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    TitanPredator

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Hmm... maybe we can talk about how Steve (I think that's his name. The lead swampbender who was all GAH MONSTER ATTACK) is a powerful bender. I doubt Katara could bend all of those plants.

    His name is Huu is thought. And he is strong. Probably stronger than Hama. Hama can only bloodbend during full moon, while Huu can bend swampmonsters anytime.

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    isabelwhatx

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    TitanPredator wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Hmm... maybe we can talk about how Steve (I think that's his name. The lead swampbender who was all GAH MONSTER ATTACK) is a powerful bender. I doubt Katara could bend all of those plants.

    His name is Huu is thought. And he is strong. Probably stronger than Hama. Hama can only bloodbend during full moon, while Huu can bend swampmonsters anytime.


    I remember they called him some really bland name and Sokka was like "Really? That's your name?" I wonder why no one recognizes him as a great bender.
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Hmm... maybe we can talk about how Steve (I think that's his name. The lead swampbender who was all GAH MONSTER ATTACK) is a powerful bender. I doubt Katara could bend all of those plants.

    His name is Huu is thought. And he is strong. Probably stronger than Hama. Hama can only bloodbend during full moon, while Huu can bend swampmonsters anytime.

    I remember they called him some really bland name and Sokka was like "Really? That's your name?" I wonder why no one recognizes him as a great bender.

    I do, but he's not as good as Katara or Pakku!

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    He's like Combustion Man - he might look good, and his attacks might be big and flashy, but get him outside of his ideal environment, and he doesn't fare so well.
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Hmm... maybe we can talk about how Steve (I think that's his name. The lead swampbender who was all GAH MONSTER ATTACK) is a powerful bender. I doubt Katara could bend all of those plants.

    His name is Huu is thought. And he is strong. Probably stronger than Hama. Hama can only bloodbend during full moon, while Huu can bend swampmonsters anytime.


    I remember they called him some really bland name and Sokka was like "Really? That's your name?" I wonder why no one recognizes him as a great bender.
    He is extremely powerful, probably could beat Hama in most places and situations (apart from the full moon). But Hama has had to discover all these techniques by herself... Blood-Bending, Plant-Bending, pulling Water out of thin Air. She has had to learn this all by herself, with no teacher or guide, so at least give her that.
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    TitanPredator wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Hmm... maybe we can talk about how Steve (I think that's his name. The lead swampbender who was all GAH MONSTER ATTACK) is a powerful bender. I doubt Katara could bend all of those plants.

    His name is Huu is thought. And he is strong. Probably stronger than Hama. Hama can only bloodbend during full moon, while Huu can bend swampmonsters anytime.

    I remember they called him some really bland name and Sokka was like "Really? That's your name?" I wonder why no one recognizes him as a great bender.

    I do, but he's not as good as Katara or Pakku!

    This is correct.
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    isabelwhatx

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    Axrendale wrote:
    He's like Combustion Man - he might look good, and his attacks might be big and flashy, but get him outside of his ideal environment, and he doesn't fare so well.

    Hmm, that's true.

    thiscrazyguy wrote:
    He is extremely powerful, probably could beat Hama in most places and situations (apart from the full moon). But Hama has had to discover all these techniques by herself... Blood-Bending, Plant-Bending, pulling Water out of thin Air. She has had to learn this all by herself, with no teacher or guide, so at least give her that.

    So did the monster bending weed WOOT guy. No one else in the tribe does what he does.
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    He's like Combustion Man - he might look good, and his attacks might be big and flashy, but get him outside of his ideal environment, and he doesn't fare so well.

    Hmm, that's true.

    thiscrazyguy wrote:
    He is extremely powerful, probably could beat Hama in most places and situations (apart from the full moon). But Hama has had to discover all these techniques by herself... Blood-Bending, Plant-Bending, pulling Water out of thin Air. She has had to learn this all by herself, with no teacher or guide, so at least give her that.

