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Official Character Relationship Discussion 4

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    Axrendale

    [5181]Sep 5, 2008
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    YAYZ, Songko
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    Sektos

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    isabelwhatx wrote:

    sektos wrote:
    SOngko is negligible to me. Sure she was caring (not much character wise there though), but fact was Zuko didnt return her feelings and we werent with her long enough inorder to see any Depth.
    I'm going to have to disagree with Zuko not returning the feelings.

    I believe that the face Zuko has on clearly indicates he is touched that someone else suffered through the same problems as him. I do think Song reached him at some level that no one else has before. Song had been through something very similar to Zuko, and therefore they bonded, whether Zuko wanted to or not.


    like i said with Jinko been while since ive seen these eps

    I remember that bit now, short but showed ZUko cared. BUT it wasnt so much for SOng (thou prob little) as for fact that ZUko is starting to see more of what the firenation has done. He didnt like the war before, but even so, i dont "think" he ever saw the victims of the war up close b4. The fact this girl had suffered similar to him did not stop him from stilling her emu/ostrich- horse without any remorse (that we saw)
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    Sektos

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    But again i need to rewatch eps

    as i said before with SOngko- not enough time for any depth to develope.
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    isabelwhatx

    [5184]Sep 6, 2008
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    Sektos wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:

    sektos wrote:
    SOngko is negligible to me. Sure she was caring (not much character wise there though), but fact was Zuko didnt return her feelings and we werent with her long enough inorder to see any Depth.
    I'm going to have to disagree with Zuko not returning the feelings.

    I believe that the face Zuko has on clearly indicates he is touched that someone else suffered through the same problems as him. I do think Song reached him at some level that no one else has before. Song had been through something very similar to Zuko, and therefore they bonded, whether Zuko wanted to or not.


    like i said with Jinko been while since ive seen these eps

    I remember that bit now, short but showed ZUko cared. BUT it wasnt so much for SOng (thou prob little) as for fact that ZUko is starting to see more of what the firenation has done. He didnt like the war before, but even so, i dont "think" he ever saw the victims of the war up close b4. The fact this girl had suffered similar to him did not stop him from stilling her emu/ostrich- horse without any remorse (that we saw)

    Very untrue. Song was trying to get close to Zuko the entire episode. And, in the end, when Zuko stole her ostrich horse, Song sat in the door way and let Zuko take it, understanding. That was a major thing for me.

    And it is sad that Songko never had time to develop. It would've been a really nice relationship.
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    Axrendale

    [5185]Sep 6, 2008
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    Songko had more time than Jinko. Which ship attracted more interest from Zuko is hard to say - he really gave off little sign that he was attracted at all to either girl.
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    isabelwhatx

    [5186]Sep 6, 2008
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    Zuko is a ladies man, that's all I can say He has the most possible cannon ships out of everyone in the show.
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    libraman_92

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Zuko is a ladies man, that's all I can say He has the most possible cannon ships out of everyone in the show.


    arg its true.


    ***SPOILER***
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    EmoHaruno

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    libraman_92 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Zuko is a ladies man, that's all I can say He has the most possible cannon ships out of everyone in the show.


    arg its true.


    ***SPOILER***

    So everyone seems to agree on Jinko and Songko, even Kataangers, but if theres one mention of Zutara everyone gets all heated and goes into battle?
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    isabelwhatx

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    EmoHaruno wrote:
    libraman_92 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Zuko is a ladies man, that's all I can say He has the most possible cannon ships out of everyone in the show.


    arg its true.


    ***SPOILER***

    So everyone seems to agree on Jinko and Songko, even Kataangers, but if theres one mention of Zutara everyone gets all heated and goes into battle?

    Sounds about right.
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    EmoHaruno

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    EmoHaruno wrote:
    libraman_92 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Zuko is a ladies man, that's all I can say He has the most possible cannon ships out of everyone in the show.


    arg its true.


    ***SPOILER***

    So everyone seems to agree on Jinko and Songko, even Kataangers, but if theres one mention of Zutara everyone gets all heated and goes into battle?

    Sounds about right.

    Lmao
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    isabelwhatx

    [5191]Sep 6, 2008
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    Oh, and since you mentioned it...


    KATAANG FTW!
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    Axrendale

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    EmoHaruno wrote:
    libraman_92 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Zuko is a ladies man, that's all I can say He has the most possible cannon ships out of everyone in the show.
    arg its true.
    ***SPOILER***
    So everyone seems to agree on Jinko and Songko, even Kataangers, but if theres one mention of Zutara everyone gets all heated and goes into battle?

