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    Axrendale

    [41]Aug 5, 2008
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    Jackson5050 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    Who wins the Azula/Katara fight depends on whether it's day or night.

    I concur with this. Azula and Katara seem to be equal in terms of bending ability, so day/night would be the deciding factor. I should note, however, that from what I have seen from Book Two, Azula seems to have a more difficult time battling against waterbending. An example would be her and Katara during the CoD. Also, when she begins her fight with Aang on top of the drill, her attacks seem to be stunted when Aang is using waterbending. However, I could be wrong because those are only two instances thus making the sample size quite small.

    It should be noted that in the early stages of the CoD fight, Azula was able to easily deflect a number of waterbending attacks that were far more powerful than the one that snared her when she faced off with Katara. Basically, the Katara/Azula fight outcome was a result of Katara using her brains for once. Azula made the mistake of trying to engage Katara in close quarter comabt . Katara knew that Azula's attacks were unstoppable if she was allowed to build them up enough, and so she struck early, snuffling out the attacks while they were still just tiny flames barely out of Azula's fingertips. The reason she was able to do this was because of the extra speed and power she was recieving from the moon. Azula learnt her lesson; when the two next engaged a few minutes later, Azula took care to stay out of range and pommel Katara with powerful long distance attacks. It's funny really - whenever Katara and Azula fight eachother, Azula stops using her brain, while Katara turns ers on. They seem to have a powerful effecton eachother.

    So yeah, the winner of this battle will probably be determined by whether it is night or day.

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    IrohtheTea

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    Axrendale wrote:
    Jackson5050 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    Who wins the Azula/Katara fight depends on whether it's day or night.

    I concur with this. Azula and Katara seem to be equal in terms of bending ability, so day/night would be the deciding factor. I should note, however, that from what I have seen from Book Two, Azula seems to have a more difficult time battling against waterbending. An example would be her and Katara during the CoD. Also, when she begins her fight with Aang on top of the drill, her attacks seem to be stunted when Aang is using waterbending. However, I could be wrong because those are only two instances thus making the sample size quite small.

    It should be noted that in the early stages of the CoD fight, Azula was able to easily deflect a number of waterbending attacks that were far more powerful than the one that snared her when she faced off with Katara. Basically, the Katara/Azula fight outcome was a result of Katara using her brains for once. Azula made the mistake of trying to engage Katara in close quarter comabt . Katara knew that Azula's attacks were unstoppable if she was allowed to build them up enough, and so she struck early, snuffling out the attacks while they were still just tiny flames barely out of Azula's fingertips. The reason she was able to do this was because of the extra speed and power she was recieving from the moon. Azula learnt her lesson; when the two next engaged a few minutes later, Azula took care to stay out of range and pommel Katara with powerful long distance attacks. It's funny really - whenever Katara and Azula fight eachother, Azula stops using her brain, while Katara turns ers on. They seem to have a powerful effecton eachother.

    So yeah, the winner of this battle will probably be determined by whether it is night or day.

    it will be better if it was full moon :]

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    Jackson5050

    [43]Aug 5, 2008
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    Could you imagine Katara bloodbending Azula?! That would be quite interesting to see...well, not anymore.
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    Axrendale

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    Jackson5050 wrote:
    Could you imagine Katara bloodbending Azula?! That would be quite interesting to see...well, not anymore.

    Why not? Just because it's never going to happen doesn't subtract from it's disturbingness. This is of course assuming that Azula doesn't just zap Katara from adistance like she did with Aang.

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    slumshoes

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    IrohtheTea wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    Jackson5050 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    Who wins the Azula/Katara fight depends on whether it's day or night.

    I concur with this. Azula and Katara seem to be equal in terms of bending ability, so day/night would be the deciding factor. I should note, however, that from what I have seen from Book Two, Azula seems to have a more difficult time battling against waterbending. An example would be her and Katara during the CoD. Also, when she begins her fight with Aang on top of the drill, her attacks seem to be stunted when Aang is using waterbending. However, I could be wrong because those are only two instances thus making the sample size quite small.

