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The REAL Truth about Azula.

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    High00Lord

    [1261]Nov 17, 2007
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    rockalanche_foo wrote:
    toasterM wrote:
    Azula's father only cares about her 'cause she's a firebending masta.


    I second that--Ozai's whole thing about Azula being born lucky and Zuko being lucky to be born? I don't know, but if he was so set on catching the Avatar, wouldn't he have sent Azula before he banished Zuko? I don't know, it's all sorta twisted.


    Ozai didn't send Azula before because Zuko discovered the Avatar. Sozin, Azulon, and Ozai all went on voyages looking for the Avatar for an entire century. Ozai didn't send Azula because he had no reason to believe that the Avatar had returned until Zuko found him.
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    raienbrasa

    [1262]Nov 18, 2007
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    *points to thread title* As opposed to the fake truth?

    (This might have already been asked but I'm not reading through 1200 posts. Sry.)

    Edited on 11/18/2007 9:51am
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    Tanyeera

    [1263]Jun 11, 2008
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    Azula seems to have been born a sociopath. In other words, she can't really empathize with people, though she can predict their reactions in order to manipulate them. If you gave Azula a hug, and had something she wanted, she would most likely take advantage of your kindness and assumptions about her and manipulate you into giving her whatever it was she wanted from you, even if that included your life, your family, or your soul. And when she was done, she would either kill you, to tie up a loose end, or take no further notice of you and simply leave you lying around like worthless trash. If you hugged her and she didn't want anything from you, she would probably still act nice since its always useful to have an extra pawn around.

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    xRamensx

    [1264]Jun 11, 2008
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    Tanyeera wrote:

    Azula seems to have been born a sociopath. In other words, she can't really empathize with people, though she can predict their reactions in order to manipulate them. If you gave Azula a hug, and had something she wanted, she would most likely take advantage of your kindness and assumptions about her and manipulate you into giving her whatever it was she wanted from you, even if that included your life, your family, or your soul. And when she was done, she would either kill you, to tie up a loose end, or take no further notice of you and simply leave you lying around like worthless trash. If you hugged her and she didn't want anything from you, she would probably still act nice since its always useful to have an extra pawn around.

    You said the exact same thing in that other Azula thread.

    But I don't think Azula is a born sociopath. The youngest we saw her was 9, and Ozai had already corrupted her. He knew she was a prodigy, and since his only son couldn't do simple Fire Bending, he used her perfectionist nature against her.

    Besides, if Azula gave me hug; I wouldn't care what she's after. :3

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    tomtitan

    [1265]Jun 11, 2008
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    xRamensx wrote:
    You said the exact same thing in that other Azula thread.
    Not to mention that s/he necroed both threads to say the same thing.
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    Tanyeera

    [1266]Jun 11, 2008
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    I'm sorry. I didn't mean to. And I didn't say the exact same thing at each thread. What does necroed mean?

    And it doesn't seem to me like Ozai is responsible for the 'not really able to empathize with people' part of Azula's personality. He might have trained perfection and arrogance into her, as well as possibly sadism, but how exactly would he have corrupted her to the extent that she has such poor social skills? That part of her seems inherent.

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    SilverFlames

    [1267]Jun 11, 2008
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    Necro means to post or "bump" a thread that's been gone for a long time. (Note, the start of this thread was in 2006?)

    And Necroing is also wrong.
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    Spacerac

    [1268]Jun 11, 2008
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    Tanyeera, we all commend you for adding insightful discussion about Azula.
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    PsychoPass

    [1269]Jun 11, 2008
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    Tanyeera wrote:

    I'm sorry. I didn't mean to. And I didn't say the exact same thing at each thread. What does necroed mean?

    And it doesn't seem to me like Ozai is responsible for the 'not really able to empathize with people' part of Azula's personality. He might have trained perfection and arrogance into her, as well as possibly sadism, but how exactly would he have corrupted her to the extent that she has such poor social skills? That part of her seems inherent.



    I'm not so sure... When Azula has tried to be sociable (unless "all those times" were just ruses and lies which... well, I'm still trying to figure that out) she kind of fails at it. I'm almost certain she has "srs bsns" on the mind. I'm no Azula but I can relate to those bad social skills. I know how to talk to someone; you open your mouth, use your lungs to push air past your vocal chords, and utilize your lips and tongue to manipulate the different tones into words. But beyond that I'm pretty dweeby and nerdish. Most often, I have "serious business" on my mind and that gets in the way of simply being sociable. Inherently bad social skills probably exist but knowing how to talk to someone I believe is something you learn. I've never really put a focus on that. Who knows what's up with Azula though. But bad socializing skills is most likely cause by her never really caring for it.


    I actually like necro'ed threads about certain topics that still have discussion left in them. I've always looked at forums and posts as 'permanent' recordings of a conversation so they can be referenced to for future conversations. It's nice having large threads like this as databases per-say for certain discussions.


