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Official Episode Discussion: The Cave of Two Lovers

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    FreakishChild

    [481]Mar 26, 2006
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    Good theory, SpeaksTruth, but I doubt it. Usually a whole new bad guy general is pulled out of the air for these situations.
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    ILurvPenguins

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    karatewolfpunk wrote:
    mellomuse wrote:
    kittenluv5 wrote:
    I agree. I don't think the creators would waste time putting the characters on the knife if they didn't have some signifigance that would later be explained.


    Yeah, the fact that one of the symbols was featured and explained in the COTL episode (in the Omashu story) makes me think it's significant. Plus it looked kind of fancy, with the little piece of jade in the handle. I wonder who gave him that knife?


    His psychiatrist


    What...? Zuko doesn't get a pretty white jacket...-points to signature-
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    kawaiiairbender

    [483]Mar 26, 2006
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    Don't think this really pertains to the episode per se but it sorta does. I'm just announcing i've decided i'm Song's number 1 fan. ^_^
    You know what was kinda funny, Zuko talked about Katara stealing and he stole and what was worse it was from someone who was really kind to him.

    __
    so now i'm Song and Meng's #1 fan. w00t!
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    coollop

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    kawaiiairbender wrote:
    Don't think this really pertains to the episode per se but it sorta does. I'm just announcing i've decided i'm Song's number 1 fan. ^_^
    You know what was kinda funny, Zuko talked about Katara stealing and he stole and what was worse it was from someone who was really kind to him.

    __
    so now i'm Song and Meng's #1 fan. w00t!


    *coughcough* I already told you this on dA, but Song's eyes scared me for absolutely no reason at all. No offence ^^;

    Yeah, but it was kind of good evidence that he's not going to turn over a new leaf as easy as we thought. So it was bad, but still, we're talking about Zuko here.
    Heheh, you can always look on the bright side, now Zuko and Iroh have an animal companion just like Aang and Co. XD
    Edited on 03/26/2006 3:31pm
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    kawaiiairbender

    [485]Mar 26, 2006
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    coollop wrote:
    kawaiiairbender wrote:
    Don't think this really pertains to the episode per se but it sorta does. I'm just announcing i've decided i'm Song's number 1 fan. ^_^
    You know what was kinda funny, Zuko talked about Katara stealing and he stole and what was worse it was from someone who was really kind to him.

    __
    so now i'm Song and Meng's #1 fan. w00t!


    *coughcough* I already told you this on dA, but Song's eyes scared me for absolutely no reason at all. No offence ^^;

    Yeah, but it was kind of good evidence that he's not going to turn over a new leaf as easy as we thought. So it was bad, but still, we're talking about Zuko here.
    Heheh, you can always look on the bright side, now Zuko and Iroh have an animal companion just like Aang and Co. XD

    Theiven how trifelin. Song's eyes are so kawaii. I think we won't see her for a while and then aang and co will meet her or something and she'll tell them about zuko or li
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    coollop

    [486]Mar 26, 2006
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    kawaiiairbender wrote:
    coollop wrote:
    kawaiiairbender wrote:
    Don't think this really pertains to the episode per se but it sorta does. I'm just announcing i've decided i'm Song's number 1 fan. ^_^
    You know what was kinda funny, Zuko talked about Katara stealing and he stole and what was worse it was from someone who was really kind to him.

    __
    so now i'm Song and Meng's #1 fan. w00t!


    *coughcough* I already told you this on dA, but Song's eyes scared me for absolutely no reason at all. No offence ^^;

    Yeah, but it was kind of good evidence that he's not going to turn over a new leaf as easy as we thought. So it was bad, but still, we're talking about Zuko here.
    Heheh, you can always look on the bright side, now Zuko and Iroh have an animal companion just like Aang and Co. XD

    Theiven how trifelin. Song's eyes are so kawaii. I think we won't see her for a while and then aang and co will meet her or something and she'll tell them about zuko or li


    *hides* sorry, my strange little mind works in even stranger ways. I myself find it almost scary that I'm afraid of poor Song, but have fallen into a mad obsession with the wolfbats.
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    PrinceZukoLover

    [487]Mar 26, 2006
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    people I think there is going to be a romantic episode that revolves around Zuko here is the info

    http://www.us.imdb.com/title/tt0775583/

    "When there was me and you" it says Zuko's voice was used the most during this episode
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    karatewolfpunk

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    PrinceZukoLover wrote:
    people I think there is going to be a romantic episode that revolves around Zuko here is the info

    http://www.us.imdb.com/title/tt0775583/

    "When there was me and you" it says Zuko's voice was used the most during this episode


    imdb is not always correct
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    sly4me

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    PrinceZukoLover wrote:
    people I think there is going to be a romantic episode that revolves around Zuko here is the info

    http://www.us.imdb.com/title/tt0775583/

    "When there was me and you" it says Zuko's voice was used the most during this episode
    sounds like "zuko alone".
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    coollop

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    PrinceZukoLover wrote:
    people I think there is going to be a romantic episode that revolves around Zuko here is the info

    http://www.us.imdb.com/title/tt0775583/

    "When there was me and you" it says Zuko's voice was used the most during this episode


    ???? Where'd it say that?
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    FreakishChild

    [491]Mar 26, 2006
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    Highly unlikely this is an accurate episode. This site was WRONG about The Eastern Air Temple. Plus this doesn't sound like an Avatar episode title (maybe fanfiction). I expect to see Hinata and Gaara hook-up before I see this title happens.
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    Breakflame

    [492]Mar 26, 2006
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    anyone else see the 2005 part? I don't remember seeing any season 2 episodes in 2005, do you?
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    sly4me

