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| DarkJediJCer wrote: | ||||||||||
I never understood that either. Maybe you'd want cake just for the sake of having it...but what good does that do? You have to eat it eventually. |
Lolz, I always thought it was a funny expression too. I would just eat the cake then buy a new one. But, yeah, it's having the cake for the sake of having it.
| WowBowSon wrote: | ||||||
actually there was a picture posted a couple pages back, of a statue (real) that looked exactly like the lion turtle. so i don't think they just pulled it out of there areses, i think they did some old foktail reaserch or something and found the idea and just altered it slightly to create a lion turtle. and in the library episode Aang mention the lion turtle and there was also a picture of that a couple pages back. |
How ironic; Azula is more like a normal person than I had thought. She trusted in something, and when that was removed, she spiraled into insanity. She ended up rather pitiable.
Granted, that which she trusted in was her ability to terrorize and control those closest to her, and the whole thing is her own fault.
How come bloodbending ended up being irrelevant? One little "Katara is scary" moment in "The Southern Raiders" hardly does the creepy foreshadowy ending of "The Puppetmaster" any justice.
Things would make more sense if Zuko's mother was dead. "Tell me where my mother is"? Then why don't we get to see her? Having her die would make her story more powerful, Zuko's past more tragic (therefor interesting), and both Ozai and Azula more convincingly horrible, the former for letting his wife and the mother of his children die to make him more powerful, and the latter for laughing about it.
| Fronzel wrote: |
How ironic; Azula is more like a normal person than I had thought. She trusted in something, and when that was removed, she spiraled into insanity. She ended up rather pitiable. Granted, that which she trusted in was her ability to terrorize and control those closest to her, and the whole thing is her own fault. How come bloodbending ended up being irrelevant? One little "Katara is scary" moment in "The Southern Raiders" hardly does the creepy foreshadowy ending of "The Puppetmaster" any justice. Things would make more sense if Zuko's mother was dead. "Tell me where my mother is"? Then why don't we get to see her? Having her die would make her story more powerful, Zuko's past more tragic (therefor interesting), and both Ozai and Azula more convincingly horrible, the former for letting hish wife and the moter of his children die to make him more powerful, and the latter for laughing about it. |
| Fronzel wrote: |
How ironic; Azula is more like a normal person than I had thought. She trusted in something, and when that was removed, she spiraled into insanity. She ended up rather pitiable. Granted, that which she trusted in was her ability to terrorize and control those closest to her, and the whole thing is her own fault. How come bloodbending ended up being irrelevant? One little "Katara is scary" moment in "The Southern Raiders" hardly does the creepy foreshadowy ending of "The Puppetmaster" any justice. Things would make more sense if Zuko's mother was dead. "Tell me where my mother is"? Then why don't we get to see her? Having her die would make her story more powerful, Zuko's past more tragic (therefor interesting), and both Ozai and Azula more convincingly horrible, the former for letting his wife and the mother of his children die to make him more powerful, and the latter for laughing about it. |
| wilddog2k8 wrote: | ||
Bloodbending can only be done with a full moon, when a waterbenders power is at its peak. Also I HIGHLY doubt that Zuko's mom is dead. The scene in Ba Sing Se was directly after the jail scene where he asks about his mother. In the BSS scene Zuko seemed happy, I doubt he would be happy if his mother was dead or in some type of bad shape. And also, I highly dout the creators would have wasted time and money to put in the jail scene unless they planned to explain at some point in some way. That would have been COMPLETELY pointless because it was clear that there is an answer to the question that was asked... Azula is going to heal and become good. The little pieces of evidence that she has some good in her are proof enough. She will probably be reconnected with her mother and spend time with her...then she will begin her journey to self-fulfillment...that's my elaboration!!!! |
| wilddog2k8 wrote: |
| Bloodbending can only be done with a full moon, when a waterbenders power is at its peak. Also I HIGHLY doubt that Zuko's mom is dead. The scene in Ba Sing Se was directly after the jail scene where he asks about his mother. In the BSS scene Zuko seemed happy, I doubt he would be happy if his mother was dead or in some type of bad shape. And also, I highly dout the creators would have wasted time and money to put in the jail scene unless they planned to explain at some point in some way. That would have been COMPLETELY pointless because it was clear that there is an answer to the question that was asked... Azula is going to heal and become good. The little pieces of evidence that she has some good in her are proof enough. She will probably be reconnected with her mother and spend time with her...then she will begin her journey to self-fulfillment...that's my elaboration!!!! |
I do have to agree that it would make little sense that Zuko was smiling after finding out his mom was dead, but it's still possible because the smile could represent that he's just releived that he finally knows the truth and doesn't have to wonder any longer.
