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Zuko's Date: Theories

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    Zukosocute

    [41]Sep 29, 2006
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    i need link for commercial of tales of ba sing se!!!!!
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    qweasdzse

    [42]Sep 29, 2006
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    I have already seen her and she's a new character. But I hope she is a one time only thing.

    You people and your silly ships. You just give more chances for the creators to trick you with completely small detais that people blow into portion t6o create another new ship out of nowhere.

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    Rin-tori

    [43]Sep 29, 2006
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    Seriously. That whole Jin thing was retarded. She's a Mary-Sue, and a very boring one at that. Personally I think she's just an added flourish. I saw that coming last episode when Iroh was like, "In case someone brings home a lady friend." I was totally up on the foreshadowing.
    When I saw the stupid kiss scene, I threw up a little. No joke. I'm tired of seeing great, developed characters being raped by Mary-Sues!
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    Torizzllle

    [44]Sep 29, 2006
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    Rin-tori wrote:
    Seriously. That whole Jin thing was retarded. She's a Mary-Sue, and a very boring one at that. Personally I think she's just an added flourish. I saw that coming last episode when Iroh was like, "In case someone brings home a lady friend." I was totally up on the foreshadowing.
    When I saw the stupid kiss scene, I threw up a little. No joke. I'm tired of seeing great, developed characters being raped by Mary-Sues!

    omg i loved it
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    Rin-tori

    [45]Sep 29, 2006
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    Torizzllle wrote:
    Rin-tori wrote:
    Seriously. That whole Jin thing was retarded. She's a Mary-Sue, and a very boring one at that. Personally I think she's just an added flourish. I saw that coming last episode when Iroh was like, "In case someone brings home a lady friend." I was totally up on the foreshadowing.
    When I saw the stupid kiss scene, I threw up a little. No joke. I'm tired of seeing great, developed characters being raped by Mary-Sues!

    omg i loved it

    ...

    Perhaps I should remind you, she's a useless character with no flaws to begin with and is only a romantic-side plot that provokes Zuko's angst...

    AND HE WAS SUCH A WELL DEVELOPED CHARACTER, TOO!! ZUKO IS BEING RAPED BY A SUE!! D:
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    Rin-tori

    [46]Sep 29, 2006
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    Rin-tori wrote:
    Torizzllle wrote:
    Rin-tori wrote:
    Seriously. That whole Jin thing was retarded. She's a Mary-Sue, and a very boring one at that. Personally I think she's just an added flourish. I saw that coming last episode when Iroh was like, "In case someone brings home a lady friend." I was totally up on the foreshadowing.
    When I saw the stupid kiss scene, I threw up a little. No joke. I'm tired of seeing great, developed characters being raped by Mary-Sues!

    omg i loved it

    ...

    Perhaps I should remind you, she's a useless character with no flaws to begin with and is only a romantic-side plot that provokes Zuko's angst...

    AND HE WAS SUCH A WELL DEVELOPED CHARACTER, TOO!! ZUKO IS BEING RAPED BY A SUE!! D:


    Hey, that rhymed. o_o
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    thndrbndr

    [47]Sep 29, 2006
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    How the hell was that girl a Mary Stu, She wasnt perfect at all, She was Sloppy , a Messy eater and way to fast moving for?? first date, Other then that she didnt seem that much different then a regular girl. Zuko wasnt Anst anyways, he just knew he couldnt be with an Earth kingdom girl even if he liked her
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    Rin-tori

    [48]Sep 29, 2006
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    thndrbndr wrote:
    How the hell was that girl a Mary Stu, She wasnt perfect at all, She was Sloppy , a Messy eater and way to fast moving for?? first date, Other then that she didnt seem that much different then a regular girl. Zuko wasnt Anst anyways, he just knew he couldnt be with an Earth kingdom girl even if he liked her


    Which qualifies as angst, thank you.
    She's not a sloppy eater. She's the typical Mary-Sue from head to toe. I've seen them all from Fanfiction.net to Quizilla, and there are far too many. She is the stereotypical Mary-Sue who has a romantic involvement with one of the main characters, has no potential plot-related flaws, and exists only to fufill (stupid spell check) her goal. Woo Zuko, the most developed, well-made character of the whole series.
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    sixpinkcat

    [49]Sep 29, 2006
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    everyone should calm the most who ever she is will be shown for is 3 episodes probably less, she was probably just put in to get people away from zutara or something
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    Rin-tori

    [50]Sep 29, 2006
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    sixpinkcat wrote:
    everyone should calm the most who ever she is will be shown for is 3 episodes probably less, she was probably just put in to get people away from zutara or something