    [493]Mar 26, 2006
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    Breakflame wrote:
    anyone else see the 2005 part? I don't remember seeing any season 2 episodes in 2005, do you?
    i could be wrong, but I believe the 2005 part is reffering to the start of the series.
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    coollop

    [494]Mar 26, 2006
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    Okay, did I miss something on that page? Cause I'm pretty sure that I did...

    ooooh, I *only* just noticed that ATLA is on the front page as the 10th most popular show!
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    PrincessZula

    [495]Mar 26, 2006
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    I liked Song, mainly because she's different from all the other Avatar Ladies we've met so far. I'm not saying that they weren't sweet but if you were compare Song to Azula, Yue, Katara, Suki, Jun, Meng, and Koko she's different. Something like that
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    herumosu

    [496]Mar 26, 2006
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    Does anyone know why Song was spying on Zuko and Iroh at the end of the episode when they stole the chocobo-ish animal? Was she anticipating the theft or what?
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    mellomuse

    [497]Mar 27, 2006
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    PrinceZukoLover wrote:
    people I think there is going to be a romantic episode that revolves around Zuko here is the info

    http://www.us.imdb.com/title/tt0775583/

    "When there was me and you" it says Zuko's voice was used the most during this episode


    I think those are just the voices from the series in general. If you go by the order in which they are listed, then Gram-Gram's voice is the second most used in the episode. I highly doubt that. (Although, does anyone know who the "little Fire Nation girl" is? I keep seeing her credited but I don't remember any FN girl. Maybe from the Deserter? Or the squealing little girl voice in Storm?)

    It's an interesting title to be sure, of course I don't know if it's accurate as many of you have pointed out. Could be romantic, could be family memories, could be something else entirely--

    Aang & Katara
    Zuko & Song
    Zuko & Iroh
    Zuko & Ozai
    Zuko & Aang
    Aang & Bumi (if Bumi is still alive at this point)
    Iroh & his "lost" son
    Aang & Gyatso
    Katara and her mom
    Sokka and his dad
    Sokka & Yue

    The possibilities are almost endless.


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    Saphire_Angel

    [498]Mar 27, 2006
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    You're right. The possibilities are endless.(That is if what you're saying is accurate.)

    On a different note: Cosmic_Angel? If you're still coming to this thread I just want to tell you that I noticed that too.
    Our names are sort of alike.

    Back on topic: No matter what anyone says I still have a strong feeling that Song WILL return.
    (I'M STILL A DREAMER)
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    Cosmic_Angel

    [499]Mar 27, 2006
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    Saphire_Angel wrote:
    You're right. The possibilities are endless.(That is if what you're saying is accurate.)

    On a different note: Cosmic_Angel? If you're still coming to this thread I just want to tell you that I noticed that too.
    Our names are sort of alike.

    Back on topic: No matter what anyone says I still have a strong feeling that Song WILL return.
    (I'M STILL A DREAMER)


    Song will return!

    Note: Yes, I still go to this thread.
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    mistresskatara

    [500]Mar 27, 2006
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    The thing that really struck me about this episode was that it felt more like a Japanese-style anime than any of the other have- the excessive wacky humor, the legend, and most noticeably (to me at least): Song. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I think that the "scariness", or the "differentness" that some people have been attributing to Song is that she's drawn and acted more as a Japanese-style anime character-- her eyes, for example, seemed different than Yue's or Katara's. I'll need to watch it again just to be sure on that, though.

    koikitten wrote:
    mistresskatara wrote:
    Let me first say that I am for Aang/Katara all the way, so my opinion is not rooted in shipping-"denial" of any kind. Despite many fabulous arguments to the contrary, I just don't think they kissed. Why would the animators ruin their first kiss by not letting us see it? I think the point of that moment was to show that they *wanted* to kiss, and almost did. Doesn't anyone else think that Aang's reaction was a little underwhelmed afterwards considering that the mere thought of them kissing had him weak-kneed and googly-eyed?

    Enough debate about that, though.

    I'm pretty sure King Bumi is dead. He probably died fighting like Gyatso. Why else would Aang be looking for an earthbending master in upcoming episodes? (see episode guide, "The Earthbending Championship" I believe)

    And, enough of that depressing stuff.

    Now for song lyrics! I went though the trouble of transposing them because I love you all. Enjoy!

    ~~~~~~~~
    Nomad guy:
    Two lovers, forbidden from one another,
    A world divides their people,
    And a mountain divides them apart.
    Built a path to be together,
    *spoken*And I forget the next couple lines but then it goes:
    *rocking out* SECRET TUNNEL! SECRET TUNNEL!
    THROUGH THE MOUNTAINS!
    SECRET, SECRET, SECRET, SECRET TUNNEL! YEAH!
    (AND DIE!)
    ~~~~~~~~
    Nomad guy:
    Oh, don't let the cave in get you down!
    Don't let the falling rocks turn your smile into a frown!
    When the tunnel's as dark as that's when you need a clown!
    Hey, don't let the cave in get you down...Sokka!
    ~~~~~~~~
    Nomad guy:
    Even if you're lost you can't
    lose the love because it's in your heart.
    Ooo, ooo, ooo, ooo.
    ~~~~~~~~
    Sokka: Badger-moles, coming toward me,
    come on guys, help me out!
    (Nomads start up music)
    Nomad guy: The big bad badger-moles,
    who opened the tunnels,
    hate the wolf-bats,
    but love the sounds...
    ~~~~~~~~

    w00t. I'm sort of in love with that episode.


    I need to watch this episode again.

    By the way, I love you for getting these lyrics.


    You're quite welcome! (I love you, too. lol)
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