    It should be noted that in the early stages of the CoD fight, Azula was able to easily deflect a number of waterbending attacks that were far more powerful than the one that snared her when she faced off with Katara. Basically, the Katara/Azula fight outcome was a result of Katara using her brains for once. Azula made the mistake of trying to engage Katara in close quarter comabt . Katara knew that Azula's attacks were unstoppable if she was allowed to build them up enough, and so she struck early, snuffling out the attacks while they were still just tiny flames barely out of Azula's fingertips. The reason she was able to do this was because of the extra speed and power she was recieving from the moon. Azula learnt her lesson; when the two next engaged a few minutes later, Azula took care to stay out of range and pommel Katara with powerful long distance attacks. It's funny really - whenever Katara and Azula fight eachother, Azula stops using her brain, while Katara turns ers on. They seem to have a powerful effecton eachother.

    So yeah, the winner of this battle will probably be determined by whether it is night or day.

    it will be better if it was full moon :]



    I believe Katara could beat anyone during a full moon, may it be Paku, Iroh, Bumi, or the Avatar himself. When Katara gets a hold of your blood, you're GONE.
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    Chaospyro

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    slumshoes wrote:
    IrohtheTea wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    Jackson5050 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    Who wins the Azula/Katara fight depends on whether it's day or night.

    I concur with this. Azula and Katara seem to be equal in terms of bending ability, so day/night would be the deciding factor. I should note, however, that from what I have seen from Book Two, Azula seems to have a more difficult time battling against waterbending. An example would be her and Katara during the CoD. Also, when she begins her fight with Aang on top of the drill, her attacks seem to be stunted when Aang is using waterbending. However, I could be wrong because those are only two instances thus making the sample size quite small.

    It should be noted that in the early stages of the CoD fight, Azula was able to easily deflect a number of waterbending attacks that were far more powerful than the one that snared her when she faced off with Katara. Basically, the Katara/Azula fight outcome was a result of Katara using her brains for once. Azula made the mistake of trying to engage Katara in close quarter comabt . Katara knew that Azula's attacks were unstoppable if she was allowed to build them up enough, and so she struck early, snuffling out the attacks while they were still just tiny flames barely out of Azula's fingertips. The reason she was able to do this was because of the extra speed and power she was recieving from the moon. Azula learnt her lesson; when the two next engaged a few minutes later, Azula took care to stay out of range and pommel Katara with powerful long distance attacks. It's funny really - whenever Katara and Azula fight eachother, Azula stops using her brain, while Katara turns ers on. They seem to have a powerful effecton eachother.

    So yeah, the winner of this battle will probably be determined by whether it is night or day.

    it will be better if it was full moon :]

    I believe Katara could beat anyone during a full moon, may it be Paku, Iroh, Bumi, or the Avatar himself. When Katara gets a hold of your blood, you're GONE.

    But wasn't katara able to resist Hama's blood bending, so it would make sense that other water benders who would gain power during the full moon might also be able to resist it, which includes Paku and Aang. I am not sure if other benders power dictates how much they are susceptible to blood bending.. otherwise blood bending would have absolutely no match.

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    slumshoes

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    Chaospyro wrote:
    slumshoes wrote:
    IrohtheTea wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    Jackson5050 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    Who wins the Azula/Katara fight depends on whether it's day or night.

    I concur with this. Azula and Katara seem to be equal in terms of bending ability, so day/night would be the deciding factor. I should note, however, that from what I have seen from Book Two, Azula seems to have a more difficult time battling against waterbending. An example would be her and Katara during the CoD. Also, when she begins her fight with Aang on top of the drill, her attacks seem to be stunted when Aang is using waterbending. However, I could be wrong because those are only two instances thus making the sample size quite small.

    It should be noted that in the early stages of the CoD fight, Azula was able to easily deflect a number of waterbending attacks that were far more powerful than the one that snared her when she faced off with Katara. Basically, the Katara/Azula fight outcome was a result of Katara using her brains for once. Azula made the mistake of trying to engage Katara in close quarter comabt . Katara knew that Azula's attacks were unstoppable if she was allowed to build them up enough, and so she struck early, snuffling out the attacks while they were still just tiny flames barely out of Azula's fingertips. The reason she was able to do this was because of the extra speed and power she was recieving from the moon. Azula learnt her lesson; when the two next engaged a few minutes later, Azula took care to stay out of range and pommel Katara with powerful long distance attacks. It's funny really - whenever Katara and Azula fight eachother, Azula stops using her brain, while Katara turns ers on. They seem to have a powerful effecton eachother.

