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    horse_crazy217

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    But Azula will go crazy =D In some of the previews for the finale, there are scenes of her looking completely mad. That's why we're all jumping on the fact that she's going mad. and are some of the pictures that depict Azula's insanity.

    We only have two scenes in which Azula is looking absolutly wild. As Katara proved in this episode, just because you have several scenes in which you look evil-insane, it doesn't mean that you're like that all the time. I'm not saying that Azula isn't about to go absolutely wild (I'm looking forward to it far too much), but she will maintain her cunning, tactical genius, etc, in short, the things that make fights involving her so fun! Indeed, her new insanity may even prove beneficial for her. Firebending can be fueled by strong emotions and a strong drive. From the looks of things, Azula's emotions are nothing if not strong now, she has definitely developed a strong drive to kill Zuko. Azula's obsession with getting rid of Zuko all began when she decided that her mother liked Zuko better than her. It makes sense that that obsession will ultimatly come full circle back to it's begining.
    But the sad thing is is that her anger won't help her. Bending lightening is a difficult task, and being so out of balance and filled with hatred with make it impossible to bend. The sad truth is she'll just be left with firebending. But when Azula goes crazy, she goes CRAZY. A couple of scenes like that means much more when they're of Azula then any other character. Any sort of slip in self control with Azula shows that she has some serious problems to deal with.

    if you watch the season finale preview again and somewhere in the middle you see her turn around and her hair falling out of the bun and her eyes are all wide opened and crap...look nuts to me, lol. but still sad...

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    13avatar13

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    DarkJediJCer wrote:

    Speaking of bloodbending, Zuko's face when he saw it in action was priceless.

    Katara: *BLOODBENDING PWNAGE*

    Zuko: Photobucket

    lol
    I know. That was a great part of this episode. Zuko's face looks like he's thinking whether or not he sould've brought Katara to do this. It's like he's thinking, "I thought she was rational and kept her cool? What is THIS!?" Purely terrifying.
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    Raikiri1103

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    suss2it wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    But Azula will go crazy =D In some of the previews for the finale, there are scenes of her looking completely mad. That's why we're all jumping on the fact that she's going mad. and are some of the pictures that depict Azula's insanity.

    We only have two scenes in which Azula is looking absolutly wild. As Katara proved in this episode, just because you have several scenes in which you look evil-insane, it doesn't mean that you're like that all the time. I'm not saying that Azula isn't about to go absolutely wild (I'm looking forward to it far too much), but she will maintain her cunning, tactical genius, etc, in short, the things that make fights involving her so fun! Indeed, her new insanity may even prove beneficial for her. Firebending can be fueled by strong emotions and a strong drive. From the looks of things, Azula's emotions are nothing if not strong now, she has definitely developed a strong drive to kill Zuko. Azula's obsession with getting rid of Zuko all began when she decided that her mother liked Zuko better than her. It makes sense that that obsession will ultimatly come full circle back to it's begining.
    Do you think a crazy Azula still has the focus to create lightning?

    Personally I do, and crazy person who can fire lightning = dangerous MF.

    Raikiri1103 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    EIP HQ 2 min preview.


    But I saw one seven minutes long.
    But it wasn't HQ, and it had screaming fangirls.


    Well.......nevermind, I dont want to post too much in this forum, I might get a TOS or suspension.
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    suss2it

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    Did anybody realize how flawed the poll is? What if you didn't like the episode that much?
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    Axrendale

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    But Azula will go crazy =D In some of the previews for the finale, there are scenes of her looking completely mad. That's why we're all jumping on the fact that she's going mad. and are some of the pictures that depict Azula's insanity.

