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Does Katara love Aang? The Ending

After seeing the new trailer, wich ship ( you think ) will happen?

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    Avaang18

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    da2021011995 wrote:
    udkdapatsrool wrote:
    katara likes aang period. I don't think it's much more complicated than that. and zuko likes mai so even if katara likes him (and lets be serious here) he won't like her
    DOn't count on it

    LOL! "Don't count on it"

    You poor Zutarians, you just have no idea..... these last nine episodes are going to be terrible for all of you

    Edited on 11/15/2007 7:21am
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    Atu_1

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    Avaang18 wrote:

    da2021011995 wrote:
    udkdapatsrool wrote:
    katara likes aang period. I don't think it's much more complicated than that. and zuko likes mai so even if katara likes him (and lets be serious here) he won't like her
    DOn't count on it

    LOL! "Don't count on it"

    You poor Zutarian, you just have no idea...

    Ok, we can stay with our ship, even make sarcastic comments about a statement, but don't directly insult the person because s/he wants a ship to happen.
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    LeonMorado

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    JonathonWolf wrote:
    I've said it in a different thread. Most likely, Aang hasn't admitted his feelings until now because he feels unworthy of love for failing his duties as the Avatar twice now. Katara probably feels unworthy for being a peasant in love with the Avatar. It's been obvious Aang has had a crush on Katara since episode 1. Likely, she didn't start thinking about it until "The Fortuneteller."

    I just don't get the feeling that Katara would have kissed him back if she didn't have feelings like that. If she did just think of his as a friend or brother, we would have seen her look guilty at some point after that for leading him on. I think we can all agree that no matter what kind of love she has for him, she would be guilty for hurting him in any way. And she knows that will hurt him more than anything else she could ever do.

    As for why they never admitted their feelings before, that's how teenagers in love are. We're talking about two people that have very little romantic experience. The only guy Katara's age was Sokka until they left home. Aang lived in a monastery with a lot of other boys. Though it isn't conclusive proof, Aang has never talked about having had female friends. Both have feared that the other doesn't feel for them like they do, but they also fear they keep losing chances for something more. Aang probably came up with the idea because of his hallucination. Both seemed to have had the same intention in that scene: admit how they feel because tomorrow might be too late. The situation reached a point where there was something far worse than being rejected. And for two inexperienced teens, rejection can be one of the scariest things imagined.
    i still maintain that she didn't kiss him back. i watched the invasion again and she moves her head back first, aang has to stand on his toes to kiss her, so when he drops back down to his feet she simply tilts her head town slightly because he's short. she never moves forward.
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    JonathonWolf

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    LeonMorado wrote:
    JonathonWolf wrote:
    I've said it in a different thread. Most likely, Aang hasn't admitted his feelings until now because he feels unworthy of love for failing his duties as the Avatar twice now. Katara probably feels unworthy for being a peasant in love with the Avatar. It's been obvious Aang has had a crush on Katara since episode 1. Likely, she didn't start thinking about it until "The Fortuneteller." I just don't get the feeling that Katara would have kissed him back if she didn't have feelings like that. If she did just think of his as a friend or brother, we would have seen her look guilty at some point after that for leading him on. I think we can all agree that no matter what kind of love she has for him, she would be guilty for hurting him in any way. And she knows that will hurt him more than anything else she could ever do. As for why they never admitted their feelings before, that's how teenagers in love are. We're talking about two people that have very little romantic experience. The only guy Katara's age was Sokka until they left home. Aang lived in a monastery with a lot of other boys. Though it isn't conclusive proof, Aang has never talked about having had female friends. Both have feared that the other doesn't feel for them like they do, but they also fear they keep losing chances for something more. Aang probably came up with the idea because of his hallucination. Both seemed to have had the same intention in that scene: admit how they feel because tomorrow might be too late. The situation reached a point where there was something far worse than being rejected. And for two inexperienced teens, rejection can be one of the scariest things imagined.
    i still maintain that she didn't kiss him back. i watched the invasion again and she moves her head back first, aang has to stand on his toes to kiss her, so when he drops back down to his feet she simply tilts her head town slightly because he's short. she never moves forward.

