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    Spongeyfan

    [22]Dec 1, 2006
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    [QUOTE="TAMKFan"]
    spongeliv wrote:

    talonmalon333 wrote:
    kayrahtay2000 wrote:
    Yeah, people are finding stupid excuses to hate season 4.

    Stupid excuses? Well there are a few stupid excuses such as "SpongeBob's voice has changed," but there are also some key differences comparing the older SpongeBob to the newer SpongeBob.

    Many of the characters personalities have changed. SpongeBob has become increasingly more naive, sensitive and now acts dumb. Patrick has become more stupid than ever! Mr. Krabs has been acting more "mean" here lately too.

    The story lines aren’t as creative or "unique" as the older episodes. Seriously, Good Neighbors was terrible. The humor has even changed if you asked me, there seems to be a song in every episode, the humor is faster paced, and it also seems more "childish" too. In season 1-3 it seems like they would put a lot more "adult" jokes in the episodes.

    The animation isn't as good as season 2 and 3, but it's much better than season 1.

    There are many ways why season 4 doesn't have that same "spark" as the older seasons, but I'm not going to name all of them. I can see why many people don't like the newer episodes. I personally don't hate them, but I do agree that they aren’t as good.


    Their you go with stupid excuses again because SpongeBob was ALWAYS naive and Patrick was ALWAYS dumb. What about in "Pressure" where Patrick just found out that Sandy is a girl? If that ain't dumb, then I don't know what is.

    Patrick was always dumb and SpongeBob was always naive(a bit though)your'e right there.
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    [QUOTE="TAMKFan"]
    spongeliv wrote:

    talonmalon333 wrote:
    kayrahtay2000 wrote:
    Yeah, people are finding stupid excuses to hate season 4.

    Stupid excuses? Well there are a few stupid excuses such as "SpongeBob's voice has changed," but there are also some key differences comparing the older SpongeBob to the newer SpongeBob.

    Many of the characters personalities have changed. SpongeBob has become increasingly more naive, sensitive and now acts dumb. Patrick has become more stupid than ever! Mr. Krabs has been acting more "mean" here lately too.

    The story lines aren’t as creative or "unique" as the older episodes. Seriously, Good Neighbors was terrible. The humor has even changed if you asked me, there seems to be a song in every episode, the humor is faster paced, and it also seems more "childish" too. In season 1-3 it seems like they would put a lot more "adult" jokes in the episodes.

    The animation isn't as good as season 2 and 3, but it's much better than season 1.

    There are many ways why season 4 doesn't have that same "spark" as the older seasons, but I'm not going to name all of them. I can see why many people don't like the newer episodes. I personally don't hate them, but I do agree that they aren’t as good.

    Their you go with stupid excuses again because SpongeBob was ALWAYS naive and Patrick was ALWAYS dumb. What about in "Pressure" where Patrick just found out that Sandy is a girl? If that ain't dumb, then I don't know what is.
    Those aren't stupid excuses. She said Spongebob was more naive and Patrick was more dumb. And the story lines are terrible, and the jokes are stupid now.

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    talonmalon333

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    [QUOTE="not_grape"]
    TAMKFan wrote:
    spongeliv wrote:

    talonmalon333 wrote:
    kayrahtay2000 wrote:
    Yeah, people are finding stupid excuses to hate season 4.

    Stupid excuses? Well there are a few stupid excuses such as "SpongeBob's voice has changed," but there are also some key differences comparing the older SpongeBob to the newer SpongeBob.

    Many of the characters personalities have changed. SpongeBob has become increasingly more naive, sensitive and now acts dumb. Patrick has become more stupid than ever! Mr. Krabs has been acting more "mean" here lately too.

    The story lines aren’t as creative or "unique" as the older episodes. Seriously, Good Neighbors was terrible. The humor has even changed if you asked me, there seems to be a song in every episode, the humor is faster paced, and it also seems more "childish" too. In season 1-3 it seems like they would put a lot more "adult" jokes in the episodes.

    The animation isn't as good as season 2 and 3, but it's much better than season 1.

    There are many ways why season 4 doesn't have that same "spark" as the older seasons, but I'm not going to name all of them. I can see why many people don't like the newer episodes. I personally don't hate them, but I do agree that they aren’t as good.

    Their you go with stupid excuses again because SpongeBob was ALWAYS naive and Patrick was ALWAYS dumb. What about in "Pressure" where Patrick just found out that Sandy is a girl? If that ain't dumb, then I don't know what is.
    Those aren't stupid excuses. She said Spongebob was more naive and Patrick was more dumb. And the story lines are terrible, and the jokes are stupid now.



