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    Misaru000

    [461]Nov 3, 2007
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    I have to admit from the beginning Katara had been my least favorite character, but now, ever since season three had aired I can understand how she is a teenage girl (as am I) and we go through changes and emotional outbursts, but there is a time when it just goes too far. She is the only character who pities herself (other then Zuko), so many other characters have had it so much worse, Aang never met his parents, Toph is blind and has been sheltered and kept away from society all her life, heck Sokka lost his mother and father just as Katara did. Not to mention how Sokka always seems to get the short stick, no character ever seems to complain. Also all of characters personality traits seem to lead to perfection. Especially since she has this new skimpy outfit, and almost every episode so far in season three she gets skimpier. She has become officially a Mary Sue. No question about it. Every other character beside her has flaws they can still work on, the creators just make Katara more perfect by the episode and give her a large role.

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    foamingmonkey

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    I agree, Misaru. Not to mention, just about every single episode in season three has focused on just how awesome Katara is. In fact, about half of all the episodes aired so far have been solely dedicated to Katara and her ever developing skills, and her ever wonderful personality that is completely righteous, determined, kind, compassionate et cetera, et cetera. Even Toph's episode, where she's finally brought to the foreground again, ends with Katara saving the day.

    Like the new episode Puppet Master (stop here if you haven't seen it). Katara now has another super special skill to add to her arsenal. First it was terrific bending despite limited training with a master, the healing abilities that will only get better in the future, and now blood bending. Also, she's better than a master who was likely training before she was even born. She didn't need to practice even bending the water out of trees and plants before instantly excelling, and she didn't need to practice blood bending before turning it against a pro.

    Don't forget: Katara is the hero in the end. The AVATAR gets tossed around like a rag doll and Toph is a little too late; shouldn't even bother counting Sokka, it's obvious the writers don't even consider him a contender any more.

    Still, I watch for the great animation, interesting storyline and creativite setting, but Katara really spoils the view.

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    EvilTwin77

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    foamingmonkey wrote:
    I agree, Misaru. Not to mention, just about every single episode in season three has focused on just how awesome Katara is. In fact, about half of all the episodes aired so far have been solely dedicated to Katara and her ever developing skills, and her ever wonderful personality that is completely righteous, determined, kind, compassionate et cetera, et cetera. Even Toph's episode, where she's finally brought to the foreground again, ends with Katara saving the day.

    Like the new episode Puppet Master (stop here if you haven't seen it). Katara now has another super special skill to add to her arsenal. First it was terrific bending despite limited training with a master, the healing abilities that will only get better in the future, and now blood bending. Also, she's better than a master who was likely training before she was even born. She didn't need to practice even bending the water out of trees and plants before instantly excelling, and she didn't need to practice blood bending before turning it against a pro.

    Don't forget: Katara is the hero in the end. The AVATAR gets tossed around like a rag doll and Toph is a little too late; shouldn't even bother counting Sokka, it's obvious the writers don't even consider him a contender any more.

    Still, I watch for the great animation, interesting storyline and creativite setting, but Katara really spoils the view.

    "I will never ever turn my back on people who need me." I almost threw up in my mouth when I watched that episode.
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    StrongGaia

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    EvilTwin77 wrote:
    foamingmonkey wrote:
    I agree, Misaru. Not to mention, just about every single episode in season three has focused on just how awesome Katara is. In fact, about half of all the episodes aired so far have been solely dedicated to Katara and her ever developing skills, and her ever wonderful personality that is completely righteous, determined, kind, compassionate et cetera, et cetera. Even Toph's episode, where she's finally brought to the foreground again, ends with Katara saving the day.

    Like the new episode Puppet Master (stop here if you haven't seen it). Katara now has another super special skill to add to her arsenal. First it was terrific bending despite limited training with a master, the healing abilities that will only get better in the future, and now blood bending. Also, she's better than a master who was likely training before she was even born. She didn't need to practice even bending the water out of trees and plants before instantly excelling, and she didn't need to practice blood bending before turning it against a pro.

    Don't forget: Katara is the hero in the end. The AVATAR gets tossed around like a rag doll and Toph is a little too late; shouldn't even bother counting Sokka, it's obvious the writers don't even consider him a contender any more.

    Still, I watch for the great animation, interesting storyline and creativite setting, but Katara really spoils the view.

    "I will never ever turn my back on people who need me." I almost threw up in my mouth when I watched that episode.

    Here Here!