    A commendable rebuttal. I shall counter with the hooded appearance of her eyes when she first begins her speech. It can be viewed as her love for him as she conveys the emotions of her words. A weak argument, I'll admit early. I'll further it with that her eyes remain closed after the kiss finishes, suggesting that she was enjoying the kiss. Another argument for her expression is her regret that this is how they finally admit their feelings instead of any of the opportunities before when things weren't so dire. Regret of all the time wasted that they could have been closer. Or regret that she didn't think of it first or get the chance to say in words what the kiss told. She watches him leave. That's usually a good sign things went well on a date. If the departing person doesn't look back, or if the non-departing person immediately goes inside, these are signs of a bad date. It's a part of human nature to take one last look. Perhaps she wished Aang would look back one more time, but she also understood he may lose his resolve if he did. It's part of why he immediately left after kissing her.

    You do bring up good points that cast a shadow on the interpretation, but I remain as resolute that she did kiss back as you remain in your resolve of the opposite.

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    JonathonWolf wrote:

    LeonMorado wrote:
    JonathonWolf wrote:
    I've said it in a different thread. Most likely, Aang hasn't admitted his feelings until now because he feels unworthy of love for failing his duties as the Avatar twice now. Katara probably feels unworthy for being a peasant in love with the Avatar. It's been obvious Aang has had a crush on Katara since episode 1. Likely, she didn't start thinking about it until "The Fortuneteller." I just don't get the feeling that Katara would have kissed him back if she didn't have feelings like that. If she did just think of his as a friend or brother, we would have seen her look guilty at some point after that for leading him on. I think we can all agree that no matter what kind of love she has for him, she would be guilty for hurting him in any way. And she knows that will hurt him more than anything else she could ever do. As for why they never admitted their feelings before, that's how teenagers in love are. We're talking about two people that have very little romantic experience. The only guy Katara's age was Sokka until they left home. Aang lived in a monastery with a lot of other boys. Though it isn't conclusive proof, Aang has never talked about having had female friends. Both have feared that the other doesn't feel for them like they do, but they also fear they keep losing chances for something more. Aang probably came up with the idea because of his hallucination. Both seemed to have had the same intention in that scene: admit how they feel because tomorrow might be too late. The situation reached a point where there was something far worse than being rejected. And for two inexperienced teens, rejection can be one of the scariest things imagined.
    i still maintain that she didn't kiss him back. i watched the invasion again and she moves her head back first, aang has to stand on his toes to kiss her, so when he drops back down to his feet she simply tilts her head town slightly because he's short. she never moves forward.

    A commendable rebuttal. I shall counter with the hooded appearance of her eyes when she first begins her speech. It can be viewed as her love for him as she conveys the emotions of her words. A weak argument, I'll admit early. I'll further it with that her eyes remain closed after the kiss finishes, suggesting that she was enjoying the kiss. Another argument for her expression is her regret that this is how they finally admit their feelings instead of any of the opportunities before when things weren't so dire. Regret of all the time wasted that they could have been closer. Or regret that she didn't think of it first or get the chance to say in words what the kiss told. She watches him leave. That's usually a good sign things went well on a date. If the departing person doesn't look back, or if the non-departing person immediately goes inside, these are signs of a bad date. It's a part of human nature to take one last look. Perhaps she wished Aang would look back one more time, but she also understood he may lose his resolve if he did. It's part of why he immediately left after kissing her.

    You do bring up good points that cast a shadow on the interpretation, but I remain as resolute that she did kiss back as you remain in your resolve of the opposite.

