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MAN this aspect of waterbending has been bothering me!

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    cjclifford

    [21]Sep 17, 2006
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    Ah, the age old art of trying to apply science to a fictional realm.?? Earthbenders are floating rocks around in the air.?? Explain that scientifically. ??

    Waterbending doesn't have to make any sort of real world sense.?? If you're able to accept these characters are able to magically float water around through the air, you should be able to accept they can also use that water to cut metal and grab people.
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    Eman5805

    [22]Sep 17, 2006
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    cjclifford wrote:
    Ah, the age old art of trying to apply science to a fictional realm.?? Earthbenders are floating rocks around in the air.?? Explain that scientifically. ??

    Waterbending doesn't have to make any sort of real world sense.?? If you're able to accept these characters are able to magically float water around through the air, you should be able to accept they can also use that water to cut metal and grab people.

    kinda like watching watching Godzilla and complaining about how its impossible??he can??breathe fire? yet you can accept??equally impossible??the fact that there's a 500 foot tall lizard stomping around...

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    pokemon61

    [23]Sep 17, 2006
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    This is one of the easiest answers in the world. basicaly easier than 2+2. even easier than 1+1. Only 3 words and they are: IT'S A CARTOON
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    e-hero-will

    [24]Sep 17, 2006
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    It doesn't cut through it, it chips it. If it moves fast enough yeah it can chip metal. AND it could've been icy water!
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    e-hero-will

    [25]Sep 17, 2006
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    Oh yes and for the metal thing, in episode 17 it was said that the tanks had a weakness to water, so that probably means that water is good against other fire nation metal materials.
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    Airawende

    [26]Sep 17, 2006
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    cjclifford wrote:
    Ah, the age old art of trying to apply science to a fictional realm.?? Earthbenders are floating rocks around in the air.?? Explain that scientifically. ??

    Waterbending doesn't have to make any sort of real world sense.?? If you're able to accept these characters are able to magically float water around through the air, you should be able to accept they can also use that water to cut metal and grab people.

    Thank you! All this science mumbo-jumbo doesn't need to be involved. It's a cartoon...it's fiction! If Mike and Brian write it, it happens, regardless of whether or not it makes sense in a scientific way.

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    JBMaunier4Ever

    [27]Sep 20, 2006
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    Making a water whip solid enough to grab people, and yet have it still be in liquid state... You can't really explain something like this in any scientific terms, and be all technical with it... It's a cartoon... Other characters in other cartoons/comics/whatever have also been able to do these kinds of things. Remember Pyro, from Marvel? He's able to manipulate fire in pretty much the same way that Katara's able to manipulate water. His fiery creations are also capable of becoming??"solid" fire, in that it is still fire, but it's a fire that can grab onto things (example: if he creates a fire hawk, it's able to physically swoop down, and grab onto something/somebody, and carry them away in its talons. Yet, this hawk is made purely of fire!), and Pyro's doing this purely through his ability to manipulate the fire. Katara's pretty much doing the exact same thing, except with water. She's just naturally able to bend the water like that, to form "solid water", to grab onto objects with.

    As for being able to cut through metal with water, I'm suspecting that she's doing something similar with her bending: manipulating the water so that it has a certain degree of being "solid water", and then just using it to saw through the metal??in a??quick,??sharp, and precise??manner. When I saw "The Drill", I wasn't at all surprised that Katara and Aang were able to saw into the metal with their combined efforts in waterbending...

    Edited on 09/20/2006 10:06am
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    UGamer08

    [28]Sep 20, 2006
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    JBMaunier4Ever wrote:

    Making a water whip solid enough to grab people, and yet have it still be in liquid state... You can't really explain something like this in any scientific terms, and be all technical with it... It's a cartoon... Other characters in other cartoons/comics/whatever have also been able to do these kinds of things. Remember Pyro, from Marvel? He's able to manipulate fire in pretty much the same way that Katara's able to manipulate water. His fiery creations are also capable of becoming??"solid" fire, in that it is still fire, but it's a fire that can grab onto things (example: if he creates a fire hawk, it's able to physically swoop down, and grab onto something/somebody, and carry them away in its talons. Yet, this hawk is made purely of fire!), and Pyro's doing this purely through his ability to manipulate the fire. Katara's pretty much doing the exact same thing, except with water. She's just naturally able to bend the water like that, to form "solid water", to grab onto objects with.

    As for being able to cut through metal with water, I'm suspecting that she's doing something similar with her bending: manipulating the water so that it has a certain degree of being "solid water", and then just using it to saw through the metal??in a??quick,??sharp, and precise??manner. When I saw "The Drill", I wasn't at all surprised that Katara and Aang were able to saw into the metal with their combined efforts in waterbending...