    We only have two scenes in which Azula is looking absolutly wild. As Katara proved in this episode, just because you have several scenes in which you look evil-insane, it doesn't mean that you're like that all the time. I'm not saying that Azula isn't about to go absolutely wild (I'm looking forward to it far too much), but she will maintain her cunning, tactical genius, etc, in short, the things that make fights involving her so fun! Indeed, her new insanity may even prove beneficial for her. Firebending can be fueled by strong emotions and a strong drive. From the looks of things, Azula's emotions are nothing if not strong now, she has definitely developed a strong drive to kill Zuko. Azula's obsession with getting rid of Zuko all began when she decided that her mother liked Zuko better than her. It makes sense that that obsession will ultimatly come full circle back to it's begining.
    But the sad thing is is that her anger won't help her. Bending lightening is a difficult task, and being so out of balance and filled with hatred with make it impossible to bend. The sad truth is she'll just be left with firebending. But when Azula goes crazy, she goes CRAZY. A couple of scenes like that means much more when they're of Azula then any other character. Any sort of slip in self control with Azula shows that she has some serious problems to deal with.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnJusfXT8wg

    Watch this. It clearly shows that Azula will use lightning in her final battle with Zuko. As you said, bending lightning is a tricky process, so we know that Azula is going to retain enough sanity to accomplish this task.

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    DarkJediJCer

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    suss2it wrote:
    Did anybody realize how flawed the poll is? What if you didn't like the episode that much?


    *shrugs* Apparently if you don't like the episode you don't belong in this thread.
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    isabelwhatx

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    13avatar13 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:

    Speaking of bloodbending, Zuko's face when he saw it in action was priceless.

    Katara: *BLOODBENDING PWNAGE*

    Zuko: Photobucket

    lol
    I know. That was a great part of this episode. Zuko's face looks like he's thinking whether or not he sould've brought Katara to do this. It's like he's thinking, "I thought she was rational and kept her cool? What is THIS!?" Purely terrifying.

    Lol. Well, that must've been a surprise. He probably didn't even know what was happening. If someone did that next to me, I'd be like, "WTF YO?!" Ahaha. And then run away screaming, of course =]
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    Another long post full of win. But Azula does go batsh*t insane if you watch the trailers. I agree about not killing her mom's murderer, but I just wish that she smacked him around a bit more before she decided he wasn't worth it.
    Too true about the smacking around. I regret that that didn't happen. I would've loved to see more blood bending, personally.
    But, but you can't bloodbend a Costanza type character. It would be overkill. Him being a Costanza is revenge enough.
    Edited on 07/17/2008 9:48pm
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    DarkJediJCer

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    13avatar13 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:

    Speaking of bloodbending, Zuko's face when he saw it in action was priceless.

    Katara: *BLOODBENDING PWNAGE*

    Zuko: Photobucket

    lol
    I know. That was a great part of this episode. Zuko's face looks like he's thinking whether or not he sould've brought Katara to do this. It's like he's thinking, "I thought she was rational and kept her cool? What is THIS!?" Purely terrifying.


    Haha yeah. I would keep my distance from someone if I saw them do that. Zuko probably doesn't know that you can only do that with the full moon out, so he might be extra careful about not getting her angry. XP
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    isabelwhatx

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    Axrendale wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    But Azula will go crazy =D In some of the previews for the finale, there are scenes of her looking completely mad. That's why we're all jumping on the fact that she's going mad. and are some of the pictures that depict Azula's insanity.

    We only have two scenes in which Azula is looking absolutly wild. As Katara proved in this episode, just because you have several scenes in which you look evil-insane, it doesn't mean that you're like that all the time. I'm not saying that Azula isn't about to go absolutely wild (I'm looking forward to it far too much), but she will maintain her cunning, tactical genius, etc, in short, the things that make fights involving her so fun! Indeed, her new insanity may even prove beneficial for her. Firebending can be fueled by strong emotions and a strong drive. From the looks of things, Azula's emotions are nothing if not strong now, she has definitely developed a strong drive to kill Zuko. Azula's obsession with getting rid of Zuko all began when she decided that her mother liked Zuko better than her. It makes sense that that obsession will ultimatly come full circle back to it's begining.
    But the sad thing is is that her anger won't help her. Bending lightening is a difficult task, and being so out of balance and filled with hatred with make it impossible to bend. The sad truth is she'll just be left with firebending. But when Azula goes crazy, she goes CRAZY. A couple of scenes like that means much more when they're of Azula then any other character. Any sort of slip in self control with Azula shows that she has some serious problems to deal with.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnJusfXT8wg

    Watch this. It clearly shows that Azula will use lightning in her final battle with Zuko. As you said, bending lightning is a tricky process, so we know that Azula is going to retain enough sanity to accomplish this task.