    Sometimes I like her, most of the time I don't. Some of the things she does really annoys me, like in The Runaway. "I like fun! *puts Momo on her head* See, fun!"

    What kind of idiot does that? Even she must know that putting things on your head does not make you fun. When I saw that I just shook my head and thought "SOOO sad..."

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    djdfire

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    StrongGaia wrote:
    EvilTwin77 wrote:
    foamingmonkey wrote:
    I agree, Misaru. Not to mention, just about every single episode in season three has focused on just how awesome Katara is. In fact, about half of all the episodes aired so far have been solely dedicated to Katara and her ever developing skills, and her ever wonderful personality that is completely righteous, determined, kind, compassionate et cetera, et cetera. Even Toph's episode, where she's finally brought to the foreground again, ends with Katara saving the day.

    Like the new episode Puppet Master (stop here if you haven't seen it). Katara now has another super special skill to add to her arsenal. First it was terrific bending despite limited training with a master, the healing abilities that will only get better in the future, and now blood bending. Also, she's better than a master who was likely training before she was even born. She didn't need to practice even bending the water out of trees and plants before instantly excelling, and she didn't need to practice blood bending before turning it against a pro.

    Don't forget: Katara is the hero in the end. The AVATAR gets tossed around like a rag doll and Toph is a little too late; shouldn't even bother counting Sokka, it's obvious the writers don't even consider him a contender any more.

    Still, I watch for the great animation, interesting storyline and creativite setting, but Katara really spoils the view.

    "I will never ever turn my back on people who need me." I almost threw up in my mouth when I watched that episode.

    Here Here!

    Sometimes I like her, most of the time I don't. Some of the things she does really annoys me, like in The Runaway. "I like fun! *puts Momo on her head* See, fun!"

    What kind of idiot does that? Even she must know that putting things on your head does not make you fun. When I saw that I just shook my head and thought "SOOO sad..."

    I think that Katara forgot what fun is since she had to grow up and take on huge responsiblity at a young age.
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    foamingmonkey

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    djdfire wrote:
    I think that Katara forgot what fun is since she had to grow up and take on huge responsiblity at a young age.

    Yeah, but again, it's not like she's the only one who's gone through hard times or had responsibilities; she's just the only one who whines about it. Sokka was faced with responsibility at a young age, too. His father left when he was rather young (maybe about ten or eleven?), leaving him to be one of the last defenders of the entire tribe, and Sokka was left to train the children of the tribe how to battle.

    I don't really know WHY they left their entire village unprotected when they knew the Fire Nation liked to come down and kick them around every so often, or why they didn't just relocate to where the Fire Nation might not find them for a while, but it doesn't matter. Sokka was left with the burden of protecting his homeland, knowing that if the Fire Nation ever came back, he would be their last defense; he would have to fight back an entire army, and if he failed, everyone and everything he knows would perish.

    To me, that's a lot harder to deal with than just caring for the family. This is about defending your entire tribe; many families depending on whether or not you are strong enough to protect them when the time comes to fight to the end. But Sokka still knows what fun is.

    What about Aang? At a young age, he was also dealt a heavy blow; he's the AVATAR. He has the entire weight of the WORLD on his shoulders. You can argue whether or not he understands the gravity of the situation, but I think Azula "zapped" some sense into him to see what's at stake. He still makes time to have fun.

    Willing to argue that she doesn't have fun because she's had a great loss? Well, Sokka shares her loss, plus he's lost a girl he loved, Yue. Aang has lost his entire nation; everyone and everything he knew is gone. Toph never really had anything, no friends to speak of and what appears to be an emotionally distant family. You'd think this would be more emotionally crippling than having several loved ones and then losing one of them, because at least Katara still had her grandmother and brother who cared. Toph has hardly ever been shown true affection from her parents or friends. But she still has fun.

    We're supposed to feel sympathy for Katara, because she's never known any fun; she's a surrogate mother to her family and she's never been able to be a kid. It's so sad how she's had responsibilties and losses. Well, so has everyone else in the Aang-Gang, and they don't seem to be hurting for fun. Why are we supposed to feel sympathy again?

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    foamingmonkey wrote:

    djdfire wrote:
    I think that Katara forgot what fun is since she had to grow up and take on huge responsiblity at a young age.