    (As you can see, I bolded parts that are important)

    Actually, they are pretty stupid excuses. I don't see what wrong with SpongeBob and Patrick being more naive, and dumb for Patrick. The story lines are fine, especially "Krusty Towers" and "Have You Seen This Snail?". I have no idea what you mean by "the jokes are stupid now".

    The thing about the jokes being childish was pretty stupid. Spongeliv, you say that season four is childish, and yet season one was just as childish or more childish with storylines like "Bubblestand" and "F.U.N.".
    Another thing. I have no idea why you complained that there are songs in almost every episode. The songs are always entertaining.

    I don't mind if you dislike season four, but atleast give reasons why you do, rather than simply look for meaningless reasons.
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    talonmalon333

    [26]Dec 1, 2006
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    [QUOTE="spongeliv"]
    talonmalon333 wrote:
    not_grape wrote:
    TAMKFan wrote:
    spongeliv wrote:

    talonmalon333 wrote:
    kayrahtay2000 wrote:
    Yeah, people are finding stupid excuses to hate season 4.

    Stupid excuses? Well there are a few stupid excuses such as "SpongeBob's voice has changed," but there are also some key differences comparing the older SpongeBob to the newer SpongeBob.

    Many of the characters personalities have changed. SpongeBob has become increasingly more naive, sensitive and now acts dumb. Patrick has become more stupid than ever! Mr. Krabs has been acting more "mean" here lately too.

    The story lines aren’t as creative or "unique" as the older episodes. Seriously, Good Neighbors was terrible. The humor has even changed if you asked me, there seems to be a song in every episode, the humor is faster paced, and it also seems more "childish" too. In season 1-3 it seems like they would put a lot more "adult" jokes in the episodes.

    The animation isn't as good as season 2 and 3, but it's much better than season 1.

    There are many ways why season 4 doesn't have that same "spark" as the older seasons, but I'm not going to name all of them. I can see why many people don't like the newer episodes. I personally don't hate them, but I do agree that they aren’t as good.

    Their you go with stupid excuses again because SpongeBob was ALWAYS naive and Patrick was ALWAYS dumb. What about in "Pressure" where Patrick just found out that Sandy is a girl? If that ain't dumb, then I don't know what is.
    Those aren't stupid excuses. She said Spongebob was more naive and Patrick was more dumb. And the story lines are terrible, and the jokes are stupid now.



    (As you can see, I bolded parts that are important)

    Actually, they are pretty stupid excuses. I don't see what wrong with SpongeBob and Patrick being more naive, and dumb for Patrick. The story lines are fine, especially "Krusty Towers" and "Have You Seen This Snail?". I have no idea what you mean by "the jokes are stupid now".

    The thing about the jokes being childish was pretty stupid. Spongeliv, you say that season four is childish, and yet season one was just as childish or more childish with storylines like "Bubblestand" and "F.U.N.".
    Another thing. I have no idea why you complained that there are songs in almost every episode. The songs are always entertaining.

    I don't mind if you dislike season four, but atleast give reasons why you do, rather than simply look for meaningless reasons.

    First off, I don't mean the storylines are childish, I mean the jokes are, there are practically no "adult" jokes in these season 4 episodes, while season 1 still had a good amount of them, and as for Patrick and SpongeBob being more dumb/naive, is not a "stupid" excuse, in fact, it's a very good complaint, it means there personalities have changed! They aren't the same SpongeBob and Patrick!

    Now to talk about the story lines, it seems like the humor in the episodes are much different than the older seasons, it's more fast paced, the stories seem to end abruptly, like Dunces and Dragons. They seem to be running out of ideas as well; both "Selling Out" and "Krusty Towers" are similar. Another key difference is the animation isn’t as good as Season 2 and 3, but it is a heck of a lot better than season 1, I’ll give it that.

    The reason I'm complaining about the songs, is that they are doing it in almost every episode! Back in season 1-3, they only did it every once in a while, so it was "special." Now they are overdoing it, and the songs aren't really funny or even entertaining comparing them to the older songs.

    Sorry, but I don't find those to be stupid excuses at all, I find them to be good reasons why Season 4 isn't as good as the older seasons. Once again, this is just my opinion. We all have different opinions.

    And I accept that you have your own opinion. I don't want you to think that I am trying to change it. I'm just sick of people critizising (yes I can't spell) season four. You said that the animation isn't as good as in the other seasons. It is actually better, though it isn't as likable as the old animation, but I know what you mean there. Please forgive me if I bothered you in any way. The way I feel about the critizisiom (I feel really stupid with this spelling) is not directed at you.
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    talonmalon333

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    spongeliv wrote:

    "And I accept that you have your own opinion. I don't want you to think that I am trying to change it. I'm just sick of people critizising (yes I can't spell) season four. You said that the animation isn't as good as in the other seasons. It is actually better, though it isn't as likable as the old animation, but I know what you mean there. Please forgive me if I bothered you in any way. The way I feel about the critizisiom (I feel really stupid with this spelling) is not directed at you."