    So yeah, the winner of this battle will probably be determined by whether it is night or day.

    it will be better if it was full moon :]

    I believe Katara could beat anyone during a full moon, may it be Paku, Iroh, Bumi, or the Avatar himself. When Katara gets a hold of your blood, you're GONE.

    But wasn't katara able to resist Hama's blood bending, so it would make sense that other water benders who would gain power during the full moon might also be able to resist it, which includes Paku and Aang. I am not sure if other benders power dictates how much they are susceptible to blood bending.. otherwise blood bending would have absolutely no match.



    That is if they know how to bloodbend, which I doubt since Hama invented Bloodbending herself. If Paku and his warriors knew bloodbending then they could have possessed the Firebenders during the Siege of the North, and swiftly won. But you do have a point, between 2 water benders who knows how to bloodbend under the full moon, it all comes down to skill. But knowing Katara, I'm not sure she's willing to teach Aang or anyone the dark art of bloodbending.
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    Chaospyro

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    slumshoes wrote:
    Chaospyro wrote:
    slumshoes wrote:
    IrohtheTea wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    Jackson5050 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    Who wins the Azula/Katara fight depends on whether it's day or night.

    I concur with this. Azula and Katara seem to be equal in terms of bending ability, so day/night would be the deciding factor. I should note, however, that from what I have seen from Book Two, Azula seems to have a more difficult time battling against waterbending. An example would be her and Katara during the CoD. Also, when she begins her fight with Aang on top of the drill, her attacks seem to be stunted when Aang is using waterbending. However, I could be wrong because those are only two instances thus making the sample size quite small.

    It should be noted that in the early stages of the CoD fight, Azula was able to easily deflect a number of waterbending attacks that were far more powerful than the one that snared her when she faced off with Katara. Basically, the Katara/Azula fight outcome was a result of Katara using her brains for once. Azula made the mistake of trying to engage Katara in close quarter comabt . Katara knew that Azula's attacks were unstoppable if she was allowed to build them up enough, and so she struck early, snuffling out the attacks while they were still just tiny flames barely out of Azula's fingertips. The reason she was able to do this was because of the extra speed and power she was recieving from the moon. Azula learnt her lesson; when the two next engaged a few minutes later, Azula took care to stay out of range and pommel Katara with powerful long distance attacks. It's funny really - whenever Katara and Azula fight eachother, Azula stops using her brain, while Katara turns ers on. They seem to have a powerful effecton eachother.

    So yeah, the winner of this battle will probably be determined by whether it is night or day.

    it will be better if it was full moon :]

    I believe Katara could beat anyone during a full moon, may it be Paku, Iroh, Bumi, or the Avatar himself. When Katara gets a hold of your blood, you're GONE.

    But wasn't katara able to resist Hama's blood bending, so it would make sense that other water benders who would gain power during the full moon might also be able to resist it, which includes Paku and Aang. I am not sure if other benders power dictates how much they are susceptible to blood bending.. otherwise blood bending would have absolutely no match.

    That is if they know how to bloodbend, which I doubt since Hama invented Bloodbending herself. If Paku and his warriors knew bloodbending then they could have possessed the Firebenders during the Siege of the North, and swiftly won. But you do have a point, between 2 water benders who knows how to bloodbend under the full moon, it all comes down to skill. But knowing Katara, I'm not sure she's willing to teach Aang or anyone the dark art of bloodbending.

    Actually did hama teach Katara how to blood bend before she actually does it? Cause I can distinctly remember something along the lines of "you should have the learn the art before betraying me". Considering blood bending is just bending the water in the body, Katara might have taught herself how to do it pretty quickly. I guess a lot of waterbenders such as Paku haven't tried to do it because of the gruesome nature of it.

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    Good guys always win.
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    slumshoes

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    Chaospyro wrote:
    slumshoes wrote:
    Chaospyro wrote:
    slumshoes wrote:
    IrohtheTea wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    Jackson5050 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    Who wins the Azula/Katara fight depends on whether it's day or night.

