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Strix_Moonwing

[101]Nov 24, 2006

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angel10113 wrote:

Strix_Moonwing wrote:

angel10113 wrote:

kataang4eva081 wrote:

iareally wrote:

gotmelc wrote:

iareally wrote:

darth_mage wrote:

Aang and Katara have no future. His first priority is being the Avatar, this isn't soemthing new either, remember in the first season they made their way to the fire nation temple even though aang was barely trained in the other elements and katara's water bending skills weren't that great at all, risking all their lives because he had to. He will give her up there can be no doubt about it, doesn't mean that it will be easy for him though.

Totally agree with you! His first and far most important duty is to save the world. Period! End of story. I'm not say that he has to give her up as a friend, or even as a fighting buddy but hopefully he's realize where his real responiblity is.

ok im not trying to be meen or anything, but i mean even though aang is the avatar, he's the ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD WHO CAN'T LOVE. sure, he HAS to save the world, but maybe theres some other feelings he has, fer a someone aka katara. i meen, aang KNOWS his first reponsbility is to be the avatar and save the world, and what not... but he can love, he has feelings and he is human., why should being the avatar stop him by feeling love?

I did'nt say he couldn't love, we already know he does. He just cant let that stand in the way of everything else he has to do. Plus its not like Katara is going to be the last girl he'll ever meet. Also isn't it more important that Aang learn how to master being the avatar even if it means letting Katara go if it means it'll save the world? If he doesn't do what needs to be done (and that may include letting katara go) and he doesn't beat the fire lord then there wont be much of a world left for anyone to be in love in will there?

Maybe there is a way to have both. In every movie where a guy has to save the world he "gets the girl and saves the world". Then again, avatar is far from normal. Aang is in love Katara too much to simply give her up. Its going to break his little heart. Think what happened when only his pet was taken. Now substitute pet for "true love". If that in its self won't put him into the avatar state , nothing will. He has a hard decision to make. Maybe he'll find a way to get both, hopefully.

Long live Kataang!

it's kind of hard to believe that a 12-year old kid knows what?? true love is and second, his feelings for Katarra??can and probably will??cloud his judgement about the choices he makes. Continuing with the Star Wars comparison, Anakin Skywalker killed just about all the Jedi, people who were supposed to be his family and friends, to protect the one he loves. Being the avatar Aang has the power to do something like that. Remember what he did to the Earth Kingdom base in "The Avatar State".

I believe that what Aang is feeling is true love. Katara was the first person Aang ever saw after being brought to live after many years and that created a special bond between the two that can not be broken. This bond may or may not be true love but it is there and nothing the Guru says can make Aang give it up. Also, I know this may be alittle off topic, but is it true that monks can't marry? Aren't they not allowed too?

Buddhist monks aren't allowed to marry because marriage is a form of "an earthly desire" which monks are taught to avoid. But in Avatar's case the Air Nomads have to reproduce and continue their lineage somehow.

I guess....but I haven't seen many girl airbenders. Most of them were old men. The only lady was the one in the flashback "Appa's Lost Days".

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angel10113

[102]Nov 24, 2006

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kpfan72491 wrote:

you know what i just wonder one thing... i think if Zuko turns good he might help Aang learn fire bending or Zuko's uncle. but itz just a theory. i was just thinking that a second ago

personally, i think Zuko will teach him. His other bending teachers are kids so why should fire be any different. Also, in season 3 the GAang is supposed to go to the fire nation and Iroh being a famous General and part of the royal family would be easily recognized. So on that note Iroh either has to leave Zuko or something is going to happen to him. Which would probably be he...........ah, you know.

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kpfan72491

[103]Nov 24, 2006

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angel10113 wrote:

kpfan72491 wrote:

you know what i just wonder one thing... i think if Zuko turns good he might help Aang learn fire bending or Zuko's uncle. but itz just a theory. i was just thinking that a second ago

personally, i think Zuko will teach him. His other bending teachers are kids so why should fire be any different. Also, in season 3 the GAang is supposed to go to the fire nation and Iroh being a famous General and part of the royal family would be easily recognized. So on that note Iroh either has to leave Zuko or something is going to happen to him. Which would probably be he...........ah, you know.

that's true

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kataang4eva081

[104]Nov 24, 2006

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iareally wrote:

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iareally wrote:

Sokka was in love with yue, and he let her go because he had to, because it was what was better for the world. that means it shouldn't be an unthinkable thought for aang to have to do the same.

Sokka was older (more mature possibly), and Yue herself told Sokka that she needed to sacrifice herself. That had more of an impact on him. I doubt that Katara is going to stand by him (when he's with the guru) shouting "forget about me you fool, leave me!"

Its not about her leaving him, its about him realizing that loving her cant come first. I'm sure she would say that saving the world is more important than his personal feelings for her. She was support that fact!