    Great. Also, in between the point where Aang gets back on his feet during the kiss, Katara could've easily kept stationary and not went down with him.
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    Atu_1 wrote:
    JonathonWolf wrote:

    LeonMorado wrote:
    JonathonWolf wrote:
    I've said it in a different thread. Most likely, Aang hasn't admitted his feelings until now because he feels unworthy of love for failing his duties as the Avatar twice now. Katara probably feels unworthy for being a peasant in love with the Avatar. It's been obvious Aang has had a crush on Katara since episode 1. Likely, she didn't start thinking about it until "The Fortuneteller." I just don't get the feeling that Katara would have kissed him back if she didn't have feelings like that. If she did just think of his as a friend or brother, we would have seen her look guilty at some point after that for leading him on. I think we can all agree that no matter what kind of love she has for him, she would be guilty for hurting him in any way. And she knows that will hurt him more than anything else she could ever do. As for why they never admitted their feelings before, that's how teenagers in love are. We're talking about two people that have very little romantic experience. The only guy Katara's age was Sokka until they left home. Aang lived in a monastery with a lot of other boys. Though it isn't conclusive proof, Aang has never talked about having had female friends. Both have feared that the other doesn't feel for them like they do, but they also fear they keep losing chances for something more. Aang probably came up with the idea because of his hallucination. Both seemed to have had the same intention in that scene: admit how they feel because tomorrow might be too late. The situation reached a point where there was something far worse than being rejected. And for two inexperienced teens, rejection can be one of the scariest things imagined.
    i still maintain that she didn't kiss him back. i watched the invasion again and she moves her head back first, aang has to stand on his toes to kiss her, so when he drops back down to his feet she simply tilts her head town slightly because he's short. she never moves forward.

    A commendable rebuttal. I shall counter with the hooded appearance of her eyes when she first begins her speech. It can be viewed as her love for him as she conveys the emotions of her words. A weak argument, I'll admit early. I'll further it with that her eyes remain closed after the kiss finishes, suggesting that she was enjoying the kiss. Another argument for her expression is her regret that this is how they finally admit their feelings instead of any of the opportunities before when things weren't so dire. Regret of all the time wasted that they could have been closer. Or regret that she didn't think of it first or get the chance to say in words what the kiss told. She watches him leave. That's usually a good sign things went well on a date. If the departing person doesn't look back, or if the non-departing person immediately goes inside, these are signs of a bad date. It's a part of human nature to take one last look. Perhaps she wished Aang would look back one more time, but she also understood he may lose his resolve if he did. It's part of why he immediately left after kissing her.

    You do bring up good points that cast a shadow on the interpretation, but I remain as resolute that she did kiss back as you remain in your resolve of the opposite.

    Great. Also, in between the point where Aang gets back on his feet during the kiss, Katara could've easily kept stationary and not went down with him.


    I'd have to argue that Katara was trying to keep the kiss going. It's hard to tell with the cut, but it almost looks like she shifts positions when he drops back on his feet. Makes it ambiguous. I do notice that her visible arm goes from tense to relaxed as she gets over the initial surprise. Suggestive of mutual interest.
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    i don't think she was expecting him to kiss her and was kind of shocked plus it didn't help that he flew off and remember when sokka called out to her she was like huh what o yeah so yes i think she has feelings for him
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    JonathonWolf wrote:
    Atu_1 wrote:
    JonathonWolf wrote:

    LeonMorado wrote:
    JonathonWolf wrote:
    I've said it in a different thread. Most likely, Aang hasn't admitted his feelings until now because he feels unworthy of love for failing his duties as the Avatar twice now. Katara probably feels unworthy for being a peasant in love with the Avatar. It's been obvious Aang has had a crush on Katara since episode 1. Likely, she didn't start thinking about it until "The Fortuneteller." I just don't get the feeling that Katara would have kissed him back if she didn't have feelings like that. If she did just think of his as a friend or brother, we would have seen her look guilty at some point after that for leading him on. I think we can all agree that no matter what kind of love she has for him, she would be guilty for hurting him in any way. And she knows that will hurt him more than anything else she could ever do. As for why they never admitted their feelings before, that's how teenagers in love are. We're talking about two people that have very little romantic experience. The only guy Katara's age was Sokka until they left home. Aang lived in a monastery with a lot of other boys. Though it isn't conclusive proof, Aang has never talked about having had female friends. Both have feared that the other doesn't feel for them like they do, but they also fear they keep losing chances for something more. Aang probably came up with the idea because of his hallucination. Both seemed to have had the same intention in that scene: admit how they feel because tomorrow might be too late. The situation reached a point where there was something far worse than being rejected. And for two inexperienced teens, rejection can be one of the scariest things imagined.
    i still maintain that she didn't kiss him back. i watched the invasion again and she moves her head back first, aang has to stand on his toes to kiss her, so when he drops back down to his feet she simply tilts her head town slightly because he's short. she never moves forward.

    A commendable rebuttal. I shall counter with the hooded appearance of her eyes when she first begins her speech. It can be viewed as her love for him as she conveys the emotions of her words. A weak argument, I'll admit early. I'll further it with that her eyes remain closed after the kiss finishes, suggesting that she was enjoying the kiss. Another argument for her expression is her regret that this is how they finally admit their feelings instead of any of the opportunities before when things weren't so dire. Regret of all the time wasted that they could have been closer. Or regret that she didn't think of it first or get the chance to say in words what the kiss told. She watches him leave. That's usually a good sign things went well on a date. If the departing person doesn't look back, or if the non-departing person immediately goes inside, these are signs of a bad date. It's a part of human nature to take one last look. Perhaps she wished Aang would look back one more time, but she also understood he may lose his resolve if he did. It's part of why he immediately left after kissing her.

    You do bring up good points that cast a shadow on the interpretation, but I remain as resolute that she did kiss back as you remain in your resolve of the opposite.

    Great. Also, in between the point where Aang gets back on his feet during the kiss, Katara could've easily kept stationary and not went down with him.


    I'd have to argue that Katara was trying to keep the kiss going. It's hard to tell with the cut, but it almost looks like she shifts positions when he drops back on his feet. Makes it ambiguous. I do notice that her visible arm goes from tense to relaxed as she gets over the initial surprise. Suggestive of mutual interest.
    It was probably like "WHAT THE...?! HE'S KISSING ME! HE'S KISSING ME! He's... kissing... me..." I could see that thought pattern possibly going through her head.
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    And I'd have to say it strongly suggests mutual interest. It's going to be interesting seeing how it plays through.
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    da2021011995

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    Avaang18 wrote:

    da2021011995 wrote:
    udkdapatsrool wrote:
    katara likes aang period. I don't think it's much more complicated than that. and zuko likes mai so even if katara likes him (and lets be serious here) he won't like her
    DOn't count on it

    LOL! "Don't count on it"

    You poor Zutarians, you just have no idea..... these last nine episodes are going to be terrible for all of you



    Flamer. Yes you are a flamer. You offend me and others. You are the type of person i HATE to debate with.
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    merdok2005

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    If we made a thread for every Kataang moment there was we would have a full forum. Zutaraians make a full forum for A Kataang moment that had nothing to do with zuko and that went to our advantage. Someone tell me, this wouldn't be different if that was Zuko and Katara kissing. For some people it's not a matter of facts.
    Edited on 11/15/2007 1:56pm
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    merdok2005 wrote:
    If we made a thread for every Kataang moment there was we would have a full forum. Zutaraians make a full forum for A Kataang moment that had nothing to do with zuko and that went to our advantage. Someone tell, this would be different if that was Zuko and Katara kissing. For some people it's not a matter of facts.
    FINALY someone with some sense!
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    da2021011995

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    merdok2005 wrote:
    If we made a thread for every Kataang moment there was we would have a full forum. Zutaraians make a full forum for A Kataang moment that had nothing to do with zuko and that went to our advantage. Someone tell me, this wouldn't be different if that was Zuko and Katara kissing. For some people it's not a matter of facts.


