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Who do you think will teach aang firebending?

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    Shard2005

    [141]Oct 3, 2006
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    JonathonWolf wrote:
    misterham wrote:
    i still think that iroh would be better. he's a better firebender and has better patience, which is needed in teaching. he can also do lightning, something zuko is not yet able to do.

    why is azula the only firebender with blue fire. does that mean she's a better firebender or just has more power. cause i always thought iroh was a better firebender than she is but his fire is orange.


    I don't think this is overtly discussed in the show.?? Blue fire burns hotter than red or orange.?? You can see the effects of this when Azula sets something on fire, and the flame goes from blue to red.?? I would guess that either the blue flame suggests that she is putting more energy into it or she is using more focus.?? Many firebenders can probably make blue flame, but they might consider it a waste of effort when a regular flame will usually get the same result.?? She probably does it all the time to show her superiority and perfection.?? You can also notice that she has never used fire breath, so that might be a technique Zuko has mastered that she hasn't.?? It seems like Azula masters each move to perfection and then moves to the next where Iroh trains Zuko to get a good enough technique to learn the next set and has him practice everything all the time.

    The blue fire only means that the temperature is so hot it consumes it's feul completely. However, that temp has to be maintained, or else they will cool down into the yellow, orange, and red flames. When the flames cool down, it will consume peice by peice. Cool flames are not as lethal as blue and white ones. The color of Azula's fire just shows how merciless she is.
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    BiSheng

    [142]Oct 4, 2006
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    The possibilities that have gained some acceptance so far are these five: Jeong Jeong, Iroh, Zuko, Azula, or a new character. Here are the pros and cons raised so far to each one (with some of my own thrown in):

    1) Jeong Jeong:
    Pros: unarguably has mastered his element, already has a master student relationship with Aang; the creators wouldn't have created the character if they didn't intend to show him more than once (arguable).
    Cons: He's old, and every member of the Gaang is in the 12-15 range (if he joined he would inevitably try to become the leader of the Gaang as the only adult); he's a one-shot character who was only in a single episode and was never seen again (arguable); Aang and the Gaang do not have time to go searching for a firebending teacher when they don't know were he is since they only have 20 episodes left after this season; eh is too powerful, his addition will make it impossible to present sufficient challenges to the Gaang.
    Chance: 5%


    2) Iroh:
    Pros: Single most knowledgeable firebender to appear in Avatar, baring Roku who is dead, and understands his element including how to generate and deflect lightning and (presumably) blue fire; he is subservient to Zuko's wishes, meaning that if he joined the Gaang he wouldn't try to take over; his character is one of the most popular on the show, allowing him to join the Gaang would give him more screen time; he is for balance in the world, which is what the Avatar is ultimately about
    Cons: He is outside the age range of the Gaang (12-15), so younger viewers would be unlikely to relate to him; there has been some foreshadowing that his character is going to die (debatable); he is too wise and powerful, his addition to the would add so much power and knowledge of the inner workings of the Fire Nation as to make it to small a challenge to defeat it
    Chance: 20%

    3) Zuko:
    Pros: One of the most powerful firebenders shown (able to defeat Zhao, Katara, many professional and elite soldiers, and others), surpassed by only Jeong Jeong, Iroh, Roku, and Azula (and her old crone teachers); foreshadowing in many episodes, especially "The Blue Spirit"; slowly coming into opposition of the Fire Nation (from heir apparent, to exile, to dispossessed, to fugitive, to ...); in the proper age range (same age as Sokka); one of the most popular characters on the show, and with comparable screen time to Aang
    Cons: Does not represent his element/has no special knowledge of firebending/can't create lightning/isn't a master bender (all basically the same reason); loyalty to the Firenation/pride will not allow him to teach Aang
    Chance: 60%

