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Sokka ship?

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    Murellus

    [1021]Mar 19, 2008
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    tomtitan wrote:
    WiseLad wrote:
    Everything is about how ONE WANTS TO SEE THINGS at the scenes one can EASILY find evidence for Zukaang, if one wanted to do that I will just put 3 Blue spirit episode, when Zuko caught Aang during the north tribe siege, and
    ***SPOILER***
    i'm going to use a technique called reductio ad absurdum. it means that if you can use that stuff as evidence for zutara, then the following is proof of sokkaang: 1. show no fear. said to sokka and to aang, that little kid said it so sokka in 102 and roku said it to aang in 120. 2. symbolism, yin and yang. opposites. aang is the avatar, master of bending and the spiritual, sokka is a non bender who likes looking at the natural world. they balance each other out. 3. they are opposites, and yet so similar. there is so much proof in the series that they have so much in common. they are best friends, they care for katara, they both can be serious and also enjoy having fun, they're so similar and so opposite. 4.why did they put the emphasis on sokka's reaction to aang joining the gaang in 101? unless it meant they are going to end up together! 5. they went through opposite hairstyles in 310. whereas aang shaved his head, sokka let his grow, something he didn't do previously. 6. in 310, it was only aang that could comfort sokka about his inability to give a speech. 7. in 212 both of their relationships with the girls they like developed, sokka kissed suki and aang had a touching moment with katara. 8. sokka and aang both got new weapons in season 3. the point is, if you use the stuff in that video as zutara evidence, then that means that this stuff is sokkaang evidence.

    I too object on Zutara for Katokka:

    Abuse for them is interpreted as love so exzibit A:

    And also, Zutara relies on Katara's former feelings for Zuko so exzibit B for Katokka:

    Therefore the logic in Katokka is the same for Zutara. Thus I give my warning:

    Edited on 03/19/2008 1:27pm
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    wiseone_777

    [1022]Mar 19, 2008
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    WiseLad wrote:
    Everything is about how ONE WANTS TO SEE THINGS at the scenes

    one can EASILY find evidence for Zukaang, if one wanted to do that

    I will just put 3 Blue spirit episode, when Zuko caught Aang during the north tribe siege, and


    ***SPOILER***

    tomtitan wrote:
    WiseLad wrote:
    Everything is about how ONE WANTS TO SEE THINGS at the scenes

    one can EASILY find evidence for Zukaang, if one wanted to do that

    I will just put 3 Blue spirit episode, when Zuko caught Aang during the north tribe siege, and


    ***SPOILER***
    i'm going to use a technique called reductio ad absurdum. it means that if you can use that stuff as evidence for zutara, then the following is proof of sokkaang:

    1. show no fear. said to sokka and to aang, that little kid said it so sokka in 102 and roku said it to aang in 120.
    2. symbolism, yin and yang. opposites. aang is the avatar, master of bending and the spiritual, sokka is a non bender who likes looking at the natural world. they balance each other out.
    3. they are opposites, and yet so similar. there is so much proof in the series that they have so much in common. they are best friends, they care for katara, they both can be serious and also enjoy having fun, they're so similar and so opposite. 4.why did they put the emphasis on sokka's reaction to aang joining the gaang in 101? unless it meant they are going to end up together!
    5. they went through opposite hairstyles in 310. whereas aang shaved his head, sokka let his grow, something he didn't do previously.
    6. in 310, it was only aang that could comfort sokka about his inability to give a speech.
    7. in 212 both of their relationships with the girls they like developed, sokka kissed suki and aang had a touching moment with katara.
    8. sokka and aang both got new weapons in season 3.

    the point is, if you use the stuff in that video as zutara evidence, then that means that this stuff is sokkaang evidence.
    We all know that Sokkaang and Zukaang are not going to happen, so let us get that out of our mind (I know you didn't mean that Tomtitan and Wiselad, but those who are easily deluded by Zutara could believe in that). Zutara is mainly based on Symbolism, but the 2 dragons in the TBS could simply stand for
    ***SPOILER***
    . It could be another relic. As the two quoted posts have stated before, Zukaang and Sokkang could be found in the YouTube lessons for Dummies. (I must implore that whoever thinks that those who do believe in Zutara, that they are the Dummies, yes? Yes!) These quotes, along with the arguments that I, and many intelligent others before me clearly stated that argued the points of Kataang and the faults of Zutara, clearly state that Kataang must happen. It is LOGICAL, REASONABLE, AND SENSIBLE. By so doing, all those who, in cases of extremities and emphatic believers, believe in Zutara, are clearly deluded, and cannot, and will not be changed, because of their mule-headedness, and their opinionated rudeness. Therefore, Kataang will happen, according to all the arguments!!
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    AllKnowingBeing