    So did the monster bending weed WOOT guy. No one else in the tribe does what he does.
    But I am talking about EVERY single Waterbending form... Hama has them all covered and mastered... Just like Katara has every single Waterbending form mastered. There isn't one thing either oh them two CAN'T do with Water. What on earth would Huu do against Hama in either of the poles or a desert or under a full moon...? What if there is no form of plant-life around...? Yeah, sure, in places like a desert, he might be able to pull water out of cactus's or something, but he is going top need so much more than that. Under a full moon, we know he would die, in the poles (there is nothing more than grass in the spirit oasis of the North Pole) he would probably get defeated 9-1 (and I'm being nice to him). Virtually any other place without plants, is his weaknedd... If it was on sheer, flat land, he would get defeated, as Hama can pull Water out of thin Air. Hama is overall the more powerful bender in my views... And while I am at it, yes, Axrendale, you are right, I mentioned this about 5 pages ago , the fact that Azula was able to out-smart The Avatar, The most powerful Earthbender in the whole damn show, and Sokka (he is very smart and intelligent, is thought of as the brains of the operation), just goes to show. She also challenged Toph's (thought to be uniquely unmatched) senses by controling her own heart-beat, and out-ran Aang (who is meant to be intensely, extremely fast (especially considering his Airbending backround (they are known to run faster than almost anything by controling air currents))), TOPH, who is probably a fast runner (to be fair on Toph, she could have just tunneled threw the Earth, but I'll leave that debate for another day), and Sokka, a fast runner too. USING HER SIGNATURE MANIPULATION AND LEGENDARY TACTICS, SHE DID ALL OF THIS IN THE COURSE OF 8 MINUTES... WITHOUT HER BENDING!!!!
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    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    He's like Combustion Man - he might look good, and his attacks might be big and flashy, but get him outside of his ideal environment, and he doesn't fare so well.

    Hmm, that's true.

    thiscrazyguy wrote:
    He is extremely powerful, probably could beat Hama in most places and situations (apart from the full moon). But Hama has had to discover all these techniques by herself... Blood-Bending, Plant-Bending, pulling Water out of thin Air. She has had to learn this all by herself, with no teacher or guide, so at least give her that.

    So did the monster bending weed WOOT guy. No one else in the tribe does what he does.
    But I am talking about EVERY single Waterbending form... Hama has them all covered and mastered... Just like Katara has every single Waterbending form mastered. There isn't one thing either oh them two CAN'T do with Water. What on earth would Huu do against Hama in either of the poles or a desert or under a full moon...? What if there is no form of plant-life around...? Yeah, sure, in places like a desert, he might be able to pull water out of cactus's or something, but he is going top need so much more than that. Under a full moon, we know he would die, in the poles (there is nothing more than grass in the spirit oasis of the North Pole) he would probably get defeated 9-1 (and I'm being nice to him). Virtually any other place without plants, is his weaknedd... If it was on sheer, flat land, he would get defeated, as Hama can pull Water out of thin Air. Hama is overall the more powerful bender in my views... And while I am at it, yes, Axrendale, you are right, I mentioned this about 5 pages ago , the fact that Azula was able to out-smart The Avatar, The most powerful Earthbender in the whole damn show, and Sokka (he is very smart and intelligent, is thought of as the brains of the operation), just goes to show. She also challenged Toph's (thought to be uniquely unmatched) senses by controling her own heart-beat, and out-ran Aang (who is meant to be intensely, extremely fast (especially considering his Airbending backround (they are known to run faster than almost anything by controling air currents))), TOPH, who is probably a fast runner (to be fair on Toph, she could have just tunneled threw the Earth, but I'll leave that debate for another day), and Sokka, a fast runner too. USING HER SIGNATURE MANIPULATION AND LEGENDARY TACTICS, SHE DID ALL OF THIS IN THE COURSE OF 8 MINUTES... WITHOUT HER BENDING!!!!
    Please know that I think Huu is an amazing character and I really like him!
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    isabelwhatx

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    Lol, I know he would probably lose. But I'm just pointing out he is ALSO self taught. And Hama has not mastered every form of waterbending. It has never been said that she was a master.
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    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:
    He's like Combustion Man - he might look good, and his attacks might be big and flashy, but get him outside of his ideal environment, and he doesn't fare so well.
    Hmm, that's true.
    thiscrazyguy wrote:
    He is extremely powerful, probably could beat Hama in most places and situations (apart from the full moon). But Hama has had to discover all these techniques by herself... Blood-Bending, Plant-Bending, pulling Water out of thin Air. She has had to learn this all by herself, with no teacher or guide, so at least give her that.
    So did the monster bending weed WOOT guy. No one else in the tribe does what he does.
    But I am talking about EVERY single Waterbending form... Hama has them all covered and mastered... Just like Katara has every single Waterbending form mastered. There isn't one thing either oh them two CAN'T do with Water. What on earth would Huu do against Hama in either of the poles or a desert or under a full moon...? What if there is no form of plant-life around...? Yeah, sure, in places like a desert, he might be able to pull water out of cactus's or something, but he is going top need so much more than that. Under a full moon, we know he would die, in the poles (there is nothing more than grass in the spirit oasis of the North Pole) he would probably get defeated 9-1 (and I'm being nice to him). Virtually any other place without plants, is his weaknedd... If it was on sheer, flat land, he would get defeated, as Hama can pull Water out of thin Air. Hama is overall the more powerful bender in my views... And while I am at it, yes, Axrendale, you are right, I mentioned this about 5 pages ago , the fact that Azula was able to out-smart The Avatar, The most powerful Earthbender in the whole damn show, and Sokka (he is very smart and intelligent, is thought of as the brains of the operation), just goes to show. She also challenged Toph's (thought to be uniquely unmatched) senses by controling her own heart-beat, and out-ran Aang (who is meant to be intensely, extremely fast (especially considering his Airbending backround (they are known to run faster than almost anything by controling air currents))), TOPH, who is probably a fast runner (to be fair on Toph, she could have just tunneled threw the Earth, but I'll leave that debate for another day), and Sokka, a fast runner too. USING HER SIGNATURE MANIPULATION AND LEGENDARY TACTICS, SHE DID ALL OF THIS IN THE COURSE OF 8 MINUTES... WITHOUT HER BENDING!!!!