    4)Azula:
    Pros: Master firebender, one of the best in the show, only one shown definitively able to create blue fire; in the proper age range to join the gang (younger than Sokka); is in the opening credits with Master Pakku, the male version of Toph, and what appears to be Aang or another airbending monk who are all good guy's
    Cons: Single most loyal character to Ozai; doesn't care about anyone (see recruitment of Ty-Lee) or her own safety (see the conclusion to The Chase) and would therefore be difficult to convince to join the Gaang (also she is psychotic and evil); if she joined the Gaang so would Ty-Lee and Mai which would eliminate the opposing group to the Gaang, and make the Gaang very powerful, too powerful for the Fire Nation to likely be able to stop; her personality is such that she would demand that she lead the Gaang
    Chance: 5% (being generous)

    5) New Character:
    Pros: The new character has the possibility of having all the pros listed above, except those related to popularity; The creators have done it before with Toph, so they could do it again
    Cons: little time left to establish and integrate a new character; it's been done, and is therefore unlikely to occur again (Avatar's writers are not that lazy)
    Chance: 5%

    6) Aang doesn't learn firebending at all (anymore than he already has from Jeong Jeong):
    Pros: He said he would never firebend again; little time remains for him to learn to firebend, and defeat the fire nation
    Cons: The Avatar is supposed to master all four elements; it would be difficult to defeat the Firelord without mastering all four bending arts; especially if he runs out of time and has to defeat the Firelord when the comet comes (if Aang knows firebending, his skill in that is increased with all the other firebenders)
    Chance: 5%

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    pmgandrews

    [143]Oct 4, 2006
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    zukone wrote:
    I don't care how many times you want to sing it, I don't think he is a master. Let's just say that Zuko is reary reary good at firebending. If your argument is that he is a master, then there are a few other issues that do not make him an ideal choice to teach Aang.

    1. Zuko is not a master. Oh wait. I already said that we should consider that he is.

    2. Zuko doesn't seem to have a special bond with his element. His other teachers do. Katara, since the beginning, has been enamored with water bending, always seeking to learn more about it as a part of her heritage. It was something she revered and nurtured. King Bumi instructed Aang to find someone with that sort of bond (not in those words exactly). Toph ended up being that person. I don't think I need to explain why, in too many details, save to say that the earth is how she sees. How deeper in tune does it get? Conversely, Zuko's interest in fire bending, as of yet, is not for the bending itself or for understanding the element- it has been for power and pride.

    3. This second point goes with the previous one. Just because you know a lot does not mean that you will make a good teacher. Just walk into most college level math classes and you find out soon enough. There are geniuses without a clue as to how to convey the meaning of what is on the frickin' syllabus. To teach, you have to understand and have the understanding of how that gift is absorbed. Toph, though rough, began to bend (in her teaching method) towards Aang's learning style. Katara, herself, seems to be a natural teacher. Zuko and teacher do not seem to meet. He is still a student (of many things).

    Jeong Jeong makes a more ideal teacher with life lessons learned and a deep understanding of the element. There's no freakin' way I would want Zuko to teach me. With my previous points made, I'd like to conclude and say that I think being a master is more than just being able to bend quite fancy. If it is, then being Aang's teacher requires more than just that. If the outcome turns out another way, so be it. To me, it doesn't make sense for his teacher to be Zuko.

    Zuko has proven himself to be superior to Jeong Jeong in terms of skill already. He's defeaten Zhao twice, Yet Jeong Jeong was clearly afraid he'd lose a fight against Zhao when he arrived.

    1. Toph isn't a master either, seeing as how no master ever gave her the title.

    Zuko has fought and defeaten a Fire Master (Zhao), while he was injured and weakened to boot.

    So his skill is quite clearly on a Masters level.

    2. What bond could he have with fire besides power and pride, seeing as how its stated by Jeong Jeong to be a purely destructive element. In fact based on this, Jeong Jeong is even less qualified, seeing as how he actaully hated Fire bending and wished he was a Water Bender instead, because Fire brings death, yet Water brings life.

    And Katara's interest was based on the fact that she was the only Water Bender of her tribe, so of course she'd be curious to learn more. Had she had a teacher for years, like Zuko had Iroh, then who knows how interested she'd still be.