    Yep, because ironically, Katara is pretty much the only girl in the show who has never expressed any interest in Zuko at all. Even Zuko/Toph has more evidence than Zutara, which really says something.

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    bl0ndi3girl18

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    I don't have anything against Zutara if they actually had a chance i would like it. But they never had a chance, like Axrendale said, Katara showed no interest in Zuko AT ALL.
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    rgc19

    [5194]Sep 6, 2008
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    A lot of people who ship Zutara also offer Taang as an alternative, which makes even less sense. I've yet to see anybody convincingly defend that ship. The only time I even thought of Taang being realistic was the Blind Bandit, and never again since that episode. Toko > Taang, IMO
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    Axrendale

    [5195]Sep 6, 2008
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    Pretty much the only only evidence of Taang that has ever been offered up is The Blind Bandit, The Swamp, and the same "opposites attract" ideal that was the foundation of Zutara for many. Pretty much all Taang shippers were Zutarians who were trying to convince people of it as an alternative, and failing miserably.
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    EmoHaruno

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    Axrendale wrote:
    Pretty much the only only evidence of Taang that has ever been offered up is The Blind Bandit, The Swamp, and the same "opposites attract" ideal that was the foundation of Zutara for many. Pretty much all Taang shippers were Zutarians who were trying to convince people of it as an alternative, and failing miserably.

    Or maybe we just like the ship because we think its cute...?
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    Dark_soul89

    [5197]Sep 6, 2008
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    EmoHaruno wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    Pretty much the only only evidence of Taang that has ever been offered up is The Blind Bandit, The Swamp, and the same "opposites attract" ideal that was the foundation of Zutara for many. Pretty much all Taang shippers were Zutarians who were trying to convince people of it as an alternative, and failing miserably.

    Or maybe we just like the ship because we think its cute...?

    no Taang is just Zutara shippers that were desperately looking for someone to stick aang with
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    Axrendale

    [5198]Sep 7, 2008
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    EmoHaruno wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    Pretty much the only only evidence of Taang that has ever been offered up is The Blind Bandit, The Swamp, and the same "opposites attract" ideal that was the foundation of Zutara for many. Pretty much all Taang shippers were Zutarians who were trying to convince people of it as an alternative, and failing miserably.
    Or maybe we just like the ship because we think its cute...?

    Those people would be few and far between, methinks, and likely to get crushed by the tokkans.

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    Sektos

    [5199]Sep 7, 2008
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Sektos wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:

    sektos wrote:
    SOngko is negligible to me. Sure she was caring (not much character wise there though), but fact was Zuko didnt return her feelings and we werent with her long enough inorder to see any Depth.
    I'm going to have to disagree with Zuko not returning the feelings.

    I believe that the face Zuko has on clearly indicates he is touched that someone else suffered through the same problems as him. I do think Song reached him at some level that no one else has before. Song had been through something very similar to Zuko, and therefore they bonded, whether Zuko wanted to or not.


    like i said with Jinko been while since ive seen these eps

    I remember that bit now, short but showed ZUko cared. BUT it wasnt so much for SOng (thou prob little) as for fact that ZUko is starting to see more of what the firenation has done. He didnt like the war before, but even so, i dont "think" he ever saw the victims of the war up close b4. The fact this girl had suffered similar to him did not stop him from stilling her emu/ostrich- horse without any remorse (that we saw)

    Very untrue. Song was trying to get close to Zuko the entire episode. And, in the end, when Zuko stole her ostrich horse, Song sat in the door way and let Zuko take it, understanding. That was a major thing for me.

    And it is sad that Songko never had time to develop. It would've been a really nice relationship.


    sorry isabelwhatx but which bit did u think was untrue???
    I dont think i said that "she" didnt care or anything like that?

    JUST re-read it! I was talking about ZUKO there LOL not SONG. "showed ZUko cared. BUT it wasnt so much for SOng (thou prob little) as for fact that ZUko is starting to see more of what the firenation has done."
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    Axrendale

    [5200]Sep 7, 2008
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    Arguing over who Zuko liked more, Song or Jin, is probably not going to get us very far, as Zuko showed very little response to either female. So it all comes down to Song vs Jin, and what they felt for Zuko. I'm going to go out on a limb and compare Songko to Kataang, and Jinko to Zutara, at least as far as why people like the two ships.
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