    Huh, 3 days.
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    starreh

    [29]Sep 20, 2006
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    IT CAN DO ALL THAT BECAUSE IT'S A CARTOON.
    There ya go.
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    leeo268

    [29]Sep 20, 2006
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    Just cartoon,
    no science
    no law of physic

    basically any thing is possible.
    dont ask why or how
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    JBMaunier4Ever

    [30]Sep 20, 2006
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    UGamer08 wrote:
    JBMaunier4Ever wrote:
    Making a water whip solid enough to grab people, and yet have it still be in liquid state... You can't really explain something like this in any scientific terms, and be all technical with it... It's a cartoon... Other characters in other cartoons/comics/whatever have also been able to do these kinds of things. Remember Pyro, from Marvel? He's able to manipulate fire in pretty much the same way that Katara's able to manipulate water. His fiery creations are also capable of becoming??"solid" fire, in that it is still fire, but it's a fire that can grab onto things (example: if he creates a fire hawk, it's able to physically swoop down, and grab onto something/somebody, and carry them away in its talons. Yet, this hawk is made purely of fire!), and Pyro's doing this purely through his ability to manipulate the fire. Katara's pretty much doing the exact same thing, except with water. She's just naturally able to bend the water like that, to form "solid water", to grab onto objects with.

    As for being able to cut through metal with water, I'm suspecting that she's doing something similar with her bending: manipulating the water so that it has a certain degree of being "solid water", and then just using it to saw through the metal??in a??quick,??sharp, and precise??manner. When I saw "The Drill", I wasn't at all surprised that Katara and Aang were able to saw into the metal with their combined efforts in waterbending...

    Huh, 3 days.

    ...Um...what? Not quite sure what you mean by your reply, lol...XD

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    cisalpine

    [31]Sep 20, 2006
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    leeo268 wrote:

    dont ask why or how

    And remember... big brother is watching you.

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    starreh

    [32]Sep 20, 2006
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    cisalpine wrote:

    leeo268 wrote:

    dont ask why or how

    And remember... big brother is watching you.



    Oooh, you crack me up, you.
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    ellistein

    [33]Sep 21, 2006
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    Ok everyone here is really trying hard to explain water bending and i gotta admit that a lot of hard brainstorming and research has been going on, unfortunatly its all being used w/o proper application.
    ??????????????
    First off, yes, water uses H bonds which is one reason why water sticks together. But what hasn't been mentioned is that H bonds are extremely weak intermolecular bonds and broken quite easily. And the strength of and H bond isn't due to dipole dipole momments, they are relative to its bond distance and angle. Dipole dipole momments are what creats waters surface tension and does contribute to its strength to stick together, but again these are weak bonds and are constratly being broken and reformed. This is why when you belly flop off the high dive you get that initial *slap* then sink into the water feeling like an idiot.

    Also water CAN cut through metal, its just takes a couple hundred years of wear and tear. And yes water does expands when it freezes, but not enough to warp, bend, or even less so cut through metal.

    So the answer to your questions are:
    #1. Its a cartoon
    #2. Its a cartoon

    now please pretty pretty pretty please leave science out of the show!!!
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    UGamer08

    [34]Sep 21, 2006
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    ellistein wrote:
    Ok everyone here is really trying hard to explain water bending and i gotta admit that a lot of hard brainstorming and research has been going on, unfortunatly its all being used w/o proper application.
    ??????????????
    First off, yes, water uses H bonds which is one reason why water sticks together. But what hasn't been mentioned is that H bonds are extremely weak intermolecular bonds and broken quite easily. And the strength of and H bond isn't due to dipole dipole momments, they are relative to its bond distance and angle. Dipole dipole momments are what creats waters surface tension and does contribute to its strength to stick together, but again these are weak bonds and are constratly being broken and reformed. This is why when you belly flop off the high dive you get that initial *slap* then sink into the water feeling like an idiot.

    Also water CAN cut through metal, its just takes a couple hundred years of wear and tear. And yes water does expands when it freezes, but not enough to warp, bend, or even less so cut through metal.

    So the answer to your questions are:
    #1. Its a cartoon
    #2. Its a cartoon

    now please pretty pretty pretty please leave science out of the show!!!


    How many times does this really need to be said? { Heck how many times does this need to be said?
    Edited on 09/21/2006 8:27am
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    lionfamlee

    [35]Sep 21, 2006
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    Physics
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    tvfreakelik

    [36]Sep 21, 2006
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    just so you know waterbenders actually control the water. its not like fire where you shoot it out and after its left you you can't control it. so with the waterbending thing around the leg/arm, kataras using her abilities to manipulate the water. think of it as an extension of the arm, only its water.
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    tvfreakelik

    [37]Sep 21, 2006
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    just so you know waterbenders actually control the water. its not like fire where you shoot it out and after its left you you can't control it. so with the waterbending thing around the leg/arm, kataras using her abilities to manipulate the water. think of it as an extension of the arm, only its water.
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    C1991

    [38]Sep 21, 2006
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    godzilla doesn't breathe fire, it's radioactive sludge that lights things on fire (or something like that)
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    Hoshie26

    [39]Sep 21, 2006
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    One word.Waterbender.We are awesome in that way where science doesnt aply(even if we dug up einstein he could exsplain).We rock.Get over it.
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