    Yeah, but again, it's not like she's the only one who's gone through hard times or had responsibilities; she's just the only one who whines about it. Sokka was faced with responsibility at a young age, too. His father left when he was rather young (maybe about ten or eleven?), leaving him to be one of the last defenders of the entire tribe, and Sokka was left to train the children of the tribe how to battle.

    I don't really know WHY they left their entire village unprotected when they knew the Fire Nation liked to come down and kick them around every so often, or why they didn't just relocate to where the Fire Nation might not find them for a while, but it doesn't matter. Sokka was left with the burden of protecting his homeland, knowing that if the Fire Nation ever came back, he would be their last defense; he would have to fight back an entire army, and if he failed, everyone and everything he knows would perish.

    To me, that's a lot harder to deal with than just caring for the family. This is about defending your entire tribe; many families depending on whether or not you are strong enough to protect them when the time comes to fight to the end. But Sokka still knows what fun is.

    What about Aang? At a young age, he was also dealt a heavy blow; he's the AVATAR. He has the entire weight of the WORLD on his shoulders. You can argue whether or not he understands the gravity of the situation, but I think Azula "zapped" some sense into him to see what's at stake. He still makes time to have fun.

    Willing to argue that she doesn't have fun because she's had a great loss? Well, Sokka shares her loss, plus he's lost a girl he loved, Yue. Aang has lost his entire nation; everyone and everything he knew is gone. Toph never really had anything, no friends to speak of and what appears to be an emotionally distant family. You'd think this would be more emotionally crippling than having several loved ones and then losing one of them, because at least Katara still had her grandmother and brother who cared. Toph has hardly ever been shown true affection from her parents or friends. But she still has fun.

    We're supposed to feel sympathy for Katara, because she's never known any fun; she's a surrogate mother to her family and she's never been able to be a kid. It's so sad how she's had responsibilties and losses. Well, so has everyone else in the Aang-Gang, and they don't seem to be hurting for fun. Why are we supposed to feel sympathy again?



    I agree with you, but not everyone deals with pressure and with loss the same way though. She could just be emotionally weaker than all the others.
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    djdfire

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    StrongGaia wrote:
    foamingmonkey wrote:

    djdfire wrote:
    I think that Katara forgot what fun is since she had to grow up and take on huge responsiblity at a young age.

    Yeah, but again, it's not like she's the only one who's gone through hard times or had responsibilities; she's just the only one who whines about it. Sokka was faced with responsibility at a young age, too. His father left when he was rather young (maybe about ten or eleven?), leaving him to be one of the last defenders of the entire tribe, and Sokka was left to train the children of the tribe how to battle.

    I don't really know WHY they left their entire village unprotected when they knew the Fire Nation liked to come down and kick them around every so often, or why they didn't just relocate to where the Fire Nation might not find them for a while, but it doesn't matter. Sokka was left with the burden of protecting his homeland, knowing that if the Fire Nation ever came back, he would be their last defense; he would have to fight back an entire army, and if he failed, everyone and everything he knows would perish.

    To me, that's a lot harder to deal with than just caring for the family. This is about defending your entire tribe; many families depending on whether or not you are strong enough to protect them when the time comes to fight to the end. But Sokka still knows what fun is.

    What about Aang? At a young age, he was also dealt a heavy blow; he's the AVATAR. He has the entire weight of the WORLD on his shoulders. You can argue whether or not he understands the gravity of the situation, but I think Azula "zapped" some sense into him to see what's at stake. He still makes time to have fun.

    Willing to argue that she doesn't have fun because she's had a great loss? Well, Sokka shares her loss, plus he's lost a girl he loved, Yue. Aang has lost his entire nation; everyone and everything he knew is gone. Toph never really had anything, no friends to speak of and what appears to be an emotionally distant family. You'd think this would be more emotionally crippling than having several loved ones and then losing one of them, because at least Katara still had her grandmother and brother who cared. Toph has hardly ever been shown true affection from her parents or friends. But she still has fun.

    We're supposed to feel sympathy for Katara, because she's never known any fun; she's a surrogate mother to her family and she's never been able to be a kid. It's so sad how she's had responsibilties and losses. Well, so has everyone else in the Aang-Gang, and they don't seem to be hurting for fun. Why are we supposed to feel sympathy again?



