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Okay, forget the part about me not watching Disney as a kid. Heh. I don't even watch it now! But whatever. I like Spongebob better. Forget this argument. There are other things to talk about anyway.

seems the best thing to do. i agree to a ceasefire. simple difference of opinion getting out of hand... happens to the best of us old chap.

Listen. I just don't like Disney Channel. Can we just forget this pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaassssseeee????

No I would not like Phineas and Ferb even if it was on Nickelodeon. I've seen a few episodes of Phineas and Ferb and I'm not to crazy about them. There are even shows on Nickelodeon that I can't stand. Does that answer your question?? Please, just leave me alone. I beg you! I'm tired of explaining my postion here.

Oh yeah...and I AM still a child thank you very much. I am 13 years old!

Oh dear....

*sighs*

Well, for the sake of all the people who are willing for a truce and a ceasefire between the SpongeBob fans and the PaF fans, I'll resist saying everything that I want to say. Plus, I do respect everyone's right to an opinion.

However, there's a different between flaming, and debating. And I do like debating.

So, SquidRob, I present to you, some counter-arguments!

1. The plots are stupid.
Well, that'd be a lot easier to prove/disprove if you had examples. Personally, I think the plots are creative and unique. You really don't ever see anything like it anymore.

2. It's not funny.
I really only have one thing to say to this, and it's I'm sorry that the jokes go over your head. Not meant as an insult, simply a statement.

3. Perry the Platypus is retarded.
I'm sorry, but nothing, not even a talking sponge with square trousers, can beat a crime-fighting platypus in a fedora. Nothing.

For a much better worded defense of this awesome show, I suggest you take a look at this thread:

http://www.tv.com/phineas-and-ferb/show/69897/10-reasons/topic/84395-1231871/msgs.html

Maybe then you will have a different opinion, or can at least respect both shows.

General eeemeee, out!

Oh dear....

*sighs*

Well, for the sake of all the people who are willing for a truce and a ceasefire between the SpongeBob fans and the PaF fans, I'll resist saying everything that I want to say. Plus, I do respect everyone's right to an opinion.

However, there's a different between flaming, and debating. And I do like debating.

So, SquidRob, I present to you, some counter-arguments!

1. The plots are stupid.
Well, that'd be a lot easier to prove/disprove if you had examples. Personally, I think the plots are creative and unique. You really don't ever see anything like it anymore.

2. It's not funny.
I really only have one thing to say to this, and it's I'm sorry that the jokes go over your head. Not meant as an insult, simply a statement.

3. Perry the Platypus is retarded.
I'm sorry, but nothing, not even a talking sponge with square trousers, can beat a crime-fighting platypus in a fedora. Nothing.

For a much better worded defense of this awesome show, I suggest you take a look at this thread:

http://www.tv.com/phineas-and-ferb/show/69897/10-reasons/topic/84395-1231871/msgs.html

Maybe then you will have a different opinion, or can at least respect both shows.

General eeemeee, out!

I guess if you don't like a show. then don't watch it. I use to like Spongebob, until the quality went dowm the toilet with the recent episodes........no, I don't find what he does interesting anymore, so I abandoned watching the show, and found "Phineas and Ferb" to a better liking to replace my interests. Some of us "Phineas and Ferb" fans were also fans of the show "SpongeBob Squarepants", and I think one of ther creators of "Phineas and Ferb" was also the creator of Sponebob, so in a way, the two shows DO have something in common, oter than what has already been mentioned.

I don't find the antics, of a sponge and a starfish amusing anymore, unfortiunately........but the antics of two boys who are trying to make the most of summer vacation.......that I can dig. I guess SquidRob, it is a matter of taste or prefence. I did use to like the show when it was funny........in fact, it was one of my favorites on Nickleoden......I still find the show's intro funny. But I respect your opinion and hope that maybe we can come to an understanding and compromise that both shows have thier good things and faults, but this whole thread/debate behind us and enjoy our respective shows as if this never happened. I respect your opinion, as much as I disagree with it.

Edited on 02/02/2009 9:10pm

I guess if you don't like a show. then don't watch it. I use to like Spongebob, until the quality went dowm the toilet with the recent episodes........no, I don't find what he does interesting anymore, so I abandoned watching the show, and found "Phineas and Ferb" to a better liking to replace my interests. Some of us "Phineas and Ferb" fans were also fans of the show "SpongeBob Squarepants", and I think one of ther creators of "Phineas and Ferb" was also the creator of Sponebob, so in a way, the two shows DO have something in common, oter than what has already been mentioned.

I don't find the antics, of a sponge and a starfish with a idiot crab, that "immorally" cares about money amusing anymore (sorry, but with what is going on in the world, I hate greedy people, including Mr. Crabs)........but the antics of two boys who are trying to make the most of summer vacation.......that I can dig. I guess SquidRob, it is a matter of taste or prefence. I did use to like the show when it was funny........in fact, it was one of my favorites on Nickleoden......I still find the show's intro funny. But I respect your opinion and hope that maybe we can come to an understanding and compromise that both shows have thier good things and faults, but this whole thread/debate behind us and enjoy our respective shows as if this never happened.

