Nickelodeon (ended 2008)
Was I the only one rooting on Azula being able to forgive Mai and... even tylee too?
Seriously I thought their friendship was more than that. I truely thought we'd see a softer side of Azula on that one. That she really didn't deep down want her brother to die and that those two being the only friends she has, she'd be more willing to "let things slide".
I really didn't want to see the group broken up like this, but I guess the show is winding down and the only way topple such a strong Queen as Azula is to take away her support beams.
I still hope they reconsider everything. Azula's decision seemed harsh and made out of anger, anyone think she'll reconsider?
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Yeah, it's a psychological thing that will have a cascading affect on her abilites and emotions. What I don't understand though is why she's venting that frustration at Ursa. Perhaps she was imagining Ursa calling her a "monster" or something, and Azula will think that her unstable state of mind is causing her to be nothing more but a monster. Maybe Ursa was taunting her, saying that she will never be anything but a monster, whe will never be a normal person, amplified by the fact that she is royalty and maybe the firelord.
tc2r wrote: |
Was I the only one rooting on Azula being able to forgive Mai and... even tylee too? Seriously I thought their friendship was more than that. I truely thought we'd see a softer side of Azula on that one. That she really didn't deep down want her brother to die and that those two being the only friends she has, she'd be more willing to "let things slide".
I really didn't want to see the group broken up like this, but I guess the show is winding down and the only way topple such a strong Queen as Azula is to take away her support beams. I still hope they reconsider everything. Azula's decision seemed harsh and made out of anger, anyone think she'll reconsider? |
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I don't think so... she was defeated and humiliated, and as far as she's concerned Mai and Ty Lee are traitors of the worst kind. I just REALLY hope we'll see Mai and Ty Lee one more time before the end.
tc2r wrote: |
Was I the only one rooting on Azula being able to forgive Mai and... even tylee too? Seriously I thought their friendship was more than that. I truely thought we'd see a softer side of Azula on that one. That she really didn't deep down want her brother to die and that those two being the only friends she has, she'd be more willing to "let things slide".
I really didn't want to see the group broken up like this, but I guess the show is winding down and the only way topple such a strong Queen as Azula is to take away her support beams. I still hope they reconsider everything. Azula's decision seemed harsh and made out of anger, anyone think she'll reconsider? |
Azula thinks everything through. She plans everything and thinks of every possbile outcome. But I don't think that Azula would have ever thought that Mai and Ty Lee would go aganist her. And I think that this is going to cause a metnal break down.
Before it didn't seem like Azula let her self feel any emotions, she had one slip at the beach, but she caught herslef. Now after this I don't think she is going to be able to control her emotions any more.
Blue_Spirit_524 wrote: |
Azula thinks everything through. She plans everything and thinks of every possbile outcome. But I don't think that Azula would have ever thought that Mai and Ty Lee would go aganist her. And I think that this is going to cause a metnal break down. Before it didn't seem like Azula let her self feel any emotions, she had one slip at the beach, but she caught herslef. Now after this I don't think she is going to be able to control her emotions any more. |
tc2r wrote: |
Was I the only one rooting on Azula being able to forgive Mai and... even tylee too? Seriously I thought their friendship was more than that. I truely thought we'd see a softer side of Azula on that one. |
Remember this is Azula we are talking about. She is Ozai's daugther, remember what Iroh has said about Ozai, he is not the forgiving and understanding type, Azula inherited that trait.
The problem with Azula is, everyone has to agree with her, or else that person is labeled a traitor, another trait she inherited from Ozai. But I do think they being Mai, Ty Lee, Zuko, Ursa, they all do love her, they hate the person she is, but they don't hate her. There is a way to hate the type of person someone is, but still love and care about them at the same time.
nyfan wrote: |
Remember this is Azula we are talking about. She is Ozai's daugther, remember what Iroh has said about Ozai, he is not the forgiving and understanding type, Azula inherited that trait. The problem with Azula is, everyone has to agree with her, or else that person is labeled a traitor, another trait she inherited from Ozai. But I do think they being Mai, Ty Lee, Zuko, Ursa, they all do love her, they hate the person she is, but they don't hate her. There is a way to hate the type of person someone is, but still love and care about them at the same time. |
Madness? THIS IS SPARTA!
Seriously I think she is going be more crazier then Sokka on catus juice.
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Hmm maybe. It's a good theory. I still don't get why Azula spared their lives and just gave Ty Lee and Mai imprisonment when she could have killed them once the effect wore off; or even why not have them killed. |
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Maybe the it's the censorship. I mean why didn't Ozia kill Iroh?
It's sad for Azula because it isn't her fault that she was raised by a egotistical and power-hungry father, Zuko would have turned out the same if they switched places. It would be awesome if both could be redeemed in some way, instead of just Zuko because he was fortunate enough to be raised by good and kind people like his mom and uncle.
I think Azula will realize that power isn't enough like his dad imprinted on her..
I never saw a friendship there, maybe when they were kids but not later, because she forced Ty Lee to join her, and she ordered them around all the time. She knew Mai had feelings for Zuko and hunted his brother anyway, Ty Lee also had some sympathy for Iroh and she said so in one episode. Though it always seemed to me that Azula had more consideration with Ty Lee than with Mai, to the point of saying sorry and admitting she was jealous.
They tolerated her because she's powerful and the princess of their Nation, but Azula never respected them. And when Mai confronted Azula, Ty Lee saw a chance because she couldn't confront her alone, that's why she told her: Come on let's go! Ty Lee acted out of fear, than saving her friend, at least it looks to me.
And well Azula is a perfectionist, telling her "you miscalculated" and "you don't know people as well as you think you do" means "you are not perfect" Mai stroke a lot of nerves there. Alone, she's not perfect as she thinks she is, Ursa's ghost, and Zuko besting her...
Also, did you notice she's not wearing her Royal Crown in this shot in the Trailer? Sorry I can't upload the pic, I tried like 5 times, I found it in www.avatarspirit.net
nyfan wrote: |
Remember this is Azula we are talking about. She is Ozai's daugther, remember what Iroh has said about Ozai, he is not the forgiving and understanding type, Azula inherited that trait. The problem with Azula is, everyone has to agree with her, or else that person is labeled a traitor, another trait she inherited from Ozai. But I do think they being Mai, Ty Lee, Zuko, Ursa, they all do love her, they hate the person she is, but they don't hate her. There is a way to hate the type of person someone is, but still love and care about them at the same time. |
clearly azula is having trouble adjusting to her post-war life as she is frequently attacked by demons and the FN military's conspiracy against her.
PsychoPass wrote: |
Because you don't just KILL the people you've been friends with your entire life. |