Nickelodeon (ended 2008)
omg it was REALLY good. I liked it a lot I was like REALLY ON THE EDGE OF MY CHAIR while watching this episode
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What I thought was really strange was that female and male prisoners where in the same prison. I thought that in the old school asian cultures that wouldn't happen but its a plot thing so it's all good.
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| let's examine what Ozai said to Zuko at DOBS2, and also remember that ursa in "zuko alone" encouraged Zuko to play with his sister and later we see that after ursa left the FN, Azula had Zuko's knife; also that in "the beach" Azula said "Well, yes, I guess you're right. I don't have sob stories like all of you. I could sit here and complain how our mom liked Zuko more than me, but I don't really care. (Cut to shot of the burning embers left from the fire) My own mother...(cut to shot of the embers reflected in Azula's eyes) thought I was a monster. (cut to Mai and Zuko. Then to Ty Lee, who looks on concerned. Cut back to a wide shot of the whole group, Azula sitting in the center of the shot) She was right, of course, but it still hurt. " -------------------------- Fire Lord Ozai: My father, Fire Lord Azulon, had commanded me to do the unthinkable to you, my own son. And I was going to do it. Your Mother had found out and swore she would protect you at any cost. She knew I wanted the throne and she proposed a plan. A plan in which I would become Fire Lord and your life would be spared. Fire Lord Ozai: Your Mother did vicious, treasonous things that night. She knew the consequences and accepted them. For her treason, she was banished. Zuko: (a tear streams from his eye) So she's alive. Fire Lord Ozai: Perhaps. Now I realize that banishment is far too merciful a penalty for treason. Your penalty will be far steeper. ---------------------------- here is my possible theory Ursa talked to Azula, and Azula told her mom that Azulon told Ozai to kill Zuko; Ursa decided to go directly to Azulon with Azula with her; and Ursa and Azulon started arguing about what he commanded Ozai, than Azulon threatened either Ursa or Azula(maybe both) and Azula stabbed Azulon in the back. maybe that is when Ursa called Azula a monster (or maybe right before their talk to Azulon). In order to protect now her daughter, and also to make sure Ozai would not follow the command of Azulon, Ursa went to Ozai, and told him that she knew Ozai wanted the throne, and in order to "save Zuko" she could take care of Azulon, and than she could make sure Iroh would not contest the lie that "Azulon's last words were that Ozai should be firelord", than later on told Ozai the lie that she killed Azulon(when it was Azula earlier) as far as Ozai knows, Ursa made a deal, made sure Iroh would not contest the throne, and Ursa killed his father, he doesn't know Azula overheard Azulon and Ozai, and that Azula killed Azulon |
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It's a good theory, I agree but I reckon Azula had a lot less to do with it. I suspect Ursa killed Azulon and Ozai was involved in the deal somehow. |
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Remember, though, she told Zuko that everything that she did was to protect him. Maybe she would kill in cold blood for his sake.
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Remember, though, she told Zuko that everything that she did was to protect him. Maybe she would kill in cold blood for his sake. |
how would iroh know how to keep his mouth shut? iroh was probably on a ship returning to the Fire Nation. Maybe iroh met with ursa after that night or maybe iroh knows where ursa is.
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how would iroh know how to keep his mouth shut? iroh was probably on a ship returning to the Fire Nation. Maybe iroh met with ursa after that night or maybe iroh knows where ursa is. |
It's a good idea but i think that this is much more likely. I think that Ozai show Zuko and Azula were listening in to the conversation, and he saw that Azula stayed when Zuko didn't. I think that Azulon never told Ozai to kill Zuko.
But Ozai told Azula to tell Zuko that he was going to be killed, and he knew that Zuko would tell Ursa and that Ursa would want to do something about this.
As the the knife thing, I think Azula just wanted it, and was jealous that Zuko got it and she didn't.
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What I thought was really strange was that female and male prisoners where in the same prison. I thought that in the old school asian cultures that wouldn't happen but its a plot thing so it's all good. |
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It's a good idea but i think that this is much more likely. I think that Ozai show Zuko and Azula were listening in to the conversation, and he saw that Azula stayed when Zuko didn't. I think that Azulon never told Ozai to kill Zuko. But Ozai told Azula to tell Zuko that he was going to be killed, and he knew that Zuko would tell Ursa and that Ursa would want to do something about this. As the the knife thing, I think Azula just wanted it, and was jealous that Zuko got it and she didn't. |
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| okay i will |
ok all done
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I think Ursa killed Azulon . Azula was just a little girl when he was killed and as daveshanFromGMU said it's just a kids show