    [1023]Mar 19, 2008
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    Murellus-Fool you forgot the biggest Katoka evidence ever.

    Edited on 03/19/2008 1:57pm
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    wiseone_777

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    AllKnowingBeing wrote:

    Fool you forgot the biggest Katoka evidence ever.

    O____________O.........ewww....
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    music4life17

    [1025]Mar 19, 2008
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    wiseone_777 wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:

    Fool you forgot the biggest Katoka evidence ever.

    O____________O.........ewww....

    Agreed. That's incest and disgusting. I'd appreciate if you wouldn't post stuff like that.

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    music4life17

    [1026]Mar 19, 2008
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    tomtitan wrote:

    ZUTARA Evidence for the Intellectual Dummy (Lesson ONE)

    ZUTARA Evidence for the Intellectual Dummy (Lesson TWO)

    ZUTARA Evidence for the Intellectual Dummy (Lesson THREE)

    ZUTARA Evidence for the Intellectual Dummy (Lesson FOUR)

    ZUTARA Evidence for the Intellectual Dummy (Lesson FIVE)

    ZUTARA Evidence for the Intellectual Dummy (Lesson SIX)

    can we please watch these and debate them? i think it makes a great topic for debate, as it contains practically every piece of zutara evidence zutarians ever come up with.

    I love those videos. Even though they are blantantly for Zutara - they also present Kataang in a respectable way instead of just bashing the rest of the pairings. One of my favorite points which we can debate upon if everyone chooses is Aunt Wu's statement about Aang's destiny. She said he could reshape it not change it. I figure that means he can determine the means on how he becomes the fully realized avatar but it doesn't change the fact that he has to become a fully realized avatar. Any other thoughts on it or perhaps any of the points in the videos? I encourage everyone to take a peek at them even if you are for Kataang or Zutara - they are very informative and made very well.

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    wiseone_777

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    music4life17 wrote:
    wiseone_777 wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:

    Fool you forgot the biggest Katoka evidence ever.

    O____________O.........ewww....

    Agreed. That's incest and disgusting. I'd appreciate if you wouldn't post stuff like that.

    Though, this is...ewww. (Lo & Li)

    and this is just....................nasty. They look as if they`re swallowing each other. Yummy!!!!

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    music4life17

    [1028]Mar 19, 2008
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    wiseone_777 wrote:
    music4life17 wrote:
    wiseone_777 wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:

    Fool you forgot the biggest Katoka evidence ever.

    O____________O.........ewww....

    Agreed. That's incest and disgusting. I'd appreciate if you wouldn't post stuff like that.

    Though, this is...ewww. (Lo & Li)

    and this is just....................nasty. They look as if they`re swallowing each other. Yummy!!!!

    lol Yeah - that is too. Both scenes in the Beach (that you posted above) made me cringe. x.x

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    wiseone_777

    [1029]Mar 19, 2008
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    music4life17 wrote:
    wiseone_777 wrote:
    music4life17 wrote:
    wiseone_777 wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:

    Fool you forgot the biggest Katoka evidence ever.

    O____________O.........ewww....

    Agreed. That's incest and disgusting. I'd appreciate if you wouldn't post stuff like that.