    Hm, that's strange. Btw, that trailer was insane =D I wonder what's going to happen, then? Because she certainly looked out of control when she was bending, anyway.
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    Axrendale wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    But Azula will go crazy =D In some of the previews for the finale, there are scenes of her looking completely mad. That's why we're all jumping on the fact that she's going mad. and are some of the pictures that depict Azula's insanity.

    We only have two scenes in which Azula is looking absolutly wild. As Katara proved in this episode, just because you have several scenes in which you look evil-insane, it doesn't mean that you're like that all the time. I'm not saying that Azula isn't about to go absolutely wild (I'm looking forward to it far too much), but she will maintain her cunning, tactical genius, etc, in short, the things that make fights involving her so fun! Indeed, her new insanity may even prove beneficial for her. Firebending can be fueled by strong emotions and a strong drive. From the looks of things, Azula's emotions are nothing if not strong now, she has definitely developed a strong drive to kill Zuko. Azula's obsession with getting rid of Zuko all began when she decided that her mother liked Zuko better than her. It makes sense that that obsession will ultimatly come full circle back to it's begining.
    But the sad thing is is that her anger won't help her. Bending lightening is a difficult task, and being so out of balance and filled with hatred with make it impossible to bend. The sad truth is she'll just be left with firebending. But when Azula goes crazy, she goes CRAZY. A couple of scenes like that means much more when they're of Azula then any other character. Any sort of slip in self control with Azula shows that she has some serious problems to deal with.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnJusfXT8wg

    Watch this. It clearly shows that Azula will use lightning in her final battle with Zuko. As you said, bending lightning is a tricky process, so we know that Azula is going to retain enough sanity to accomplish this task.

    EDIT:

    Here's a better quality one.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=iMqRK358wWw

    It has all three character specific commercials on it. The Zuko/Azula one where she bends lightning is at the end.

    Edited on 07/17/2008 9:48pm
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    13avatar13 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:

    Speaking of bloodbending, Zuko's face when he saw it in action was priceless.

    Katara: *BLOODBENDING PWNAGE*

    Zuko: Photobucket

    lol
    I know. That was a great part of this episode. Zuko's face looks like he's thinking whether or not he sould've brought Katara to do this. It's like he's thinking, "I thought she was rational and kept her cool? What is THIS!?" Purely terrifying.
    Lol. Well, that must've been a surprise. He probably didn't even know what was happening. If someone did that next to me, I'd be like, "WTF YO?!" Ahaha. And then run away screaming, of course =]
    but you couldn't run away if someone was bending your blood...MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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    Axrendale wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    But Azula will go crazy =D In some of the previews for the finale, there are scenes of her looking completely mad. That's why we're all jumping on the fact that she's going mad. and are some of the pictures that depict Azula's insanity.

