara never felt love toward Aang ?

Just because you dontnotice it, doesnt mean no one else has either. There are alot of people who see it.

cousin-chan wrote:

Season three has been developing it more as in the headband, DOBS there was some in season 2 as well. You have to look at everything not just bits and pieces.

Atu_1 wrote:

You're right, but Zutarians dont understand it. She has been seeing him in a new light!

nintendo56 wrote:

I've been saying that since day one. Zutarians fail to notice it. Or just too blind.

Tell me where she explicitly show her love to him ? Dont tell me the kiss in DOBS, its more confused than explicit.

he didn't say that. he just agreed with me. Katara possibly did have a superficial thing then, but not now.

yep all the huggies, blushies and stuff.

But now its different

( and were still on topic WHEEEE )

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