    I concur with this. Azula and Katara seem to be equal in terms of bending ability, so day/night would be the deciding factor. I should note, however, that from what I have seen from Book Two, Azula seems to have a more difficult time battling against waterbending. An example would be her and Katara during the CoD. Also, when she begins her fight with Aang on top of the drill, her attacks seem to be stunted when Aang is using waterbending. However, I could be wrong because those are only two instances thus making the sample size quite small.

    It should be noted that in the early stages of the CoD fight, Azula was able to easily deflect a number of waterbending attacks that were far more powerful than the one that snared her when she faced off with Katara. Basically, the Katara/Azula fight outcome was a result of Katara using her brains for once. Azula made the mistake of trying to engage Katara in close quarter comabt . Katara knew that Azula's attacks were unstoppable if she was allowed to build them up enough, and so she struck early, snuffling out the attacks while they were still just tiny flames barely out of Azula's fingertips. The reason she was able to do this was because of the extra speed and power she was recieving from the moon. Azula learnt her lesson; when the two next engaged a few minutes later, Azula took care to stay out of range and pommel Katara with powerful long distance attacks. It's funny really - whenever Katara and Azula fight eachother, Azula stops using her brain, while Katara turns ers on. They seem to have a powerful effecton eachother.

    So yeah, the winner of this battle will probably be determined by whether it is night or day.

    it will be better if it was full moon :]

    I believe Katara could beat anyone during a full moon, may it be Paku, Iroh, Bumi, or the Avatar himself. When Katara gets a hold of your blood, you're GONE.

    But wasn't katara able to resist Hama's blood bending, so it would make sense that other water benders who would gain power during the full moon might also be able to resist it, which includes Paku and Aang. I am not sure if other benders power dictates how much they are susceptible to blood bending.. otherwise blood bending would have absolutely no match.

    That is if they know how to bloodbend, which I doubt since Hama invented Bloodbending herself. If Paku and his warriors knew bloodbending then they could have possessed the Firebenders during the Siege of the North, and swiftly won. But you do have a point, between 2 water benders who knows how to bloodbend under the full moon, it all comes down to skill. But knowing Katara, I'm not sure she's willing to teach Aang or anyone the dark art of bloodbending.

    Actually did hama teach Katara how to blood bend before she actually does it? Cause I can distinctly remember something along the lines of "you should have the learn the art before betraying me". Considering blood bending is just bending the water in the body, Katara might have taught herself how to do it pretty quickly. I guess a lot of waterbenders such as Paku haven't tried to do it because of the gruesome nature of it.

    But Katara never heard of Bloodbending before she met Hama so without the idea I doubt she can do it. Hama gave her the idea, that's enough for a powerful water bender like katara to know bloodbending.
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    Chaospyro

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    slumshoes wrote:
    But Katara never heard of Bloodbending before she met Hama so without the idea I doubt she can do it. Hama gave her the idea, that's enough for a powerful water bender like katara to know bloodbending.


    Yah that's true. We are probably over analysing this way too much = P.
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    Axrendale

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    KnightGuard wrote:
    Good guys always win.

    Anyone who has watched Avatar the Last Airbender will tell you otherwise. In fact, during season 2 and the first half of season 3, I think that the Good guys actually lose far more than they win (as was commented on in EIP), and when they do win, they usually need a heck of a lot of good luck to do so.

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    now that aang knows the simple "Glow"...not the complete avatar state...just the glow....he could easily kill them in like 5 seconds......GLOW IT UP AANG!!!!
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    isabelwhatx

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    Axrendale wrote:

    KnightGuard wrote:
    Good guys always win.

    Anyone who has watched Avatar the Last Airbender will tell you otherwise. In fact, during season 2 and the first half of season 3, I think that the Good guys actually lose far more than they win (as was commented on in EIP), and when they do win, they usually need a heck of a lot of good luck to do so.


    Ah-greed. The gAang really only survived in most of the battles because they have superior skills at running away from danger. XD
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    isabelwhatx

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    avataraang113 wrote:
    now that aang knows the simple "Glow"...not the complete avatar state...just the glow....he could easily kill them in like 5 seconds......GLOW IT UP AANG!!!!

    He's a life sized glow stick!
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    MaddoKos

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    Axrendale wrote:

    KnightGuard wrote:
    Good guys always win.