    On the poles there is alot of water, and I'm prity sure Huu can also freeze water and bender regular water, not only plants. So onthe poles I think Huu would own Hama, just like in a Swamp.

    And yes, Azula showed some crazy things, but I still think JJ can beat her. JJ is very wise, he will NEVER EVER fall for Azula's tricks. Azula can might have a chance at winning if she can outlast him. I'm sure she can, but I'm also prity sure Jeong Jeong can find a way to defeat Azula. Jeong Jeong probably knows her weaknesses within seconds. He can tell by her stands, the way she walks. AND CONTROLING YOU HARTBEAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. AZULA CAN'T HIDE HOW SHE WALKS AND STANDS. Just my view of it. We will never agree on that.

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    isabelwhatx

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    Iroh is just as wise (if not wiser) than Jeong Jeong and Azula found a way to convince him to get on her navy ship to be captured in the second book. The only person she couldn't trick could possibly be Toph, but even then I'm doubtful. And it doesn't matter, Azula really doesn't have a weakness except for her insanity and her lack of killing her opponent immediately. If it was a one on one fight, Jeong Jeong would be long gone because her second weakness wouldn't come into play and we're assuming she's not insane yet.
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    Iroh, Ozai, Zuko, the gaang, Long Feng - it's very, very hard to find someone who hasn't fallen for Azula's tricks at some point or another. If Azula can trick all of those people, what makes Jeong Jeong any different?
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    Axrendale wrote:
    Iroh, Ozai, Zuko, the gaang, Long Feng - it's very, very hard to find someone who hasn't fallen for Azula's tricks at some point or another. If Azula can trick all of those people, what makes Jeong Jeong any different?

    He's a bit blunt, sometimes. He was wiser that Roku. And Zuko isn't very smart. Iroh went to protect Zuko, he didn't fall for her tricks. The gaang are just children. Long Feng was impressive though. But what could she possibly trick Jeong Jeong with. He would probably ignore her, just like Iroh would in a 1 vs 1 fight.

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    TitanPredator wrote:

    Axrendale wrote:
    Iroh, Ozai, Zuko, the gaang, Long Feng - it's very, very hard to find someone who hasn't fallen for Azula's tricks at some point or another. If Azula can trick all of those people, what makes Jeong Jeong any different?

    He's a bit blunt, sometimes. He was wiser that Roku. And Zuko isn't very smart. Iroh went to protect Zuko, he didn't fall for her tricks. The gaang are just children. Long Feng was impressive though. But what could she possibly trick Jeong Jeong with. He would probably ignore her, just like Iroh would in a 1 vs 1 fight.


    It doesn't matter WHY Iroh did what he did, Azula still managed to get him to do it, which means she tricked him. Who said Jeong Jeong was more wise than Roku? Roku might've been a bit childish with his decisions, but he isn't exactly dumb.
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Lol, I know he would probably lose. But I'm just pointing out he is ALSO self taught. And Hama has not mastered every form of waterbending. It has never been said that she was a master.
    But he is not self-taught in every form of Waterbending like Hama is, is what I was saying... And Hama is a Waterbending master... Re-watch The Puppetmaster... She specifically states herself a master: She says something like "Oh Katara, with TWO WATERBENDING MASTERS under a full moon, what could possibly happen?", when Katara was stating her fear of going out to the forest during a full moon because of the rumours she had been hearing... I don't strike Hama as the type of person (despite how evil she is) who would deam herself a master and not actually be a master... Azula has never really been stated to be a Firebending master, but it's no secret; she sure as hell is... It doesn't need to be said or stated by them, to confirm their mastery over their element, you just need to watch them. Besides, Hama DID state she was a master. Please don't think I am trying to be mean, this is just my view...
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:

    Axrendale wrote:
    Iroh, Ozai, Zuko, the gaang, Long Feng - it's very, very hard to find someone who hasn't fallen for Azula's tricks at some point or another. If Azula can trick all of those people, what makes Jeong Jeong any different?