I think you misunderstoond me. Yes, I agree with you that she would want Aang to do whats best for the world, but what I mean to say was that Yue was right there next to Sokka telling him in person that she needed to do it. Katara won't be there, so Aang will hav eto make up his decision not knowing that Katara will want him to do what's best for the world.

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iareally

[105]Nov 24, 2006

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Maylene wrote:

angel10113 wrote:

Buddhist monks aren't allowed to marry because marriage is a form of "an earthly desire" which monks are taught to avoid. But in Avatar's case the Air Nomads have to reproduce and continue their lineage somehow.

Well then the thing I read about them being ALLOWED to marry is false...And now that I think about it, so is Inuyasha. There's this character Miroku and he's a Buddhist monk yet he's going to get married.

As for the lineage thing, I think the monks in Avatar CAN get married, as angel10113 said. If they weren't, the airbenders would've died a long time ago...more than over a hundred years.

Would the writers really do this though? Have this Kataang thing 'going on' then abolish it cuz he can't be with her? Or are they trying to point us to a new ship with Aang? Or are they trying to make an internal battle happen with Aang?

I'll go with??Internal Battle for 100 points! Its called the crossroads of destiny... this is going to be the fork in the road and depending on how both Aang and Zuko choose will determind the fate of the world.

Edited on 11/24/2006 4:57pm
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blitzwing17

[106]Nov 24, 2006

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Maylene wrote:

angel10113 wrote:

Buddhist monks aren't allowed to marry because marriage is a form of "an earthly desire" which monks are taught to avoid. But in Avatar's case the Air Nomads have to reproduce and continue their lineage somehow.

Well then the thing I read about them being ALLOWED to marry is false...And now that I think about it, so is Inuyasha. There's this character Miroku and he's a Buddhist monk yet he's going to get married.

As for the lineage thing, I think the monks in Avatar CAN get married, as angel10113 said. If they weren't, the airbenders would've died a long time ago...more than over a hundred years.

Ummmm, just FYI: when you get married there is no stork that comes??by and??drops a baby off at your house.?? The air nomads don't need marriage in order to reproduce.?? In fact this is something that I was wondering about, how come people get married but we have yet to see a church, or the prsense of any religion in the show???In the??Avatar wolrd,??is marriage more along the lines of a legal proceding, or a relgious sacrement??? Thoughts?

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FFXIdude
[107]Nov 24, 2006
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I think??Air Nomads can married since then they need to reproduce, but the Avatar cannot since I see some similars of Dai Llama and there are forbidded too married
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kataang4eva081

[108]Nov 24, 2006

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blitzwing17 wrote:

Maylene wrote:

angel10113 wrote:

Buddhist monks aren't allowed to marry because marriage is a form of "an earthly desire" which monks are taught to avoid. But in Avatar's case the Air Nomads have to reproduce and continue their lineage somehow.

Well then the thing I read about them being ALLOWED to marry is false...And now that I think about it, so is Inuyasha. There's this character Miroku and he's a Buddhist monk yet he's going to get married.

As for the lineage thing, I think the monks in Avatar CAN get married, as angel10113 said. If they weren't, the airbenders would've died a long time ago...more than over a hundred years.

Ummmm, just FYI: when you get married there is no stork that comes??by and??drops a baby off at your house.?? The air nomads don't need marriage in order to reproduce.?? In fact this is something that I was wondering about, how come people get married but we have yet to see a church, or the prsense of any religion in the show???In the??Avatar wolrd,??is marriage more along the lines of a legal proceding, or a relgious sacrement??? Thoughts?

Have you forgotten the spirit world? As we saw in the North Pole, the people believed in their spirtis, the ocean and the moon. I'm guessin that each nation believes in their own spirit that recognizes their bending abilities or their own nation. But they also believe in the Spirit World as a whole. We also haven't seen any marriges so who's to say that they don't have any religous ceremonies for a marrige. I believe that they would have some sort or religous cermony or marking of the joining of two people. But I could be wrong.

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angel10113

[109]Nov 24, 2006

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blitzwing17 wrote:

Maylene wrote:

angel10113 wrote:

Buddhist monks aren't allowed to marry because marriage is a form of "an earthly desire" which monks are taught to avoid. But in Avatar's case the Air Nomads have to reproduce and continue their lineage somehow.

Well then the thing I read about them being ALLOWED to marry is false...And now that I think about it, so is Inuyasha. There's this character Miroku and he's a Buddhist monk yet he's going to get married.

As for the lineage thing, I think the monks in Avatar CAN get married, as angel10113 said. If they weren't, the airbenders would've died a long time ago...more than over a hundred years.