    Yes, I'm that much of a gerd.
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    MaddoKos

    [1270]Jun 11, 2008
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    SilverFlames wrote:
    Necro means to post or "bump" a thread that's been gone for a long time. (Note, the start of this thread was in 2006?)

    And Necroing is also wrong.


    So, this thread is what? Undead?
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    xRamensx

    [1271]Jun 11, 2008
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    MaddoKos wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    Necro means to post or "bump" a thread that's been gone for a long time. (Note, the start of this thread was in 2006?) And Necroing is also wrong.
    So, this thread is what? Undead?

    Osnap! Load your rifles everyone!

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    MaddoKos

    [1272]Jun 11, 2008
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    xRamensx wrote:

    MaddoKos wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    Necro means to post or "bump" a thread that's been gone for a long time. (Note, the start of this thread was in 2006?) And Necroing is also wrong.
    So, this thread is what? Undead?

    Osnap! Load your rifles everyone!


    And remember people, only headshots will kill it!
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    Spacerac

    [1273]Jun 11, 2008
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    xRamensx wrote:

    MaddoKos wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    Necro means to post or "bump" a thread that's been gone for a long time. (Note, the start of this thread was in 2006?) And Necroing is also wrong.
    So, this thread is what? Undead?

    Osnap! Load your rifles everyone!
    Ramens! Love the new, er, um, Avatar.
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    xRamensx

    [1274]Jun 11, 2008
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    Spacerac wrote:
    xRamensx wrote:

    MaddoKos wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    Necro means to post or "bump" a thread that's been gone for a long time. (Note, the start of this thread was in 2006?) And Necroing is also wrong.
    So, this thread is what? Undead?

    Osnap! Load your rifles everyone!
    Ramens! Love the new, er, um, Avatar.

    Thanks. Gotta love Azulol.

    lol i c wut u did thar.

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    Spacerac

    [1275]Jun 11, 2008
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    xRamensx wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    xRamensx wrote:

    MaddoKos wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    Necro means to post or "bump" a thread that's been gone for a long time. (Note, the start of this thread was in 2006?) And Necroing is also wrong.
    So, this thread is what? Undead?

    Osnap! Load your rifles everyone!
    Ramens! Love the new, er, um, Avatar.

    Thanks. Gotta love Azulol.

    lol i c wut u did thar.
    lawl, And i c wat u did thur.
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    xRamensx

    [1276]Jun 11, 2008
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    Spacerac wrote:
    xRamensx wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    xRamensx wrote:

    MaddoKos wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    Necro means to post or "bump" a thread that's been gone for a long time. (Note, the start of this thread was in 2006?) And Necroing is also wrong.
    So, this thread is what? Undead?

    Osnap! Load your rifles everyone!
    Ramens! Love the new, er, um, Avatar.

    Thanks. Gotta love Azulol.

    lol i c wut u did thar.
    lawl, And i c wat u did thur.

    I was looking at my icon, then your's. And it kinda looks like Azula is going to eat Sokka's head. D:

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    Spacerac

    [1277]Jun 11, 2008
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    xRamensx wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    xRamensx wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    xRamensx wrote:

    MaddoKos wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    Necro means to post or "bump" a thread that's been gone for a long time. (Note, the start of this thread was in 2006?) And Necroing is also wrong.
    So, this thread is what? Undead?

    Osnap! Load your rifles everyone!
    Ramens! Love the new, er, um, Avatar.

    Thanks. Gotta love Azulol.

    lol i c wut u did thar.
    lawl, And i c wat u did thur.

    I was looking at my icon, then your's. And it kinda looks like Azula is going to eat Sokka's head. D:
    That's not all she'd eat.
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    xRamensx

    [1278]Jun 11, 2008
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    Spacerac wrote:
    xRamensx wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    xRamensx wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    xRamensx wrote:

    MaddoKos wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    Necro means to post or "bump" a thread that's been gone for a long time. (Note, the start of this thread was in 2006?) And Necroing is also wrong.
    So, this thread is what? Undead?

    Osnap! Load your rifles everyone!
    Ramens! Love the new, er, um, Avatar.

    Thanks. Gotta love Azulol.

    lol i c wut u did thar.
    lawl, And i c wat u did thur.

    I was looking at my icon, then your's. And it kinda looks like Azula is going to eat Sokka's head. D:
    That's not all she'd eat.

    She must be hungry then, ;D

    Omnomnom!

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    picaboomman

    [1279]Jun 11, 2008
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    so many necroeing these days
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    Tanyeera

    [1280]Jun 12, 2008
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    Ok... I apologise for necroing.

    And thanks Spacerac.

    Psychopass, actually, when I made that post, it was more of an argument about whether or not Azula is a born sociopath or if Ozai is the one responsible for turning her into who she is. I thought she was born that way, born with this inability to really empathize or connect with people. Thus, poor social skills. However nerdy or 'serious business' thinking a person may be, I still doubt their social skills would be worse than someone who literally can't feel for other people.

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