    Anyone who has watched Avatar the Last Airbender will tell you otherwise. In fact, during season 2 and the first half of season 3, I think that the Good guys actually lose far more than they win (as was commented on in EIP), and when they do win, they usually need a heck of a lot of good luck to do so.

    Exactly. After Aang completely blew it in "The Guru" the Gaang got their collective asses kicked in practically every battle up until Sokka's lucky shot hit CM in WAT.

    EDIT: The only exceptions I can think of are Katara's victory over Hama and the uber-pwnage she laid down on the FN soldiers in "The Painted Lady."

    Edited on 08/06/2008 6:37pm
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    Axrendale

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    MaddoKos wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    KnightGuard wrote:
    Good guys always win.

    Anyone who has watched Avatar the Last Airbender will tell you otherwise. In fact, during season 2 and the first half of season 3, I think that the Good guys actually lose far more than they win (as was commented on in EIP), and when they do win, they usually need a heck of a lot of good luck to do so.

    Exactly. After Aang completely blew it in "The Guru" the Gaang got their collective asses kicked in practically every battle up until Sokka's lucky shot hit CM in WAT.

    EDIT: The only exceptions I can think of are Katara's victory over Hama and the uber-pwnage she laid down on the FN soldiers in "The Painted Lady."

    That's pretty much it. And even before the B2 finale, the gaang were very lucky to have won anything. Their skimishes with Azula and Long Feng required more than one deus ex machina for them to even survive, let alone win.

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    Axrendale wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    KnightGuard wrote:
    Good guys always win.

    Anyone who has watched Avatar the Last Airbender will tell you otherwise. In fact, during season 2 and the first half of season 3, I think that the Good guys actually lose far more than they win (as was commented on in EIP), and when they do win, they usually need a heck of a lot of good luck to do so.

    Exactly. After Aang completely blew it in "The Guru" the Gaang got their collective asses kicked in practically every battle up until Sokka's lucky shot hit CM in WAT.

    EDIT: The only exceptions I can think of are Katara's victory over Hama and the uber-pwnage she laid down on the FN soldiers in "The Painted Lady."

    That's pretty much it. And even before the B2 finale, the gaang were very lucky to have won anything. Their skimishes with Azula and Long Feng required more than one deus ex machina for them to even survive, let alone win.

    Yeah but...they kicked serious ass when they stormed the EK's palace.

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    Axrendale

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    MaddoKos wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    KnightGuard wrote:
    Good guys always win.

    Anyone who has watched Avatar the Last Airbender will tell you otherwise. In fact, during season 2 and the first half of season 3, I think that the Good guys actually lose far more than they win (as was commented on in EIP), and when they do win, they usually need a heck of a lot of good luck to do so.

    Exactly. After Aang completely blew it in "The Guru" the Gaang got their collective asses kicked in practically every battle up until Sokka's lucky shot hit CM in WAT.

    EDIT: The only exceptions I can think of are Katara's victory over Hama and the uber-pwnage she laid down on the FN soldiers in "The Painted Lady."

    That's pretty much it. And even before the B2 finale, the gaang were very lucky to have won anything. Their skimishes with Azula and Long Feng required more than one deus ex machina for them to even survive, let alone win.

    Yeah but...they kicked serious ass when they stormed the EK's palace.

    True that.

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    Axrendale wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    KnightGuard wrote:
    Good guys always win.

    Anyone who has watched Avatar the Last Airbender will tell you otherwise. In fact, during season 2 and the first half of season 3, I think that the Good guys actually lose far more than they win (as was commented on in EIP), and when they do win, they usually need a heck of a lot of good luck to do so.

    Exactly. After Aang completely blew it in "The Guru" the Gaang got their collective asses kicked in practically every battle up until Sokka's lucky shot hit CM in WAT.

    EDIT: The only exceptions I can think of are Katara's victory over Hama and the uber-pwnage she laid down on the FN soldiers in "The Painted Lady."

    That's pretty much it. And even before the B2 finale, the gaang were very lucky to have won anything. Their skimishes with Azula and Long Feng required more than one deus ex machina for them to even survive, let alone win.

    Yeah but...they kicked serious ass when they stormed the EK's palace.

    True that.



    Too bad they couldn't storm Ozai's palace with that much effeciency.
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