    He's a bit blunt, sometimes. He was wiser that Roku. And Zuko isn't very smart. Iroh went to protect Zuko, he didn't fall for her tricks. The gaang are just children. Long Feng was impressive though. But what could she possibly trick Jeong Jeong with. He would probably ignore her, just like Iroh would in a 1 vs 1 fight.

    It doesn't matter WHY Iroh did what he did, Azula still managed to get him to do it, which means she tricked him. Who said Jeong Jeong was more wise than Roku? Roku might've been a bit childish with his decisions, but he isn't exactly dumb.

    Jeong Jeong knew Aang wasn't ready for firebending, while Roku thought he was, so. Iroh never believed Azula, and in a 1 0n 1 fight, he wouldn't have believed her. And we are talking now about a 1 on 1 fight. And anyway, Jeong Jeong could also start talking about her mother, how her friend betrayed her, how she couldn't handle the resposibily of being Firelord, and then she collapses once again, and then she will get her ass kicked.

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:

    Axrendale wrote:
    Iroh, Ozai, Zuko, the gaang, Long Feng - it's very, very hard to find someone who hasn't fallen for Azula's tricks at some point or another. If Azula can trick all of those people, what makes Jeong Jeong any different?

    He's a bit blunt, sometimes. He was wiser that Roku. And Zuko isn't very smart. Iroh went to protect Zuko, he didn't fall for her tricks. The gaang are just children. Long Feng was impressive though. But what could she possibly trick Jeong Jeong with. He would probably ignore her, just like Iroh would in a 1 vs 1 fight.


    It doesn't matter WHY Iroh did what he did, Azula still managed to get him to do it, which means she tricked him. Who said Jeong Jeong was more wise than Roku? Roku might've been a bit childish with his decisions, but he isn't exactly dumb.
    Well, I said Jeong Jeong was smarter than Roku in that situation (Aang learning Firebending) a few pages back, because he kinda was, but on a 24/7 regular basis, no one beats Roku in intelligence.
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    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Lol, I know he would probably lose. But I'm just pointing out he is ALSO self taught. And Hama has not mastered every form of waterbending. It has never been said that she was a master.
    But he is not self-taught in every form of Waterbending like Hama is,

    Not true. Hamma grew up surrounded by other waterbenders who taught her how to bend. I will admit she's a master, though.
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    TitanPredator wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:

    Axrendale wrote:
    Iroh, Ozai, Zuko, the gaang, Long Feng - it's very, very hard to find someone who hasn't fallen for Azula's tricks at some point or another. If Azula can trick all of those people, what makes Jeong Jeong any different?

    He's a bit blunt, sometimes. He was wiser that Roku. And Zuko isn't very smart. Iroh went to protect Zuko, he didn't fall for her tricks. The gaang are just children. Long Feng was impressive though. But what could she possibly trick Jeong Jeong with. He would probably ignore her, just like Iroh would in a 1 vs 1 fight.

    It doesn't matter WHY Iroh did what he did, Azula still managed to get him to do it, which means she tricked him. Who said Jeong Jeong was more wise than Roku? Roku might've been a bit childish with his decisions, but he isn't exactly dumb.

    Jeong Jeong knew Aang wasn't ready for firebending, while Roku thought he was, so. Iroh never believed Azula, and in a 1 0n 1 fight, he wouldn't have believed her. And we are talking now about a 1 on 1 fight. And anyway, Jeong Jeong could also start talking about her mother, how her friend betrayed her, how she couldn't handle the resposibily of being Firelord, and then she collapses once again, and then she will get her ass kicked.


    I'm sure he wouldn't be able to get that from her. No one knows about it except for her and possibly Zuko. Plus, Azula is pretty heartless. Even when everyone was screaming and crying in The Beach, when Azula made her confession she was only slightly moved. It would take much more than a few words to get her to collapse. I'm sure Azula could find some way to trick Jeong Jeong. She could taunt him about how he's afraid of fire and that he shouldn't use it. THAT would be very plain to see. When Jeong Jeong would fight he would have a slight moment of hesitation and Azula would recognize that.
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