    Probably, but even though I don't like Zutara or get it, it's better than having a friggin' Mary-Sue around to tear away at Zuko's superb character development. Makes me cry just thinking about it.
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    thndrbndr

    [51]Sep 29, 2006
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    We/ve only seen her once, we dont know anything about her flaws or strenghts its not fairto call her a Mary Sue if we dont know her yet, She has No character yet because this is her first ( and probably only) episode and if she doesnt have a character yet then she cant have any flaws
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    Rin-tori

    [52]Sep 29, 2006
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    thndrbndr wrote:
    We/ve only seen her once, we dont know anything about her flaws or strenghts its not fairto call her a Mary Sue if we dont know her yet, She has No character yet because this is her first ( and probably only) episode and if she doesnt have a character yet then she cant have any flaws

    As much as I've seen, and as far as I've judged, she is a flat-out Mary-Sue. No doubt about it.
    All I have to say is that IF she ever comes back I want proof that will change my mind. For now she is my mortal enemy.
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    SatelliteFusion

    [53]Sep 29, 2006
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    I've said this a million times, ZUKO CAN'T BE IN A RELATIONSHIP! IT RUINS HIS CHARACTER!!! There.
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    Rin-tori

    [54]Sep 29, 2006
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    SatelliteFusion wrote:
    I've said this a million times, ZUKO CAN'T BE IN A RELATIONSHIP! IT RUINS HIS CHARACTER!!! There.
    ^^ There we go. Finally some sense!
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    Airawende

    [55]Sep 29, 2006
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    I think she's a Mary Sue simply for the fact that Zuko knew her for, what...all of a few hours? By the end of the date, she kisses him, and he kisses her back. Ummm...any fanfiction I've read with a Mary Sue always ends up like that. The girl knows Zuko a short time and is able to break him out of a shell that took years to create, in only a matter of hours. Granted, she was sloppy, but so what? That doesn't change my view of her.
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    Rin-tori

    [56]Sep 29, 2006
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    Airawende wrote:
    I think she's a Mary Sue simply for the fact that Zuko knew her for, what...all of a few hours? By the end of the date, she kisses him, and he kisses her back. Ummm...any fanfiction I've read with a Mary Sue always ends up like that. The girl knows Zuko a short time and is able to break him out of a shell that took years to create, in only a matter of hours. Granted, she was sloppy, but so what? That doesn't change my view of her.

    She's a Mary-Sue, and that ruins the character development built so carefully over 30+ episodes. He's too good a character to be smashed to pieces by such a perfect character. Until I see some proof she isn't, she is by all means a Mary-Sue and doesn't belong in a relationship with Zuko. Creators, I thought you were above this!
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    Rin-tori

    [57]Sep 29, 2006
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    *sighs* *Man, how troublesome...* *acts like Shikamaru*
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    Airawende

    [58]Sep 29, 2006
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    Rin-tori wrote:
    Airawende wrote:
    I think she's a Mary Sue simply for the fact that Zuko knew her for, what...all of a few hours? By the end of the date, she kisses him, and he kisses her back. Ummm...any fanfiction I've read with a Mary Sue always ends up like that. The girl knows Zuko a short time and is able to break him out of a shell that took years to create, in only a matter of hours. Granted, she was sloppy, but so what? That doesn't change my view of her.
    She's a Mary-Sue, and that ruins the character development built so carefully over 30+ episodes. He's too good a character to be smashed to pieces by such a perfect character. Until I see some proof she isn't, she is by all means a Mary-Sue and doesn't belong in a relationship with Zuko. Creators, I thought you were above this!

    I'm with you. I was sitting watching the episode thinking, "C'mon! Zuko doesn't act like that to anybody, let alone a girl he's known one day!" My only hope is she doesn't come back

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    Fronzel

    [59]Sep 29, 2006
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    Aw, did you pwecious angsty pants character actually get to enjoy himself? What an injustice!

    Zuko's growth as a character is leading to him becoming more balanced and stable...he was obsessive and enraged all of season 1, if you remember. This is just another step down that road.

    She's a nice girl. I hope she has at least a token second appearance.

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    Rin-tori

    [60]Sep 29, 2006
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    Fronzel wrote:

    Aw, did you pwecious angsty pants character actually get to enjoy himself? What an injustice!

    Zuko's growth as a character is leading to him becoming more balanced and stable...he was obsessive and enraged all of season 1, if you remember. This is just another step down that road.

    She's a nice girl. I hope she has at least a token second appearance.


    She may be nice, but that's just it! She's too perfect. Zuko is too good for someone with so few character flaws. And if she does have any, it might just be so that Zuko can comfort her! So many ways to become a Mary-Sue. Creators, I am disappointed.
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