I personally doubt that Azula will become good and I think that the little bits of good and compassion shown in her are just to make her a more human character. The world is not black and white and so T.V. characetrs shouldn't be either. I think the little bits of good in Azula just make her human enough to pity a little bit.
| wilddog2k8 wrote: |
| Bloodbending can only be done with a full moon, when a waterbenders power is at its peak. |
Regardless, it ended up having next to no impact on...anything, really.
Katara didn't even exhibit much of the badassery she'd developed over the course of the series.
| wilddog2k8 wrote: |
| I HIGHLY doubt that Zuko's mom is dead. etc., etc. |
Yes, I'm aware of that; this is made very clear in the series. What I'm saying in that things would work better if she were dead. She does nothing after she's banished, and killing her off enhances characterization for Zuko, Azula, and Ozai. Hence, better.
| Fronzel wrote: | ||||
Regardless, it ended up having next to no impact on...anything, really. Katara didn't even exhibit much of the badassery she'd developed over the course of the series.
Yes, I'm aware of that; this is made very clear in the series. What I'm saying in that things would work better if she were dead. She does nothing after she's banished, and killing her off enhances characterization for Zuko, Azula, and Ozai. Hence, better. |
| wilddog2k8 wrote: | ||
Bloodbending can only be done with a full moon, when a waterbenders power is at its peak. Also I HIGHLY doubt that Zuko's mom is dead. The scene in Ba Sing Se was directly after the jail scene where he asks about his mother. In the BSS scene Zuko seemed happy, I doubt he would be happy if his mother was dead or in some type of bad shape. And also, I highly dout the creators would have wasted time and money to put in the jail scene unless they planned to explain at some point in some way. That would have been COMPLETELY pointless because it was clear that there is an answer to the question that was asked... Azula is going to heal and become good. The little pieces of evidence that she has some good in her are proof enough. She will probably be reconnected with her mother and spend time with her...then she will begin her journey to self-fulfillment...that's my elaboration!!!! |
Killing Osai would have gone against everything that was Aang! This was obviously going to be a struggle for him when the time came. It was smart to have the Avatar State take over and make it less obvious how things were going to turn out.
It was hard to understand what the Lion-Turtle was saying exactly, but I did get the impression that the Bending removal procedure had risks and that Aang decided to take the risk, rather than take the easy way out and kill Osai. Having him loose his own bending abilities as a consequence might have been a good idea though, and it seems like something Aang would have been willing to do under the circumstances, and it would have made more sense, since he was all about putting himself at risk over others. My impression of what the Bending removal thing failing, was that he would have turned evil, therefore putting everyone else at risk. (Not typical of Aang). However, loosing his bending abilities would have trashed chances for the obligatory mini-series or sequel.
All in all, I was very satisfied that they gave us an ending that made sense, and gave us closure on the main storyline, rather than just pull the plug as they do with most shows.
| tabingam wrote: |
Killing Osai would have gone against everything that was Aang! This was obviously going to be a struggle for him when the time came. It was smart to have the Avatar State take over and make it less obvious how things were going to turn out. It was hard to understand what the Lion-Turtle was saying exactly, but I did get the impression that the Bending removal procedure had risks and that Aang decided to take the risk, rather than take the easy way out and kill Osai. Having him loose his own bending abilities as a consequence might have been a good idea though, and it seems like something Aang would have been willing to do under the circumstances, and it would have made more sense, since he was all about putting himself at risk over others. My impression of what the Bending removal thing failing, was that he would have turned evil, therefore putting everyone else at risk. (Not typical of Aang). However, loosing his bending abilities would have trashed chances for the obligatory mini-series or sequel. All in all, I was very satisfied that they gave us an ending that made sense, and gave us closure on the main storyline, rather than just pull the plug as they do with most shows. |
| Ulrich22 wrote: |
| I just love this show. that kiss, everytime i see it it just overwhelms me |
| Fronzel wrote: | ||||
Regardless, it ended up having next to no impact on...anything, really. Katara didn't even exhibit much of the badassery she'd developed over the course of the series.
Yes, I'm aware of that; this is made very clear in the series. What I'm saying in that things would work better if she were dead. She does nothing after she's banished, and killing her off enhances characterization for Zuko, Azula, and Ozai. Hence, better. |
| DarkJediJCer wrote: | ||
I know what you mean. It was perfect, so perfect they didn't even have to say anything, it just happened. |
| tabingam wrote: |
| But wasn't that Blood Bending when she confronted the current leader of the Southern Raiders, when she thought he was the one that killed her mother? Although they didn't make a big deal out of it at the time. She let him go when she found out it wasn't him, then she didn't use it on the real killer later on. |