    3. Zuko Alone showed Zuko is quite capable of teaching a Kid how to use swords. So if he sets his Pride aside (which he's clearly slowly doing), then he can teach Aang too.

    Toph wasn't a good teacher either, she was more a drill seargent then a mentor.

    How did Jeong Jeong make a good teacher, Aang just got impatient, and look at his last student, Zhao, who had little control over his Fire Bending.

    Doubt Jeong Jeong will ever return anyway, he was most likely??only added as a way to introduce Katara's healing ability and give Aang a fear of Fire Bending (Just like he had a mental block with Earth Bending.)

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    zukone

    [144]Oct 4, 2006
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    pmgandrews wrote:

    zukone wrote:
    I don't care how many times you want to sing it, I don't think he is a master. Let's just say that Zuko is reary reary good at firebending. If your argument is that he is a master, then there are a few other issues that do not make him an ideal choice to teach Aang.

    1. Zuko is not a master. Oh wait. I already said that we should consider that he is.

    2. Zuko doesn't seem to have a special bond with his element. His other teachers do. Katara, since the beginning, has been enamored with water bending, always seeking to learn more about it as a part of her heritage. It was something she revered and nurtured. King Bumi instructed Aang to find someone with that sort of bond (not in those words exactly). Toph ended up being that person. I don't think I need to explain why, in too many details, save to say that the earth is how she sees. How deeper in tune does it get? Conversely, Zuko's interest in fire bending, as of yet, is not for the bending itself or for understanding the element- it has been for power and pride.

    3. This second point goes with the previous one. Just because you know a lot does not mean that you will make a good teacher. Just walk into most college level math classes and you find out soon enough. There are geniuses without a clue as to how to convey the meaning of what is on the frickin' syllabus. To teach, you have to understand and have the understanding of how that gift is absorbed. Toph, though rough, began to bend (in her teaching method) towards Aang's learning style. Katara, herself, seems to be a natural teacher. Zuko and teacher do not seem to meet. He is still a student (of many things).

    Jeong Jeong makes a more ideal teacher with life lessons learned and a deep understanding of the element. There's no freakin' way I would want Zuko to teach me. With my previous points made, I'd like to conclude and say that I think being a master is more than just being able to bend quite fancy. If it is, then being Aang's teacher requires more than just that. If the outcome turns out another way, so be it. To me, it doesn't make sense for his teacher to be Zuko.

    Zuko has proven himself to be superior to Jeong Jeong in terms of skill already. He's defeaten Zhao twice, Yet Jeong Jeong was clearly afraid he'd lose a fight against Zhao when he arrived.

    1. Toph isn't a master either, seeing as how no master ever gave her the title.

    Zuko has fought and defeaten a Fire Master (Zhao), while he was injured and weakened to boot.

    So his skill is quite clearly on a Masters level.

    2. What bond could he have with fire besides power and pride, seeing as how its stated by Jeong Jeong to be a purely destructive element. In fact based on this, Jeong Jeong is even less qualified, seeing as how he actaully hated Fire bending and wished he was a Water Bender instead, because Fire brings death, yet Water brings life.

    And Katara's interest was based on the fact that she was the only Water Bender of her tribe, so of course she'd be curious to learn more. Had she had a teacher for years, like Zuko had Iroh, then who knows how interested she'd still be.

    3. Zuko Alone showed Zuko is quite capable of teaching a Kid how to use swords. So if he sets his Pride aside (which he's clearly slowly doing), then he can teach Aang too.

    Toph wasn't a good teacher either, she was more a drill seargent then a mentor.

    How did Jeong Jeong make a good teacher, Aang just got impatient, and look at his last student, Zhao, who had little control over his Fire Bending.

    Doubt Jeong Jeong will ever return anyway, he was most likely only added as a way to introduce Katara's healing ability and give Aang a fear of Fire Bending (Just like he had a mental block with Earth Bending.)



    You make interesting points. Your irreverence for Jeong Jeong is disheartening, but then again, who wants to be reverent to a cartoon? I am going to address what I know and why I still hold my opinion.

    Toph, although not seen as a master, is clearly one. However, if you want to go with the point that she isn't one, she at least has that bond with the earth.