    It wouldn't be diffrent. You guys would be bashing and saying what we say about this kiss, and we would say the same things you people had said. And no it isn't a matter of facts when you can look for theories.
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    da2021011995 wrote:
    merdok2005 wrote:
    If we made a thread for every Kataang moment there was we would have a full forum. Zutaraians make a full forum for A Kataang moment that had nothing to do with zuko and that went to our advantage. Someone tell me, this wouldn't be different if that was Zuko and Katara kissing. For some people it's not a matter of facts.


    It wouldn't be diffrent. You guys would be bashing and saying what we say about this kiss, and we would say the same things you people had said. And no it isn't a matter of facts when you can look for theories.

    actualy... this mythilogical day "when zutara happens"... i would be whining, sad, and not saying : oh, they don't like eachother, it was a fredly kiss, this is a kataang moment, blah blah blah. this is the way you zutarians are, it is your nature. don't wory, its perfectly normal.... for zuko.... im just saying kataangers would't react the way you zutarians are, only because you guys are in denial.
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    da2021011995

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    lucshu1231 wrote:
    da2021011995 wrote:
    merdok2005 wrote:
    If we made a thread for every Kataang moment there was we would have a full forum. Zutaraians make a full forum for A Kataang moment that had nothing to do with zuko and that went to our advantage. Someone tell me, this wouldn't be different if that was Zuko and Katara kissing. For some people it's not a matter of facts.


    It wouldn't be diffrent. You guys would be bashing and saying what we say about this kiss, and we would say the same things you people had said. And no it isn't a matter of facts when you can look for theories.

    actualy... this mythilogical day "when zutara happens"... i would be whining, sad, and not saying : oh, they don't like eachother, it was a fredly kiss, this is a kataang moment, blah blah blah. this is the way you zutarians are, it is your nature. don't wory, its perfectly normal.... for zuko.... im just saying kataangers would't react the way you zutarians are, only because you guys are in denial.


    WE aren't, its because of how Katara looks. WE aren't in denial. We love our ship and aren't going to give up (I won't till the end of the series thats for sure) but the reason we are in so called 'denial' is because of Kat's expression
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    merdok2005

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    lord have mercy, how many times do I have to sayit? Aang was going off to do something very dangerous he could have easily been killed. he said so himself "What if I don't come" wouldn't you be sad if someone kissed you then went off maybe to their death?

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    Atu_1

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    If not for Katara's look things would be way too easy with little to no complication. Just because Katara had an expression doesn't mean Zutara is going to happen.
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    da2021011995

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    Atu_1 wrote:
    If not for Katara's look things would be way too easy with little to no complication. Just because Katara had an expression doesn't mean Zutara is going to happen.


    I never said that though, I mean the debating is about her expression.
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    Atu_1

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    da2021011995 wrote:
    Atu_1 wrote:
    If not for Katara's look things would be way too easy with little to no complication. Just because Katara had an expression doesn't mean Zutara is going to happen.


    I never said that though, I mean the debating is about her expression.
    true. others have though.
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    Atu_1 wrote:
    da2021011995 wrote:
    Atu_1 wrote:
    If not for Katara's look things would be way too easy with little to no complication. Just because Katara had an expression doesn't mean Zutara is going to happen.


    I never said that though, I mean the debating is about her expression.
    true. others have though.


    zutarian

    "her expression is PROOF that she doesn't love Aang, now with Zuko joining, there is a great chance Zutara will happen, much higher than Kataang"

    a doubter(but not zutarian)or even a reasonable kataangian, maybe even some realistic Zutarians who know how usually writers work in their writings

    "her reaction could be read many different ways, it doesn't put as definitive proof that she loves Aang, but it still can mean in later episodes that it was the moment where she realizes she loves him; Zutara can still have a chance, but chances as of right now are in favor of KatAang"

    a crazed kataangian

    "this is the coffin in the nail, it proves katara's love; now there is not even a remote chance for Zutara"
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