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    timgueguen

    [301]Feb 9, 2009
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    There seems to be the impression here that Harold's vote rigging isn't widely known. That's not the case. Courtney found out when she arrived at Playa des Losers, which means that everyone there before her obviously knew, and it makes no sense that the final five wouldn't have found out in short order when they got together with the rest of the campers.
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    nyfan

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    timgueguen wrote:
    There seems to be the impression here that Harold's vote rigging isn't widely known. That's not the case. Courtney found out when she arrived at Playa des Losers, which means that everyone there before her obviously knew, and it makes no sense that the final five wouldn't have found out in short order when they got together with the rest of the campers.

    Well at one point, Duncan thought Heather was responsible for Courtney getting kicked off. Giving her track record, that was not a bad asumption.

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    tigerty101

    [303]Feb 9, 2009
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    timgueguen wrote:
    There seems to be the impression here that Harold's vote rigging isn't widely known. That's not the case. Courtney found out when she arrived at Playa des Losers, which means that everyone there before her obviously knew, and it makes no sense that the final five wouldn't have found out in short order when they got together with the rest of the campers.

    Yeah, I agree, I say Leshawna, and everyone, knows that Harold cheated Courtney off.

    I think Leshawna's going to be on Harold's side. She seems more likely to just argue and fight with Courtney then go to her side to me.

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    Irfantastic

    [304]Feb 9, 2009
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    I'm sure they all found out in TDDDI or something. Courtney probably told everyone
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    CrystalCoconut

    [305]Feb 9, 2009
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    We can't tell, they have different story writters and editors this season. Oh and I'm an American and I saw TDA episode 5, the whole thing in decent quality.
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    stalemate666

    [306]Feb 9, 2009
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    Did anyone else notice that Justin seemed to be attracted to Owen for a second there, I swear to god Justin is gay anyways everyone thinks Heather is going to take Harolds side, but I don't think that's the case, she needs an alliance with a strong member, an alliance with Harold would ruin her, she's going to take Duncan's side, he is the only one that doesn't really care what she did to Trent/Gwen and Beth/Lindsey, she pretty much left him and Courtney alone, this is how I think it's going to play out

    Duncan: Heather, Gwen
    Harold: Leshawna
    and I think DJ with side with Harold first but then Chef will make him switch sides
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    XxIcingOnTopxX

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    stalemate666 wrote:
    Did anyone else notice that Justin seemed to be attracted to Owen for a second there, I swear to god Justin is gay anyways everyone thinks Heather is going to take Harolds side, but I don't think that's the case, she needs an alliance with a strong member, an alliance with Harold would ruin her, she's going to take Duncan's side, he is the only one that doesn't really care what she did to Trent/Gwen and Beth/Lindsey, she pretty much left him and Courtney alone, this is how I think it's going to play out

    Duncan: Heather, Gwen
    Harold: Leshawna
    and I think DJ with side with Harold first but then Chef will make him switch sides


    Only A quick hug with Owen because they were happy they were safe.
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    nyfan

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    stalemate666 wrote:
    Did anyone else notice that Justin seemed to be attracted to Owen for a second there, I swear to god Justin is gay anyways everyone thinks Heather is going to take Harolds side, but I don't think that's the case, she needs an alliance with a strong member, an alliance with Harold would ruin her, she's going to take Duncan's side, he is the only one that doesn't really care what she did to Trent/Gwen and Beth/Lindsey, she pretty much left him and Courtney alone, this is how I think it's going to play out Duncan: Heather, Gwen Harold: Leshawna and I think DJ with side with Harold first but then Chef will make him switch sides

    I don't think so. You forget Heather and Courtney have some history. Heather has antagonist Courtney in the past. Heather and Courtney will never be on the same side.

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    OrSoIThought

    [310]Feb 9, 2009
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    I suppose all these questions and more to be answered on the next episode of Total...Drama...Aaaaction!!!
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    nyfan

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    There is some form of justice of Trent getting voted off because of throwing challenges. No one but Trent has been kicked off since Trent started to throw challenges. N one was voted off in episode 4, and Trent got voted off in episode 5. I am glad for that, that would not have been right another Gripp had to get eliminated in such a crocked fashion. I felt the same way when Courtney got eliminated unjustly, though I sympitize with Harold's motivation, it still wasn't right. As is what Trent did. Only he should be punished for that, no one else.
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    OrSoIThought

    [312]Feb 9, 2009
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    I don't know. Harold went for Courtney, not Duncan. Innocent victim. She didn't do anything to Harold, except for maybe be impatient with him. If it wasn't for the LaShawna thing I would have guessed Harold had liked Courtney and was punishing her for liking Duncan, but I guess he just went for the one he thought was less likely to kill him later (obviously, that didn't work out like he'd planned).
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    Skyancez

    [313]Feb 9, 2009
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    I gotta say that I was expecting Trent to get voted off and a good thing too! He was starting to annoy me and quite frankly I hope either Gwen or Owen go next. Just to be fair to the others.