    (Sorry, the quote got all mested up.)

    Lol, okay, I thought you were mad at me. Sorry, I always take people way too literally/seriously. Anyways, it's not that I hate season 4, it's just I can see why people do dislike it. Personally it's my least favorite season, but I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be.

    And as for animation, I guess your right, I was being a bit too picky there, I just can't get over in Wishing You Well Squidward not having a shirt in two scenes, that is a pretty big animation error, and these episodes were rushed so I should cut them some slack.

    I understand now. No hard feelings.
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    just_joking96

    [29]Dec 12, 2006
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    I heard that they fired the guy who created it so now it sucks (but i still like certain eoisodes

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    kjb29

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    just_joking96 wrote:

    I heard that they fired the guy who created it so now it sucks (but i still like certain eoisodes



    Stephen isn't fired, he just has a differnent job on the show now.
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    just_joking96

    [31]Dec 14, 2006
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    kjb29 wrote:
    just_joking96 wrote:

    I heard that they fired the guy who created it so now it sucks (but i still like certain eoisodes

    Stephen isn't fired, he just has a differnent job on the show now.

    I know but it is still kinda suckish.

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    hp1145

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    Gotta disagree, there were few season 3 episodes made in the first quarter of 2003.
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    argiry

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    I would like to see a chart of the IQs of all the people who think SpongeBob has NOT changed compared with those of people who KNOW the show has changed.  I can't help but postulate that there is a direct correlation between IQ and the ability to detect a difference.  Ignorance is bliss...I wish I had it

     

    "Thank the gods that no one will ever believe you"

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    sbss_shipper

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    The beginning of Season 4 was a really shakey start, but later on it got better. The main reason Season 4 is different and weird is cause they brought in some new writers. And of course Steve Hillenburg isn't incharge anymore. Some episodes have a different type of humor but they're still funny.

    How can some of you guys not notice the personality changes? Sandy's a scientist now, Patrick's retardness goes from really dumb to really smart, Spongebob's not naive anymore but dumb and overemotional. Mr. Krabs, Squidward, Plankton, and Gary are the only characters whom didn't really change as much.

    Edited on 03/23/2007 4:40pm
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    talonmalon333

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    sbss_shipper wrote:

    The beginning of Season 4 was a really shakey start, but later on it got better. The main reason Season 4 is different and weird is cause they brought in some new writers. And of course Steve Hillenburg isn't incharge anymore. Some episodes have a different type of humor but they're still funny.

    How can some of you guys not notice the personality changes? Sandy's a scientist now, Patrick's retardness goes from really dumb to really smart, Spongebob's not naive anymore but dumb and overemotional. Mr. Krabs, Squidward, Plankton, and Gary are the only characters whom didn't really change as much.

    WoW, I checked a conversation I had with SpongeLiv a while ago and am surprised at how much I took up for season four. How my opinion of it has changed...

    Anyway you listed a number of characters who hadn't changed. Sadly, most of them did. Here I will list why. 

    Squidward: He seems to have lost his mind in season four. Look at how he commonely starts yelling and throwing a fit, like in the beginning of "Once Bitten", and when he breaks through the door in "Good Neighbors".

    Mr. Krabs: He THINKS this show belongs to him, and that he's the main character. So many episodes involve him!

    Plankton: I can't tell if this is good or not, but he seems to be smarter now. Look at his plans in "Krabs vs. Plankton" and "New Leaf". They are better than most old ones.

    Gary: Thankfully, he's still the same !!!!!!! 

     

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    minerva73

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    talonmalon333 wrote:
    sbss_shipper wrote:

    The beginning of Season 4 was a really shakey start, but later on it got better. The main reason Season 4 is different and weird is cause they brought in some new writers. And of course Steve Hillenburg isn't incharge anymore. Some episodes have a different type of humor but they're still funny.

    How can some of you guys not notice the personality changes? Sandy's a scientist now, Patrick's retardness goes from really dumb to really smart, Spongebob's not naive anymore but dumb and overemotional. Mr. Krabs, Squidward, Plankton, and Gary are the only characters whom didn't really change as much.

    WoW, I checked a conversation I had with SpongeLiv a while ago and am surprised at how much I took up for season four. How my opinion of it has changed...