Ummmm, just FYI: when you get married there is no stork that comes??by and??drops a baby off at your house.?? The air nomads don't need marriage in order to reproduce.?? In fact this is something that I was wondering about, how come people get married but we have yet to see a church, or the prsense of any religion in the show???In the??Avatar wolrd,??is marriage more along the lines of a legal proceding, or a relgious sacrement??? Thoughts?

I dont think a kids show would encourage having kids without getting married. In regards to the religion thing, I dont know.

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Maylene

[110]Nov 24, 2006

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blitzwing17 wrote:

Ummmm, just FYI: when you get married there is no stork that comes??by and??drops a baby off at your house.?? The air nomads don't need marriage in order to reproduce.?? In fact this is something that I was wondering about, how come people get married but we have yet to see a church, or the prsense of any religion in the show???In the??Avatar wolrd,??is marriage more along the lines of a legal proceding, or a relgious sacrement??? Thoughts?

Dunno. It took the writers a while to show us a funeral in the Avatar world, we might have to wait for season 3 to see a marriage. I really hope we do.

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Strix_Moonwing

[111]Nov 24, 2006

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kataang4eva081 wrote:

blitzwing17 wrote:

Maylene wrote:

angel10113 wrote:

Buddhist monks aren't allowed to marry because marriage is a form of "an earthly desire" which monks are taught to avoid. But in Avatar's case the Air Nomads have to reproduce and continue their lineage somehow.

Well then the thing I read about them being ALLOWED to marry is false...And now that I think about it, so is Inuyasha. There's this character Miroku and he's a Buddhist monk yet he's going to get married.

As for the lineage thing, I think the monks in Avatar CAN get married, as angel10113 said. If they weren't, the airbenders would've died a long time ago...more than over a hundred years.

Ummmm, just FYI: when you get married there is no stork that comes??by and??drops a baby off at your house.?? The air nomads don't need marriage in order to reproduce.?? In fact this is something that I was wondering about, how come people get married but we have yet to see a church, or the prsense of any religion in the show???In the??Avatar wolrd,??is marriage more along the lines of a legal proceding, or a relgious sacrement??? Thoughts?

Have you forgotten the spirit world? As we saw in the North Pole, the people believed in their spirtis, the ocean and the moon. I'm guessin that each nation believes in their own spirit that recognizes their bending abilities or their own nation. But they also believe in the Spirit World as a whole. We also haven't seen any marriges so who's to say that they don't have any religous ceremonies for a marrige. I believe that they would have some sort or religous cermony or marking of the joining of two people. But I could be wrong.

The Water tribes have a ceremony for engagement(carving a necklace), so I would say there has to be a ceremony of some kind for marriage.

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gotmelc

[112]Nov 24, 2006

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Strix_Moonwing wrote:

angel10113 wrote:

kataang4eva081 wrote:

iareally wrote:

gotmelc wrote:

iareally wrote:

darth_mage wrote:

Aang and Katara have no future. His first priority is being the Avatar, this isn't soemthing new either, remember in the first season they made their way to the fire nation temple even though aang was barely trained in the other elements and katara's water bending skills weren't that great at all, risking all their lives because he had to. He will give her up there can be no doubt about it, doesn't mean that it will be easy for him though.

Totally agree with you! His first and far most important duty is to save the world. Period! End of story. I'm not say that he has to give her up as a friend, or even as a fighting buddy but hopefully he's realize where his real responiblity is.

ok im not trying to be meen or anything, but i mean even though aang is the avatar, he's the ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD WHO CAN'T LOVE. sure, he HAS to save the world, but maybe theres some other feelings he has, fer a someone aka katara. i meen, aang KNOWS his first reponsbility is to be the avatar and save the world, and what not... but he can love, he has feelings and he is human., why should being the avatar stop him by feeling love?

I did'nt say he couldn't love, we already know he does. He just cant let that stand in the way of everything else he has to do. Plus its not like Katara is going to be the last girl he'll ever meet. Also isn't it more important that Aang learn how to master being the avatar even if it means letting Katara go if it means it'll save the world? If he doesn't do what needs to be done (and that may include letting katara go) and he doesn't beat the fire lord then there wont be much of a world left for anyone to be in love in will there?

Maybe there is a way to have both. In every movie where a guy has to save the world he "gets the girl and saves the world". Then again, avatar is far from normal. Aang is in love Katara too much to simply give her up. Its going to break his little heart. Think what happened when only his pet was taken. Now substitute pet for "true love". If that in its self won't put him into the avatar state , nothing will. He has a hard decision to make. Maybe he'll find a way to get both, hopefully.