    We only have two scenes in which Azula is looking absolutly wild. As Katara proved in this episode, just because you have several scenes in which you look evil-insane, it doesn't mean that you're like that all the time. I'm not saying that Azula isn't about to go absolutely wild (I'm looking forward to it far too much), but she will maintain her cunning, tactical genius, etc, in short, the things that make fights involving her so fun! Indeed, her new insanity may even prove beneficial for her. Firebending can be fueled by strong emotions and a strong drive. From the looks of things, Azula's emotions are nothing if not strong now, she has definitely developed a strong drive to kill Zuko. Azula's obsession with getting rid of Zuko all began when she decided that her mother liked Zuko better than her. It makes sense that that obsession will ultimatly come full circle back to it's begining.
    But the sad thing is is that her anger won't help her. Bending lightening is a difficult task, and being so out of balance and filled with hatred with make it impossible to bend. The sad truth is she'll just be left with firebending. But when Azula goes crazy, she goes CRAZY. A couple of scenes like that means much more when they're of Azula then any other character. Any sort of slip in self control with Azula shows that she has some serious problems to deal with.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnJusfXT8wg

    Watch this. It clearly shows that Azula will use lightning in her final battle with Zuko. As you said, bending lightning is a tricky process, so we know that Azula is going to retain enough sanity to accomplish this task.

    EDIT:

    Here's a better quality one.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=iMqRK358wWw

    It has all three charcter specific commercials on it. The Zuko/Azul one where she bends lightning is at the end.


    "...but I had no idea how close we'd become."?
    Are they trying to appeal to Kataangers again? XD
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    horse_crazy217

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    Axrendale wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    But Azula will go crazy =D In some of the previews for the finale, there are scenes of her looking completely mad. That's why we're all jumping on the fact that she's going mad. and are some of the pictures that depict Azula's insanity.

    We only have two scenes in which Azula is looking absolutly wild. As Katara proved in this episode, just because you have several scenes in which you look evil-insane, it doesn't mean that you're like that all the time. I'm not saying that Azula isn't about to go absolutely wild (I'm looking forward to it far too much), but she will maintain her cunning, tactical genius, etc, in short, the things that make fights involving her so fun! Indeed, her new insanity may even prove beneficial for her. Firebending can be fueled by strong emotions and a strong drive. From the looks of things, Azula's emotions are nothing if not strong now, she has definitely developed a strong drive to kill Zuko. Azula's obsession with getting rid of Zuko all began when she decided that her mother liked Zuko better than her. It makes sense that that obsession will ultimatly come full circle back to it's begining.
    But the sad thing is is that her anger won't help her. Bending lightening is a difficult task, and being so out of balance and filled with hatred with make it impossible to bend. The sad truth is she'll just be left with firebending. But when Azula goes crazy, she goes CRAZY. A couple of scenes like that means much more when they're of Azula then any other character. Any sort of slip in self control with Azula shows that she has some serious problems to deal with.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnJusfXT8wg

    Watch this. It clearly shows that Azula will use lightning in her final battle with Zuko. As you said, bending lightning is a tricky process, so we know that Azula is going to retain enough sanity to accomplish this task.

    omg, she called him aang...and this is random but i like it how she still calls him her "brother"

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    Unless you talk to her about "certain" stuff to distract her?
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    isabelwhatx

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    13avatar13 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    13avatar13 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:

    Speaking of bloodbending, Zuko's face when he saw it in action was priceless.

    Katara: *BLOODBENDING PWNAGE*

    Zuko: Photobucket

    lol
    I know. That was a great part of this episode. Zuko's face looks like he's thinking whether or not he sould've brought Katara to do this. It's like he's thinking, "I thought she was rational and kept her cool? What is THIS!?" Purely terrifying.
    Lol. Well, that must've been a surprise. He probably didn't even know what was happening. If someone did that next to me, I'd be like, "WTF YO?!" Ahaha. And then run away screaming, of course =]
    but you couldn't run away if someone was bending your blood...MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    Lmao. Well, there's that too...
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    I and my friends have come to the conclusion that this episode was extremely rushed. It was fast paced (the beginning was great even if the fight came quickly) but then it immediately jumped to a new plot line... Something totally different. Zuko and Katara's "field trip" though action packed and fast still felt rushed. I'll organize my thoughts once my new episode frenzy rush wears down a bit.

    The creators said it'd be intense and a "tear-jerke". If the flashbacks were handled better and we saw more of the significance of Katara's relationship with her mother, then it would've induced a bit more tearbending. I had highish expectations for this episode based on what I heard/read from the creators. Moar tomorrow.