    Your point that Toph was a drill sargeant I give to you. However, note, as I said before, that she began to adjust to his learning style. Yeah yeah, I am aware that Zuko might be able to do the same thing. To me, his pride is an issue and would get in the way of teaching Aang (at least for right now).

    Your point about Katara doesn't make sense to bring up. Yes, environment can shape attitude, but so what if the environment caused her to like waterbending. It ain't her fault that Zuko's firebending influences weren't wiped out. My tendency is to believe she would still have that same love for manipulating water if her environment had been filled with other waterbenders.

    Zuko Alone showed Zuko quite capable of teaching NON-bending fighting-maybe. I thought the point of that was that he was trying to teach pride. Furthermore, there really is no measure as to how good a teacher he was. His student didn't last long enough to show his ability. For firebending itself, as far as I see, his understanding is not refined.

    Your points about Jeong Jeong not being a good teacher because his students had their own personalities is just silly. That same argument makes Zuko a horrible teacher. I can blame Zuko for that kid rejecting him and say, well if he was a good teacher that kid would have known how stand up for himself, handle a sword, and not be so stubborn. Really, how much water would that hold?

    Aang was impatient at the time. That had nothing to do with Jeong Jeong. In fact Jeong wasn't supposed to teach him, but, like a good teacher, he allowed Aang to learn from his own mistakes. From this Aang was able to understand the Avatar cycle and its purpose better. He learned his lesson well.

    Zhaos personality is what caused him to have little control over his firebending. Again, this is not Jeong???s fault. Let's go to the Zuko beat Zhao twice argument. Zuko may not have had to have been that wonderful of a firebender to beat him. Zhao's impatience was his hindrance, and with Zuko's many run-ins with him, Zuko could have figured that out. Even if he hadn???t figured it out, there are other reasons why Zuko could have won. The first time Zuko beat him, he had a personal coach. To me that doesn't even count. To boot, he was told to go back to BASICS. HAH.

    Zuko has a brilliant fighting sense. That, coupled with his firebending, is what makes him so powerful. It may not necessarily be that his firebending is awesome, he just fuses it with his overall fighting style. This is a good combination to beat Zhao. (This is also why I think he was able to beat Katara previously. She doesn't have that same fighting sense.)

    So it stands, even if Jeong Jeong was shaking in his boots, he may very well still be much better at firebending. I still hold that he is a good teacher.

    P.S. I think there was a plurality of reasons for Jeong Jeong to leave. Also, thank you for your reply. Again, you made some interesting points.
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    zachman9393

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    Well, I think it's gonna be 1 or more of 3 characters:

    1.?? Zuko:?? Since his father, well, just plain hates him, and he and Iroh are now outcasts, it is my belief that he would be more than happy to help Aang defeat his horrible father.?? Also, he is one of the most powerful Firebenders around.?? 20% chance

    2.?? Iroh:?? Has already shown more kindness to the Gaang than any Firebender, other than possibly Jeong Jeong.?? He is an outcast too, and we can tell that, deep down at least, he repents the Fire Nation's cruel ways, and sort of hates the very idea of war itself, since his boy Lu Ten was killed in one.????Possibly the most powerful Firebender other than Roku (dead) or possibly Ozai.?? 70% chance

    3.?? Aang's Fire Nation buddy:?? I think this guy might somehow still be alive, and teach Aang Firebending.?? 10% chance

    I exclude jeong Jeong because he was a oneshot guy, and we don't really have any emotional attatchment to him.

    Oh, here's my list of the Firebenders in levels of power, in my opinion:

    Level 1:?? Avatar Roku, Ozai, Iroh (his Lightning bendig abilities, that apparently not even Roku or Ozai have, put him up here: he is naturally powerful; his "extra" abilities, and looking beyond his own element make him an even better bender)

    Level 2:?? Azula, Jeong Jeong

    (Azula would be up there with Iroh and Ozai, but although she can use blue fire, which it seems not even Ozai, Roku, or Iroh can do, her lack of wisdom weakens her considerably as a Bender)

    Level 3:?? Zuko

    I know, Zhao isn't even on the list.?? That's cuz he sucked.?? I mean, even Zuko managed, at leat once, to hurt Aang at least a bit in a straight-out battle.?? Zhao never managed to even scratch the little guy in a Bending battle against him.