    I agree with you, but not everyone deals with pressure and with loss the same way though. She could just be emotionally weaker than all the others.
    I agree with the fact that everyone deals with pressure. After asking my mom (wha has a degree in psychology), she told me that some people who have had a major loss at an early age and had to take on a huge responsibility may turn out to become overly motherly/fatherly and may not know how to fave fun anymore or remember how to have fun. Now, I'm not knocking down what Sokka had to endure with his losses but I think he is more emotionally stronger than his sister. Why? Because as being the not only the older sibling but being the only man and having to protect his village, he may have taught himself to deal with loss better because as a warrior you may have to deal with many losses and though you may be emotionally close to them, you know that you have to be strong for the rest of the people. Though he wasn't in battle at the time, he still had that mindset of a warrior that Katara didn't have. I think Aang is also more emotionally strong than Katara because he wasn't given that huge reponsibility at such a young as Katara. Though his nation is gone and everything he knew was gone as well and the fact that he faces the a very huge responsibility now, he knows that has friends who love him and care for him and who are willing to help him, which tends to help ease their nerves and keeps Aang from going all overprotective and willing to have fun because he knows now, in the midst of all this craziness that he's not alone. Though I think that he's not fully over the fact that the Air Nomads were completely wiped out, I think that because of the love that Sokka, Katara, and Toph have shown him, he is able to cope with it better.

    Toph is also like Sokka and Aang on the emotionally stronger part but I think the reason she that way because she used the thrill of danger and excitement to counter her distant relationship with her parents. Because she was so distant parents, I think that she never really knew what it was like to have someone who really cared for your well-being.



    Now, I'm not saying that Katara's overly motherly actions are right but they are justifiable. Also, comparing her emotional strength to that of the other characters, who clearly are either emotionally stronger or more emotionally stronger than she is, is not going to help. Also it makes the show intereting to see how the characters deal with their emotions. That make it more realistic and gives the characters a more personal look. So I say that the motherly Katara stays, but they tune it down a bit and have her character develop into someone who is responsible but still likes to have fun.
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    KILL THEBi@tch jking kataras ok, but when she starts nagging i think"comon Sokka use that sword for somthing other than comic releaf"
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    louzer900

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    shes startijng 2 get annoying.
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    avataraang4

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    i like katara but she can be stubborn
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    ShadowPhoenix3

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    She is ok sometimes annoying.
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    i knew it! i knew one existed! a thread from 2005! i knew there would be one! look at the first post.
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    tomtitan wrote:
    i knew it! i knew one existed! a thread from 2005! i knew there would be one! look at the first post.
    OMG 2005!
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    ShadowPhoenix3 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    i knew it! i knew one existed! a thread from 2005! i knew there would be one! look at the first post.
    OMG 2005!
    That was like, 2 years ago! OMG!
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    Toph_kicks_butt wrote:
    ShadowPhoenix3 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    i knew it! i knew one existed! a thread from 2005! i knew there would be one! look at the first post.
    OMG 2005!
    That was like, 2 years ago! OMG!
    it was made in october 2005, now it's march 2008.
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    tomtitan wrote:
    Toph_kicks_butt wrote:
    ShadowPhoenix3 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    i knew it! i knew one existed! a thread from 2005! i knew there would be one! look at the first post.
    OMG 2005!
    That was like, 2 years ago! OMG!
    it was made in october 2005, now it's march 2008.
    yeah, so it's almost 3 years.
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    I like most background characters more than katara

    jun was better than katara and I'd rather have her

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    djdfire wrote:
    StrongGaia wrote:
    foamingmonkey wrote:

    djdfire wrote:
    I think that Katara forgot what fun is since she had to grow up and take on huge responsiblity at a young age.

    Yeah, but again, it's not like she's the only one who's gone through hard times or had responsibilities; she's just the only one who whines about it. Sokka was faced with responsibility at a young age, too. His father left when he was rather young (maybe about ten or eleven?), leaving him to be one of the last defenders of the entire tribe, and Sokka was left to train the children of the tribe how to battle.

    I don't really know WHY they left their entire village unprotected when they knew the Fire Nation liked to come down and kick them around every so often, or why they didn't just relocate to where the Fire Nation might not find them for a while, but it doesn't matter. Sokka was left with the burden of protecting his homeland, knowing that if the Fire Nation ever came back, he would be their last defense; he would have to fight back an entire army, and if he failed, everyone and everything he knows would perish.

    To me, that's a lot harder to deal with than just caring for the family. This is about defending your entire tribe; many families depending on whether or not you are strong enough to protect them when the time comes to fight to the end. But Sokka still knows what fun is.