    Anyway you listed a number of characters who hadn't changed. Sadly, most of them did. Here I will list why. 

    Squidward: He seems to have lost his mind in season four. Look at how he commonely starts yelling and throwing a fit, like in the beginning of "Once Bitten", and when he breaks through the door in "Good Neighbors".

    Mr. Krabs: He THINKS this show belongs to him, and that he's the main character. So many episodes involve him!

    Plankton: I can't tell if this is good or not, but he seems to be smarter now. Look at his plans in "Krabs vs. Plankton" and "New Leaf". They are better than most old ones.

    Gary: Thankfully, he's still the same !!!!!!! 

     

    Plankton isn't that much smarter. He did some really smart things in Season 1 like attempt to create a friendship with SpongeBob and steal the Krabby Patty.

    When people critisize Season 4, it makes me think that some people are ungrateful for having their favorite show renewed for another season.

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    talonmalon333

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    minerva73 wrote:
    talonmalon333 wrote:
    sbss_shipper wrote:

    The beginning of Season 4 was a really shakey start, but later on it got better. The main reason Season 4 is different and weird is cause they brought in some new writers. And of course Steve Hillenburg isn't incharge anymore. Some episodes have a different type of humor but they're still funny.

    How can some of you guys not notice the personality changes? Sandy's a scientist now, Patrick's retardness goes from really dumb to really smart, Spongebob's not naive anymore but dumb and overemotional. Mr. Krabs, Squidward, Plankton, and Gary are the only characters whom didn't really change as much.

    WoW, I checked a conversation I had with SpongeLiv a while ago and am surprised at how much I took up for season four. How my opinion of it has changed...

    Anyway you listed a number of characters who hadn't changed. Sadly, most of them did. Here I will list why.

    Squidward: He seems to have lost his mind in season four. Look at how he commonely starts yelling and throwing a fit, like in the beginning of "Once Bitten", and when he breaks through the door in "Good Neighbors".

    Mr. Krabs: He THINKS this show belongs to him, and that he's the main character. So many episodes involve him!

    Plankton: I can't tell if this is good or not, but he seems to be smarter now. Look at his plans in "Krabs vs. Plankton" and "New Leaf". They are better than most old ones.

    Gary: Thankfully, he's still the same !!!!!!!

     

    Plankton isn't that much smarter. He did some really smart things in Season 1 like attempt to create a friendship with SpongeBob and steal the Krabby Patty.

    When people critisize Season 4, it makes me think that some people are ungrateful for having their favorite show renewed for another season.

    When I said that my opinion has changed, I don't mean I went from liking it to hating it. I used to think it was great, better than season one. But now I believe that it is easily the worst season, though it is still good enough to keep the SpongeBob legacy rolling, even though the creator has resigned to a lower position.

     

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    butchazoid

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    sbss_shipper wrote:

    The beginning of Season 4 was a really shakey start, but later on it got better. The main reason Season 4 is different and weird is cause they brought in some new writers. And of course Steve Hillenburg isn't incharge anymore. Some episodes have a different type of humor but they're still funny.

    How can some of you guys not notice the personality changes? Sandy's a scientist now, Patrick's retardness goes from really dumb to really smart, Spongebob's not naive anymore but dumb and overemotional. Mr. Krabs, Squidward, Plankton, and Gary are the only characters whom didn't really change as much.



    I believe Sandy was a scientist to begin with. You remember the season one episode "Sandy's Rocket"?
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    butchazoid wrote:
    sbss_shipper wrote:

    The beginning of Season 4 was a really shakey start, but later on it got better. The main reason Season 4 is different and weird is cause they brought in some new writers. And of course Steve Hillenburg isn't incharge anymore. Some episodes have a different type of humor but they're still funny.

    How can some of you guys not notice the personality changes? Sandy's a scientist now, Patrick's retardness goes from really dumb to really smart, Spongebob's not naive anymore but dumb and overemotional. Mr. Krabs, Squidward, Plankton, and Gary are the only characters whom didn't really change as much.



    Yes that is semi-true, however, her personality has changed over the recent Seasons... She used to be a sterotypical, friendly, strong, wild, southern drawl accented Squirrel with a witty attitude. But now, she's just a dull smart scientist with nothing uniqe whatsoever...

    I believe Sandy was a scientist to begin with. You remember the season one episode "Sandy's Rocket"?

     Yes that is semi-true however, her personality has changed over the recent Seasons... She used to be a sterotypical, friendly, strong, wild, southern drawl accented Squirrel with a witty attitude. But now, she's just a dull smart scientist with nothing uniqe whatsoever...

    Edited on 04/25/2007 4:07pm
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