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    kris_arlens

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    you know that firebender in the theme song? that's azula. the waterbender is pakku, and the earthbender was the original version of toph. she was originally supposed to be a dude, but... anyways, pakku taught aang waterbending(though it is now katar's job), toph taught aang earthbending, and as much as i hate to say it, azula is the only non-aang persong left in the theme song, so she might teach aang firebending. don't get me wrong, i want it to be zuko or iroh, but... man, now i'm sad. and this whole message started with me rewatching tales of ba sing se to prove to my friend that aang's hair does not look like an old man's.
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    BiSheng

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    kris_arlens wrote:
    you know that firebender in the theme song? that's azula. the waterbender is pakku, and the earthbender was the original version of toph. she was originally supposed to be a dude, but... anyways, pakku taught aang waterbending(though it is now katar's job), toph taught aang earthbending, and as much as i hate to say it, azula is the only non-aang persong left in the theme song, so she might teach aang firebending. don't get me wrong, i want it to be zuko or iroh, but... man, now i'm sad. and this whole message started with me rewatching tales of ba sing se to prove to my friend that aang's hair does not look like an old man's.
    Look up about four posts, under Azula.
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    misterham

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    BiSheng wrote:
    The possibilities that have gained some acceptance so far are these five: Jeong Jeong, Iroh, Zuko, Azula, or a new character. Here are the pros and cons raised so far to each one (with some of my own thrown in):

    1) Jeong Jeong:
    Pros: unarguably has mastered his element, already has a master student relationship with Aang; the creators wouldn't have created the character if they didn't intend to show him more than once (arguable).
    Cons: He's old, and every member of the Gaang is in the 12-15 range (if he joined he would inevitably try to become the leader of the Gaang as the only adult); he's a one-shot character who was only in a single episode and was never seen again (arguable); Aang and the Gaang do not have time to go searching for a firebending teacher when they don't know were he is since they only have 20 episodes left after this season; eh is too powerful, his addition will make it impossible to present sufficient challenges to the Gaang.
    Chance: 5%


    2) Iroh:
    Pros: Single most knowledgeable firebender to appear in Avatar, baring Roku who is dead, and understands his element including how to generate and deflect lightning and (presumably) blue fire; he is subservient to Zuko's wishes, meaning that if he joined the Gaang he wouldn't try to take over; his character is one of the most popular on the show, allowing him to join the Gaang would give him more screen time; he is for balance in the world, which is what the Avatar is ultimately about
    Cons: He is outside the age range of the Gaang (12-15), so younger viewers would be unlikely to relate to him; there has been some foreshadowing that his character is going to die (debatable); he is too wise and powerful, his addition to the would add so much power and knowledge of the inner workings of the Fire Nation as to make it to small a challenge to defeat it
    Chance: 20%

    3) Zuko:
    Pros: One of the most powerful firebenders shown (able to defeat Zhao, Katara, many professional and elite soldiers, and others), surpassed by only Jeong Jeong, Iroh, Roku, and Azula (and her old crone teachers); foreshadowing in many episodes, especially "The Blue Spirit"; slowly coming into opposition of the Fire Nation (from heir apparent, to exile, to dispossessed, to fugitive, to ...); in the proper age range (same age as Sokka); one of the most popular characters on the show, and with comparable screen time to Aang
    Cons: Does not represent his element/has no special knowledge of firebending/can't create lightning/isn't a master bender (all basically the same reason); loyalty to the Firenation/pride will not allow him to teach Aang
    Chance: 60%