Everyone has thier own preferences to what they like qand dislike. As they say, "to each to thier own". Again, I respect your opinion, even if you don't like our show.

EDIT: I do agree that the quality of the show, Spongebob Squarepants has gone down........I wish I could help you guys there.

Edited on 02/02/2009 9:17pm

Not a problem at all! I still watch the show on occasion.......I swear to you the older episodes are better. I have to watch them versus the new ones. I was reading through the forum and see threads about how the quality has gone down. Ouch. Maybe you guys should start a letter writing campaign asking the writers/produces as to what is going on with that. Just an idea.

Guess I should clarify that I was not in any way trying to force you to like the show, or whatever, and that I am not in any way, shape, or form trying to restart any wars. I accept that you have your opinion and I have mine, but, like any person, I like to express my opinion, and I enjoy a good debate.

It purely for those reasons that I feel compelled to counter your counters. REPEAT, I AM NOT TRYING TO SPARK ANY WARS, FLAMES, OR DEROGATORY AND NEGATIVE MATERIAL IN GENERAL. All I'm doing is debating, and I am staying within limits of the truce.

1. May I point out that a talking sponge that lives in a pineapple under the sea is just as non-realistic as Phineas and Ferb's adventures? I do take into account your point that no plot is original anymore, because so much has been done. I do think, however, that PaF is as original as you can get.

2. All right, people do have different senses of humor. I personally have laughed my head off at every single PaF episode I have watched. But I do acknowledge that PaF's jokes are very subtle. Some people, like me, find the subtlety makes it even more hilarious. Others, like you, don't, and I'll respect that.

3. This kinda fits in with above. Different preferences, different senses of humor. Although I'd like to clarify that Rufus and Perry are nothing alike, so really Perry hasn't been done before.

I'll say it once again, I am in no way trying to continue any wars. All I'm doing is peacefully debating. (That's what this thread was intended for, wasn't it?) I'm glad that we've come to some sort of truce, and I think all the PaF fans are willing to agree to disagree. (Although we might need a straightjacket for Roy.

And speaking of Roy, I love the new title he gave me- "general assistant voice insufferable awesome eeemeee"

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Welcome to Roy's post of counter-bringiton to your counter debates. Prepare for lashings, or skip right over to the next post, because I spare no prisoners, not "forcing" the show upon you, but this was asking for it, so if you read this and get upset you have NO excuse, whatsoever, I've warned you.
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1. As eeemeee said, of course, two boys doing stuff ultra advanced for their age, how can we believe that? We should stick to the entirely possible adventures of a talking sea sponge, starfish, squid and Texan squirrel that has moved underwater because......*blank* that all live under the ocean and the main character lives in a pineapple, working at a burger restaurant oh god, have to stop, the brain juice is getting to close to the keyboard. So, are you saying that because it's got human beings in it, it has to be realistic or else it's not a good show? It's a cartoon, the main point of which is to be unrealistic, just like a cheerleader that is able to save the world because she's a cheerleader (way to explain that one, Disney) a magical dragon living in NYC and speaking in horrible hip-hop lingo (have to agree with Hayley on that one, from the episode where they switched bodies) and kids that seem to be the only customers of a faceless corporation that just up and replaces any person in the world at these children's request (Well that just EPIC FAIL-ed anyway). Also, I do believe they are very original, can you name a single other cartoon for me in all of TV history that has had people promoting the aglet? Didn't think so.

2. Four episodes, well done on attempting to watch intelligent humour that clearly went right over your head, obviously saying it went over your head is too much to type, so you and every other person who gives a bad review of the show just decided to say "dumb" and be done with it, maybe it's because it's back at the roots of cartoon humour, back before cartoonists realised making a show in which the main character learns a lesson through some wacky means was an El Dorado of the cartoon world, only problem is when so much gold is found, it all becomes worth the same, nothing, while the good humour is actually now the under-appreciated, yet much better substance. Tell me, do you also find Looney Tunes dumb because Bugs Bunny was smart in every cartoon he was in and defeated the antagonist in a hilarious and intelligent way?

3. I shouldn't go on about anything to do with Kim Possible, with you saying "he did plenty to help Kim and Ron." I could go into a whole other subject of debate about how Kim is absolutely pathetic and useless without Ron and/or Rufus, you can fill over a season with the episodes that have had her and/or Ron only escape because Rufus cut them out, hell, in the movie Rufus got them out AND saved the world, Kim does nothing but fight against Shego and more often than not, lose because she doesn't know when to just shut up and fight the damn bad guy! (NOW I need that straightjacket, I really should stop right now)

Well, at least I have a reason to start using my brain for something apart from writing or running the fan club...

What exactly do you mean by 'just because' and what do you mean 'for now' you'll leave me alone??? I just don't like Phineas and Ferb or Disney. I have no interest in the two. And I don't think I'll be watching Disney once I turn 14 or 15. I just don't like it. Sorry.

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