    What about Aang? At a young age, he was also dealt a heavy blow; he's the AVATAR. He has the entire weight of the WORLD on his shoulders. You can argue whether or not he understands the gravity of the situation, but I think Azula "zapped" some sense into him to see what's at stake. He still makes time to have fun.

    Willing to argue that she doesn't have fun because she's had a great loss? Well, Sokka shares her loss, plus he's lost a girl he loved, Yue. Aang has lost his entire nation; everyone and everything he knew is gone. Toph never really had anything, no friends to speak of and what appears to be an emotionally distant family. You'd think this would be more emotionally crippling than having several loved ones and then losing one of them, because at least Katara still had her grandmother and brother who cared. Toph has hardly ever been shown true affection from her parents or friends. But she still has fun.

    We're supposed to feel sympathy for Katara, because she's never known any fun; she's a surrogate mother to her family and she's never been able to be a kid. It's so sad how she's had responsibilties and losses. Well, so has everyone else in the Aang-Gang, and they don't seem to be hurting for fun. Why are we supposed to feel sympathy again?



    I agree with you, but not everyone deals with pressure and with loss the same way though. She could just be emotionally weaker than all the others.
    I agree with the fact that everyone deals with pressure. After asking my mom (wha has a degree in psychology), she told me that some people who have had a major loss at an early age and had to take on a huge responsibility may turn out to become overly motherly/fatherly and may not know how to fave fun anymore or remember how to have fun. Now, I'm not knocking down what Sokka had to endure with his losses but I think he is more emotionally stronger than his sister. Why? Because as being the not only the older sibling but being the only man and having to protect his village, he may have taught himself to deal with loss better because as a warrior you may have to deal with many losses and though you may be emotionally close to them, you know that you have to be strong for the rest of the people. Though he wasn't in battle at the time, he still had that mindset of a warrior that Katara didn't have. I think Aang is also more emotionally strong than Katara because he wasn't given that huge reponsibility at such a young as Katara. Though his nation is gone and everything he knew was gone as well and the fact that he faces the a very huge responsibility now, he knows that has friends who love him and care for him and who are willing to help him, which tends to help ease their nerves and keeps Aang from going all overprotective and willing to have fun because he knows now, in the midst of all this craziness that he's not alone. Though I think that he's not fully over the fact that the Air Nomads were completely wiped out, I think that because of the love that Sokka, Katara, and Toph have shown him, he is able to cope with it better.

    Toph is also like Sokka and Aang on the emotionally stronger part but I think the reason she that way because she used the thrill of danger and excitement to counter her distant relationship with her parents. Because she was so distant parents, I think that she never really knew what it was like to have someone who really cared for your well-being.


    Now, I'm not saying that Katara's overly motherly actions are right but they are justifiable. Also, comparing her emotional strength to that of the other characters, who clearly are either emotionally stronger or more emotionally stronger than she is, is not going to help. Also it makes the show intereting to see how the characters deal with their emotions. That make it more realistic and gives the characters a more personal look. So I say that the motherly Katara stays, but they tune it down a bit and have her character develop into someone who is responsible but still likes to have fun.
    katara's 1 of my favorite characters. when does she complain? and also, re-watch the runaway. you might get a better understanding of katara's character. i mean, up until aang's discovery, he had a perfect life. and even so, there wasn't a war going on when aang found out he was the avatar. he just knew he was. big whoop. must have been emotionally crushing. i can see him losing his whole people dying must have been horrible (re-watch strom), but again katara helped him through that. and aang just can't stay down for long, it's not his personality. and when he is down, the whole gang comes and gives him emotional pep talks. toph was a spoiled girl who was treated differently because she was blind. must have been hard . but she still found a outlet to her anger or sadness or whatever by doing the earth rumble thing. sokka: again, re-watch runaway. i can see him being depressed about yue, but he still has suki and toph to comfort him .

    something that really annoys me is that alot of people hate katara just because he was being mean to zuko. no duh! i doubt she would act like nothing had happened. the guy who has been trying to hunt you for quite a while, and helped his sadistic sister kill your best friend, and probably would've tried to kill her too, right after she tried to help him, and then he comes and asks to join the team. how would you react?

    w/out katara, the gaang would've been screwed. she cooks, she actually does something other than play around like the others, and she keeps them in check. and, her learning wat she learned in the puppetmaster wasn't an advantage. it was to level the playing field. a waterbender in the FIRE nation, sometimes without water. that's fair
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    This thread is older than 90% of this show's fans.

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