    4)Azula:
    Pros: Master firebender, one of the best in the show, only one shown definitively able to create blue fire; in the proper age range to join the gang (younger than Sokka); is in the opening credits with Master Pakku, the male version of Toph, and what appears to be Aang or another airbending monk who are all good guy's
    Cons: Single most loyal character to Ozai; doesn't care about anyone (see recruitment of Ty-Lee) or her own safety (see the conclusion to The Chase) and would therefore be difficult to convince to join the Gaang (also she is psychotic and evil); if she joined the Gaang so would Ty-Lee and Mai which would eliminate the opposing group to the Gaang, and make the Gaang very powerful, too powerful for the Fire Nation to likely be able to stop; her personality is such that she would demand that she lead the Gaang
    Chance: 5% (being generous)

    5) New Character:
    Pros: The new character has the possibility of having all the pros listed above, except those related to popularity; The creators have done it before with Toph, so they could do it again
    Cons: little time left to establish and integrate a new character; it's been done, and is therefore unlikely to occur again (Avatar's writers are not that lazy)
    Chance: 5%

    6) Aang doesn't learn firebending at all (anymore than he already has from Jeong Jeong):
    Pros: He said he would never firebend again; little time remains for him to learn to firebend, and defeat the fire nation
    Cons: The Avatar is supposed to master all four elements; it would be difficult to defeat the Firelord without mastering all four bending arts; especially if he runs out of time and has to defeat the Firelord when the comet comes (if Aang knows firebending, his skill in that is increased with all the other firebenders)
    Chance: 5%


    well first, zuko is not better than katara

    second, they can teach aang how to firebend without joining their gang.

    and azula teaching aang how to firebend is .00000001 or less

    personally, i think jeong jeong or iroh will teach aang. they are better firebanders than zuko and have more patience. they also have experience in teaching. zuko just doesn't seem like the teaching type, although he does have time to change
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    BiSheng

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    misterham wrote:
    BiSheng wrote:
    The possibilities that have gained some acceptance so far are these five: Jeong Jeong, Iroh, Zuko, Azula, or a new character. Here are the pros and cons raised so far to each one (with some of my own thrown in):

    1) Jeong Jeong:
    Pros: unarguably has mastered his element, already has a master student relationship with Aang; the creators wouldn't have created the character if they didn't intend to show him more than once (arguable).
    Cons: He's old, and every member of the Gaang is in the 12-15 range (if he joined he would inevitably try to become the leader of the Gaang as the only adult); he's a one-shot character who was only in a single episode and was never seen again (arguable); Aang and the Gaang do not have time to go searching for a firebending teacher when they don't know were he is since they only have 20 episodes left after this season; eh is too powerful, his addition will make it impossible to present sufficient challenges to the Gaang.
    Chance: 5%


    2) Iroh:
    Pros: Single most knowledgeable firebender to appear in Avatar, baring Roku who is dead, and understands his element including how to generate and deflect lightning and (presumably) blue fire; he is subservient to Zuko's wishes, meaning that if he joined the Gaang he wouldn't try to take over; his character is one of the most popular on the show, allowing him to join the Gaang would give him more screen time; he is for balance in the world, which is what the Avatar is ultimately about
    Cons: He is outside the age range of the Gaang (12-15), so younger viewers would be unlikely to relate to him; there has been some foreshadowing that his character is going to die (debatable); he is too wise and powerful, his addition to the would add so much power and knowledge of the inner workings of the Fire Nation as to make it to small a challenge to defeat it
    Chance: 20%

    3) Zuko:
    Pros: One of the most powerful firebenders shown (able to defeat Zhao, Katara, many professional and elite soldiers, and others), surpassed by only Jeong Jeong, Iroh, Roku, and Azula (and her old crone teachers); foreshadowing in many episodes, especially "The Blue Spirit"; slowly coming into opposition of the Fire Nation (from heir apparent, to exile, to dispossessed, to fugitive, to ...); in the proper age range (same age as Sokka); one of the most popular characters on the show, and with comparable screen time to Aang
    Cons: Does not represent his element/has no special knowledge of firebending/can't create lightning/isn't a master bender (all basically the same reason); loyalty to the Firenation/pride will not allow him to teach Aang
    Chance: 60%