    Though, this is...ewww. (Lo & Li)

    and this is just....................nasty. They look as if they`re swallowing each other. Yummy!!!!

    lol Yeah - that is too. Both scenes in the Beach (that you posted above) made me cringe. x.x

    You know, when I saw the first pic, I thought it was a duplicate of Ty Lee, standing on her hands.
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    momothelemur

    [1030]Mar 19, 2008
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    wiseone_777 wrote:
    WiseLad wrote:
    Everything is about how ONE WANTS TO SEE THINGS at the scenes one can EASILY find evidence for Zukaang, if one wanted to do that I will just put 3 Blue spirit episode, when Zuko caught Aang during the north tribe siege, and
    ***SPOILER***
    tomtitan wrote:
    WiseLad wrote:
    Everything is about how ONE WANTS TO SEE THINGS at the scenes one can EASILY find evidence for Zukaang, if one wanted to do that I will just put 3 Blue spirit episode, when Zuko caught Aang during the north tribe siege, and
    ***SPOILER***
    i'm going to use a technique called reductio ad absurdum. it means that if you can use that stuff as evidence for zutara, then the following is proof of sokkaang: 1. show no fear. said to sokka and to aang, that little kid said it so sokka in 102 and roku said it to aang in 120. 2. symbolism, yin and yang. opposites. aang is the avatar, master of bending and the spiritual, sokka is a non bender who likes looking at the natural world. they balance each other out. 3. they are opposites, and yet so similar. there is so much proof in the series that they have so much in common. they are best friends, they care for katara, they both can be serious and also enjoy having fun, they're so similar and so opposite. 4.why did they put the emphasis on sokka's reaction to aang joining the gaang in 101? unless it meant they are going to end up together! 5. they went through opposite hairstyles in 310. whereas aang shaved his head, sokka let his grow, something he didn't do previously. 6. in 310, it was only aang that could comfort sokka about his inability to give a speech. 7. in 212 both of their relationships with the girls they like developed, sokka kissed suki and aang had a touching moment with katara. 8. sokka and aang both got new weapons in season 3. the point is, if you use the stuff in that video as zutara evidence, then that means that this stuff is sokkaang evidence.
    We all know that Sokkaang and Zukaang are not going to happen, so let us get that out of our mind (I know you didn't mean that Tomtitan and Wiselad, but those who are easily deluded by Zutara could believe in that). Zutara is mainly based on Symbolism, but the 2 dragons in the TBS could simply stand for
    ***SPOILER***
    . It could be another relic. As the two quoted posts have stated before, Zukaang and Sokkang could be found in the YouTube lessons for Dummies. (I must implore that whoever thinks that those who do believe in Zutara, that they are the Dummies, yes? Yes!) These quotes, along with the arguments that I, and many intelligent others before me clearly stated that argued the points of Kataang and the faults of Zutara, clearly state that Kataang must happen. It is LOGICAL, REASONABLE, AND SENSIBLE. By so doing, all those who, in cases of extremities and emphatic believers, believe in Zutara, are clearly deluded, and cannot, and will not be changed, because of their mule-headedness, and their opinionated rudeness. Therefore, Kataang will happen, according to all the arguments!!

    Are you bashing people who ship Zutara by calling them rude and opinionated? Sorry, I'm just so darn mule-headed and deluded that I can't quite grasp that concept.

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    wiseone_777

    [1031]Mar 19, 2008
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    No, look, IN CASES OF EXTREMITIES AND EMPHATIC BELIVERS!! Now look everyone! Exhibit A of a mule-headed, thick-skulled, opinionated, illogical Zutarian, Momothelemur. *wiseone_777 laughs at Exhibit A*
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    kamzts

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    goodgirl528 wrote:

    List of Zutara Evidence (ha, you naive kataangers):

    *the cave scene, you know the one right before zuko betrayed katara

    *when zuko saved katara from the pirates, then tied her up to a tree

    *that night time talk, when katara gave zuko a death threat

    oh what zutara pwns



    First of all in the cave that was pitty and trusting not love that would be like saying the cave of to lovers was love for kataang and I dont count that.

    Also He tied her to a tree. Wow. So romantic. If they loved eachother then why did Zuko tie her to a tree plus he saved her so he could find Aang.