    Even though I see Heather getting the boot next, seeing she has no alliance or has yet to show any diabolical plans. And I see Justin going far...maybe even winning the whole thing!

    And lastly, I was REALLY dissapointed in Geoff and Bridgette's performance this season. Seeing my two favourites characters going down like that, and not being the characters I adored in season One was a major blow for me. Oh well, I shall root for DJ!

    EDIT: I think Harold went for Courtney because Duncan bullied him all the time, and wanted to see Duncan suffer the lost of his "love life" on the island, where he can see the guy going down while he laughs at him.

    Edited on 02/09/2009 7:53pm
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    nyfan

    [314]Feb 9, 2009
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    OrSoIThought wrote:
    I don't know. Harold went for Courtney, not Duncan. Innocent victim. She didn't do anything to Harold, except for maybe be impatient with him. If it wasn't for the LaShawna thing I would have guessed Harold had liked Courtney and was punishing her for liking Duncan, but I guess he just went for the one he thought was less likely to kill him later (obviously, that didn't work out like he'd planned).

    I agree with you. I have always felt that way. Which is why this Harold / Duncan rivalory right now, both sides make valid points who is in the right. Duncan started it with his bullying, but that does not make what happened to Courtney is right? She is perfectly justified to be pissed off. I think had Harold cheated to get Duncan kicked off, Duncan might actully be more forgiven. "You got a problem with me fine, but don't mess with my woman."

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    stalemate666

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    nyfan wrote:

    stalemate666 wrote:
    Did anyone else notice that Justin seemed to be attracted to Owen for a second there, I swear to god Justin is gay anyways everyone thinks Heather is going to take Harolds side, but I don't think that's the case, she needs an alliance with a strong member, an alliance with Harold would ruin her, she's going to take Duncan's side, he is the only one that doesn't really care what she did to Trent/Gwen and Beth/Lindsey, she pretty much left him and Courtney alone, this is how I think it's going to play out Duncan: Heather, Gwen Harold: Leshawna and I think DJ with side with Harold first but then Chef will make him switch sides

    I don't think so. You forget Heather and Courtney have some history. Heather has antagonist Courtney in the past. Heather and Courtney will never be on the same side.


    I wouldn't be so sure, ever since Courtney has loosened up (lol if you get the pun laugh)she's totally different and the only three things she's interested in are Duncan, getting back at Harold and winning the money (not necessarily in that order) I wouldn't be surprised if she teamed up with Heather to make Harold pay or to advance in the game
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    stalemate666

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    XxIcingOnTopxX wrote:
    stalemate666 wrote:
    Did anyone else notice that Justin seemed to be attracted to Owen for a second there, I swear to god Justin is gay anyways everyone thinks Heather is going to take Harolds side, but I don't think that's the case, she needs an alliance with a strong member, an alliance with Harold would ruin her, she's going to take Duncan's side, he is the only one that doesn't really care what she did to Trent/Gwen and Beth/Lindsey, she pretty much left him and Courtney alone, this is how I think it's going to play out

    Duncan: Heather, Gwen
    Harold: Leshawna
    and I think DJ with side with Harold first but then Chef will make him switch sides


    Only A quick hug with Owen because they were happy they were safe.

    Yes but why was Justin happy Owen was safe, why does he care
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    KarmaGoddess11

    [317]Feb 10, 2009
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    stalemate666 wrote:
    Yes but why was Justin happy Owen was safe, why does he care


    Maybe because it meant his plan to get rid of Trent and become the new team captain by default had succeeded. With that in mind, Owen wasn't important in and of himself, just in what his safety meant to Justin's plans.
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    SqueakyYugi

    [318]Feb 10, 2009
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    OrSoIThought wrote:
    I don't know. Harold went for Courtney, not Duncan. Innocent victim. She didn't do anything to Harold, except for maybe be impatient with him. If it wasn't for the LaShawna thing I would have guessed Harold had liked Courtney and was punishing her for liking Duncan, but I guess he just went for the one he thought was less likely to kill him later (obviously, that didn't work out like he'd planned).

    The way I see it, there were 2 good reasons to vote off Courtney instead of Duncan:

    1) He gets to watch the guy who bullied him mope around about his severed relationship

    2) No one would suspect him of rigging the vote against Courtney, since he has no quarrel with her.

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    Haroldrules2000

    [319]Feb 10, 2009
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    It is about time for the Harold Duncan to become rivals again i believe this conflict will get them both kick off aand maybe causeing them to become friends
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    OrSoIThought

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    I think the show would lose something without their rivalry.
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