    4)Azula:
    Pros: Master firebender, one of the best in the show, only one shown definitively able to create blue fire; in the proper age range to join the gang (younger than Sokka); is in the opening credits with Master Pakku, the male version of Toph, and what appears to be Aang or another airbending monk who are all good guy's
    Cons: Single most loyal character to Ozai; doesn't care about anyone (see recruitment of Ty-Lee) or her own safety (see the conclusion to The Chase) and would therefore be difficult to convince to join the Gaang (also she is psychotic and evil); if she joined the Gaang so would Ty-Lee and Mai which would eliminate the opposing group to the Gaang, and make the Gaang very powerful, too powerful for the Fire Nation to likely be able to stop; her personality is such that she would demand that she lead the Gaang
    Chance: 5% (being generous)

    5) New Character:
    Pros: The new character has the possibility of having all the pros listed above, except those related to popularity; The creators have done it before with Toph, so they could do it again
    Cons: little time left to establish and integrate a new character; it's been done, and is therefore unlikely to occur again (Avatar's writers are not that lazy)
    Chance: 5%

    6) Aang doesn't learn firebending at all (anymore than he already has from Jeong Jeong):
    Pros: He said he would never firebend again; little time remains for him to learn to firebend, and defeat the fire nation
    Cons: The Avatar is supposed to master all four elements; it would be difficult to defeat the Firelord without mastering all four bending arts; especially if he runs out of time and has to defeat the Firelord when the comet comes (if Aang knows firebending, his skill in that is increased with all the other firebenders)
    Chance: 5%


    well first, zuko is not better than katara

    second, they can teach aang how to firebend without joining their gang.

    and azula teaching aang how to firebend is .00000001 or less

    personally, i think jeong jeong or iroh will teach aang. they are better firebanders than zuko and have more patience. they also have experience in teaching. zuko just doesn't seem like the teaching type, although he does have time to change
    The Gaang just has the summer to teach Aang Firebending, and then they must stop the Firelord. In order to stop the firelord, they are either going to need a large army, or they are going to have to infiltrate the firenation. In either case the limited amount of time they have left means that Aang's firebending teacher will have to travel with the Gaang, since it would be impossible to teach Aang firebending in just a few days (he's still learning waterbending).

    And the only reason I gave Azula such a high score is because of her popularity.
    Edited on 10/04/2006 4:04pm
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    misterham

    [150]Oct 4, 2006
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    they could always learn it in one place. they're not obligated to travel around unless toph finds someone chasing them
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    wrecklass

    [151]Oct 4, 2006
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    You guys have got it all wrong. The person who will teach Aang firebending is Johnny Storm. Of course, this is after Marvel Entertainment acquires Nickelodeon and the Fantastic Four join Avatar.

    Either that or Zuko.
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    zukone

    [152]Oct 7, 2006
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    thatguy1991 wrote:
    Problem is is that sometimes the writers will do extremely obvious things and personally I have tended to get mad at them for awhile afterwards.

    On a side note this is focused on firebending, but how about lightening how will Aang do with that and does Aang know how to heal with water bending and is there a variant for air and earth that we haven't seen yet (sorry for the irrelevance of that last statement)


    I'm so sick of lightening it isn't even funny. I would definately like to see something new with air. That would be (pun intended) a breath of fresh air.
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    masterofaeons

    [153]Oct 7, 2006
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    If there was something hidden in Airbending, Aang already knows it. Aang has confirmed himself as an Airbending Master.
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    zukone

    [154]Oct 7, 2006
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    masterofaeons wrote:
    If there was something hidden in Airbending, Aang already knows it. Aang has confirmed himself as an Airbending Master.


    He might be a master, but that doesn't mean he knows everything. The water benders in the forest found a new use for bending probably unknown to other waterbending masters.

    I know.?? He can master the subtle art of breaking wind.
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    shadowcloud86

    [155]Oct 8, 2006
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    probably it'll be a rogue firebender that'll join the group and help them through the fire nation..not hinting that its zuko or Iroh because it very well could be, just a firebender that doesn't side with the fire lord
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