    Last. Oh that romantic death threat again. I like to use that against you zutarians. What kind of love is it when one threatens to kill the other.
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    snowprincess456

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    *raises sleves*

    you know..you narrow minded kataangers are really getting on my nerves...we never make fun or insult you because you what you ship and we expect the same in return...(btw I call only the few kataangers narrow minded because they won't accept people like other ships)

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    momothelemur

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    wiseone_777 wrote:
    No, look, IN CASES OF EXTREMITIES AND EMPHATIC BELIVERS!! Now look everyone! Exhibit A of a mule-headed, thick-skulled, opinionated, illogical Zutarian, Momothelemur. *wiseone_777 laughs at Exhibit A*

    Just because I ship Zutara doesn't make me any of those things and I'm very insulted that you would call me names judging by one comment that I made. I'll have you know that I support all ships, I just happen to favour Zutara. I wasn't rude to you (in case you count sarcasm as rude) and don't really understand why you feel the need to insult me just because I think something different than you.

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    kamzts

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    snowprincess456 wrote:

    *raises sleves*

    you know..you narrow minded kataangers are really getting on my nerves...we never make fun or insult you because you what you ship and we expect the same in return...(btw I call only the few kataangers narrow minded because they won't accept people like other ships)



    Hey I dont care if you are a zutarian that is untill you say zutara is going to happen and that makes me tick plus its fun to argue and there are rude zutarians also.
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    wiseone_777

    [1036]Mar 19, 2008
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    momothelemur wrote:

    wiseone_777 wrote:
    No, look, IN CASES OF EXTREMITIES AND EMPHATIC BELIVERS!! Now look everyone! Exhibit A of a mule-headed, thick-skulled, opinionated, illogical Zutarian, Momothelemur. *wiseone_777 laughs at Exhibit A*

    Just because I ship Zutara doesn't make me any of those things and I'm very insulted that you would call me names judging by one comment that I made. I'll have you know that I support all ships, I just happen to favour Zutara. I wasn't rude to you (in case you count sarcasm as rude) and don't really understand why you feel the need to insult me just because I think something different than you.

    Well, I am insulted that you emboldened words, when you did not to some words. You took my words out of context. If you really didn`t want me to insult you, you should have said THEN that you supported all ships. If you take someone`s words out of context, you should expect to be insulted. I`m sorry I insulted you, but expect it next time you take me out of context.
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    KikitheFiend

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    momothelemur wrote:

    wiseone_777 wrote:
    No, look, IN CASES OF EXTREMITIES AND EMPHATIC BELIVERS!! Now look everyone! Exhibit A of a mule-headed, thick-skulled, opinionated, illogical Zutarian, Momothelemur. *wiseone_777 laughs at Exhibit A*

    Just because I ship Zutara doesn't make me any of those things and I'm very insulted that you would call me names judging by one comment that I made. I'll have you know that I support all ships, I just happen to favour Zutara. I wasn't rude to you (in case you count sarcasm as rude) and don't really understand why you feel the need to insult me just because I think something different than you.

    Exactly, there's no need to be insulting. Can't we all just ge along?
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    snowprincess456

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    kamzts wrote:
    snowprincess456 wrote:

    *raises sleves*

    you know..you narrow minded kataangers are really getting on my nerves...we never make fun or insult you because you what you ship and we expect the same in return...(btw I call only the few kataangers narrow minded because they won't accept people like other ships)



    Hey I dont care if you are a zutarian that is untill you say zutara is going to happen and that makes me tick plus its fun to argue and there are rude zutarians also.

    that is true...a good argue can be fun every now and then..
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    kamzts

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    Oh I forgot I know I said I'm done with Kataang I meant till the next episode. But I changed my mind I think it's fun arguing. I forgot to post this the other day so here

    Jealous are we?

    Tokka vs. Sukka:

    Tokka- I prefer Tokka but its a lot like Zutara in the way that its needs to build up in 8 episodes but it is further than Zutara and has a better chance. Also something has to happen between Sokka and Suki.

    Sukka- I don't mind if this ship happens as long as Toph ends up with someone. This one is already happening but Suki could be dead or if Azula wasn't lying she might have given up on Sokka.

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    wiseone_777

    [1040]Mar 19, 2008
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    snowprincess456 wrote:

    *raises sleves*

    you know..you narrow minded kataangers are really getting on my nerves...we never make fun or insult you because you what you ship and we expect the same in return...(btw I call only the few kataangers narrow minded because they won't accept people like other ships)

    You are narrow-minded, because you DO insult us, and you expect nothing in return. We accept TRUE ships, not delusional ideas people consider ships.
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