Long live Kataang!

it's kind of hard to believe that a 12-year old kid knows what?? true love is and second, his feelings for Katarra??can and probably will??cloud his judgement about the choices he makes. Continuing with the Star Wars comparison, Anakin Skywalker killed just about all the Jedi, people who were supposed to be his family and friends, to protect the one he loves. Being the avatar Aang has the power to do something like that. Remember what he did to the Earth Kingdom base in "The Avatar State".

I believe that what Aang is feeling is true love. Katara was the first person Aang ever saw after being brought to live after many years and that created a special bond between the two that can not be broken. This bond may or may not be true love but it is there and nothing the Guru says can make Aang give it up. Also, I know this may be alittle off topic, but is it true that monks can't marry? Aren't they not allowed too?

ok true that aang might be too young to feel love, but i mean, i dont want him to give it up, but fer the sake of the world he HAS too.... i meen, people sometimes spend a lifetime finding love, and aang's right in front of it and has to give it up.. love and saving the world can both be equal in importance, i mean, saving the world= its his duty, and he was born the hero, he cant just throw away his destiny... love= its his feeling and emotions, and he really feels love, should take it or throw it away? but as the avatar, he has the most improtat duty to save the world than have love get in the way... both sides has good points, its aang's decision, and BOY IS IT A HARD ONE! i hope aang can do both, love and save the world.... but i think it may be impossible, cause the guru said so.... its an on going discussion about his choice, we'll just have to see on december 1st.

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blitzwing17
[113]Nov 24, 2006
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Thats true I had forgotten about the necklace thing.

From what im hearing the responses, it sounds like every nation has it's own marriage ceremony.

Just off the top of my head I can Imagine firanation marrige having something to do with the bride and groom lighting of candles. The water tribe might have them mix 2 different colored waters. The earth tribe would have them uhhh, break a rock maybe?
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Strix_Moonwing

[114]Nov 24, 2006

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blitzwing17 wrote:

Thats true I had forgotten about the necklace thing.

From what im hearing the responses, it sounds like every nation has it's own marriage ceremony.

Just off the top of my head I can Imagine firanation marrige having something to do with the bride and groom lighting of candles. The water tribe might have them mix 2 different colored waters. The earth tribe would have them uhhh, break a rock maybe?

The groom has knock his forehead against a boulder until it cracks to proof his love it unbreakable....er....or something like that!XD

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blitzwing17
[115]Nov 24, 2006
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K, earthnation weddings have the bride and groom earthbend to close a hole in a mountain side. Why, you ask? Because love can move mountains!!

Bad joke i know, throw spoiled fruit at will.
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blitzwing17

[116]Nov 24, 2006

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Strix_Moonwing wrote:

blitzwing17 wrote:

Thats true I had forgotten about the necklace thing. From what im hearing the responses, it sounds like every nation has it's own marriage ceremony. Just off the top of my head I can Imagine firanation marrige having something to do with the bride and groom lighting of candles. The water tribe might have them mix 2 different colored waters. The earth tribe would have them uhhh, break a rock maybe?

The groom has knock his forehead against a boulder until it cracks to proof his love it unbreakable....er....or something like that!XD

At least that would explain the spitting head ache??you wake up with after one crazy night one the town in Ba Sing Se(the Vegas of the Avatar world).

*holds head*

"what did i do last night?"

*looks at finger*

??"I have got to stay off the cactus juice."

Edited on 11/24/2006 5:56pm
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K4A5T6A5A4N6G
[117]Nov 24, 2006
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wooooooow ang giving up katara to enter the avatar state,zuko,azula and iroh trapped togheter in a cave,aang and the gang vs azula and aang controlling the avatar state.
??how is aang going to give up katara???will zuko cooperate to defeat azula?
see it on season finale.
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angel10113
[118]Nov 24, 2006
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Getting back to the trailer. Does anyone have any thoughts about giant starry Aang?
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K4A5T6A5A4N6G
[119]Nov 24, 2006
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it could be maybe the dark avatar?(MAYBE NOT THAT IT IS MAYBE!!!).
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Strix_Moonwing

[120]Nov 24, 2006

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blitzwing17 wrote:

Strix_Moonwing wrote:

blitzwing17 wrote:

Thats true I had forgotten about the necklace thing.

From what im hearing the responses, it sounds like every nation has it's own marriage ceremony.

Just off the top of my head I can Imagine firanation marrige having something to do with the bride and groom lighting of candles. The water tribe might have them mix 2 different colored waters. The earth tribe would have them uhhh, break a rock maybe?

The groom has knock his forehead against a boulder until it cracks to proof his love it unbreakable....er....or something like that!XD

At least that would explain the spitting head you wake up with afterwards after one crazy night one the town in Ba Sing Se(the Vegas of the Avatar world).

*holds head*
"what did i do last night?"
*looks at finger*
"I have got to stay off the cactus juice."

OMG! Hahahahhah!XD(dies laughing)

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