    I'd give it a 7/10 rating. The pacing really killed it for me. The flashbacks also weren't what they could've been and I'm basing them off of Zuko Alone and other minor flashbacks or memories. I liked it though but I won't find myself watching this episode for the sake of being entertained. Rather, watching certain scenes (Zuko-Azula fight for example) and dialogue (the Air Nomad wisdom for example).

    Edited on 07/17/2008 9:58pm
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    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    But Azula will go crazy =D In some of the previews for the finale, there are scenes of her looking completely mad. That's why we're all jumping on the fact that she's going mad. and are some of the pictures that depict Azula's insanity.

    We only have two scenes in which Azula is looking absolutly wild. As Katara proved in this episode, just because you have several scenes in which you look evil-insane, it doesn't mean that you're like that all the time. I'm not saying that Azula isn't about to go absolutely wild (I'm looking forward to it far too much), but she will maintain her cunning, tactical genius, etc, in short, the things that make fights involving her so fun! Indeed, her new insanity may even prove beneficial for her. Firebending can be fueled by strong emotions and a strong drive. From the looks of things, Azula's emotions are nothing if not strong now, she has definitely developed a strong drive to kill Zuko. Azula's obsession with getting rid of Zuko all began when she decided that her mother liked Zuko better than her. It makes sense that that obsession will ultimatly come full circle back to it's begining.
    But the sad thing is is that her anger won't help her. Bending lightening is a difficult task, and being so out of balance and filled with hatred with make it impossible to bend. The sad truth is she'll just be left with firebending. But when Azula goes crazy, she goes CRAZY. A couple of scenes like that means much more when they're of Azula then any other character. Any sort of slip in self control with Azula shows that she has some serious problems to deal with.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnJusfXT8wg

    Watch this. It clearly shows that Azula will use lightning in her final battle with Zuko. As you said, bending lightning is a tricky process, so we know that Azula is going to retain enough sanity to accomplish this task.

    EDIT:

    Here's a better quality one.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=iMqRK358wWw

    It has all three charcter specific commercials on it. The Zuko/Azul one where she bends lightning is at the end.


    "...but I had no idea how close we'd become."?
    Are they trying to appeal to Kataangers again? XD

    I think they pretty much just confirmed that Kataang will live on. I honestly think that Zutara is in the minds of the foolish. I don't want to start a war here, but even though there are small things that supports Zutara, there are larger things that support Kataang. Zutara would've been epic, though =]
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    isabelwhatx

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    PsychoPass wrote:
    I and my friends have come to the conclusion that this episode was extremely rushed. It was fast paced (the beginning was great even if the fight came quickly) but then it immediately jumped to a new plot line... Something totally different. Zuko and Katara's "field trip" though action packed and fast still felt rushed. I'll organize my thoughts once my new episode frenzy rush wears down a bit. The creators said it'd be intense and a "tear-jerke". If the flashbacks were handled better and we saw more of the significance of Katara's relationship with her mother, then it would've induced a bit more tearbending. Moar tomorrow.

    I'd give it a 7/10 rating. The pacing really killed it for me. The flashbacks also weren't what they could've been and I'm basing them off of Zuko Alone and other minor flashbacks or memories. I liked it though but I won't find myself watching this episode for the sake of being entertained. Rather, watching certain scenes (Zuko-Azula fight for example) and dialogue (the Air Nomad wisdom for example).

    I agree on the rushed part. That was really the only problem for me. I think this episode had much more potential than TBR and should've been given the hour long slot. The fight in the beginning was a bit unnecessary but it showed Azula's insanity leaking through. They should've focused less on the beginning and more at the end. IF everything was developed a little more it would've been a home run. But, I definitely think this was one of the better episodes in Avatar history. Call me crazy =]
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    Jakelong630

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    Does anyone have the recap for TSR?
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