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Kataang vs Zutara odds

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    AnimeAngel90

    [81]Apr 21, 2008
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    I do agree with you there - zutara hug happens BEFORE kataang "kiss" (and those people who said she left aang and ran into zuko's arms.....umm, seriously? What's wrong with you?), judging by clothes and stuff.

    And as long as an epic zutara friendship is formed, and the finale battle is awesome, I'll be happy. By the way, I loved the earlier, unbiased analysis of the kiss. Nice work
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    caseybocook

    [82]Apr 21, 2008
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    Kataang- 99.9%

    Zutara- 0.01%

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    AnimeAngel90

    [83]Apr 21, 2008
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    Odds that Bryke are messing with the entire fandom: 100% (kataangers especially - giving you false hope with another doomed kiss)

    Odds that people will repeat the same arguments over and over again in rebutting trailer zutara evidence: 100%

    Odds that kataangers and zutarians will both believe in their ship even after katara's choice is confirmed: 100%

    And I changed my mind. Zutara = 75%, kataang = 20%, Other = 5% (who knows, there could be a surprise in store for more than just the kataangers )
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    SplitReflection

    [84]Apr 21, 2008
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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    Odds that Bryke are messing with the entire fandom: 100% (kataangers especially - giving you false hope with another doomed kiss) Odds that people will repeat the same arguments over and over again in rebutting trailer zutara evidence: 100% Odds that kataangers and zutarians will both believe in their ship even after katara's choice is confirmed: 100% And I changed my mind. Zutara = 75%, kataang = 20%, Other = 5% (who knows, there could be a surprise in store for more than just the kataangers )

    So you're offering 5:1 odds on Kataang happening? I believe I will bet 20,000 space clams on Kataang.

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    Zhaguar_

    [85]Apr 21, 2008
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    Valtiel930 wrote:
    WiseIroh wrote:
    Spike815 wrote:
    Yeah, 95-5 is pretty accurate. Maybe 95-4, leaving 1% for something unexpected.
    Like Kazula maybe? *that '70's show imagine scene kicks in* Azula is getting undressed while katara is waiting for her in a bed full of rose petals, while Aang, Sokka and Zuko watch from inside the closet *imagination ends* *me smiling*
    hope I can keep that image in my head till I get to the bathroom.

    mike and brian confirmed it would be either zukoor aang so no 1% is needed

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    rockon45

    [86]Apr 21, 2008
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    they might trick us, but yea, best bet is 50/50 odds.
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    picaboomman

    [87]Apr 21, 2008
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    75%kataang
    25%zutara
    im a zutarian...but the hug meant s**t

    1) she was sorry
    2) he was sad
    3) someone died
    4) she/he was worried
    5) he helped her with something big
    6) i could go on with these

    trailers always get us to think something different. the trailers are always unpredictable. the commercials from CoD and the waterbending scroll were the same..this won't be a trailer, but i can garuntee you 92% it is something different than what we think. the kiss and katara backing away might have meant she saw something in the distance, she wasnt ready, she wasnt sure what to do, or she didnt know if she could be with aang
    always think the opposite
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    LeonMorado

    [88]Apr 21, 2008
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    she's over the bitterness, she trusts zuko. it means quite a bit.

    but more importantly, if you know anything about probability, you know that odds mean jack when it comes to works of fiction, since the only possible outcome determined by the writers.
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    iareally

    [89]Apr 21, 2008
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    picaboomman wrote:
    75%kataang
    25%zutara
    im a zutarian...but the hug meant s**t

    1) she was sorry
    2) he was sad
    3) someone died
    4) she/he was worried
    5) he helped her with something big
    6) i could go on with these

    trailers always get us to think something different. the trailers are always unpredictable. the commercials from CoD and the waterbending scroll were the same..this won't be a trailer, but i can garuntee you 92% it is something different than what we think. the kiss and katara backing away might have meant she saw something in the distance, she wasnt ready, she wasnt sure what to do, or she didnt know if she could be with aang
    always think the opposite


    I have to agree, the hug doesn't suddenly mean they are engaged. I'm just happy they are having some kind of a positive interaction. After the last scene in WAT its just great to know that they are able to move on to something more positive.
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    joeking14

    [90]Apr 21, 2008
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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    This trailer has at least 5 pro-zutara moments, and 1 anti-kataang moment.

    Tell me th other 4 pro-Zutara moments please the closest to 1 I saw was a hug, the anti-Kataang kiss was very much anti-Kataang she had the look of shock before she kissed him it looks more like "omg something major justed happened" then "we shouldn't be kissing now".

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    Beastgirl2

    [91]Apr 21, 2008
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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    Zutara 70% Kataang 30%

    Kataang is because of its obviousness. However, I seriously think Zutara has more chance. Either way, those two becoming friends will be awesome (the fighting together was fantastic!), and if it stops there, I'll survive.

    For all those people saying 'oh, but they've "never" shown zutara teasers before', umm, why would they only show pro-zutara shipping stuff? Why not have some pro-kataang stuff too to make it more suspenceful and whatnot? (like you guys keep saying is the only reason they do this stuff). Personally, I would be much more excited if they had a pro-kataang moment as well as the pro-zutara (or at least pro-zutara friendship for you kataangers) - it would make it so much better, and much more "omg, which ship will happen?". But because it was all pro-zutara, and the finale is coming up....seriously, you guys can't keep saying they are just spinning us along. CoD was ONE moment (omg, will she heal his scar). This trailer has at least 5 pro-zutara moments, and 1 anti-kataang moment. Odds aren't in your favour guys. But still, Kataang could happen, but I think zutara is much more likely at this stage (and no, it wasn't just the trailer that made me think that. I've thought it for awhile, and the trailer just re-inforced my opinion). And i agree with cancerthecrab. Half the time I say things like the above, its just to see the kataangers reactions

    Here's my reaction:

    I see what you mean, and at first glance it definitely seems to add much more probability to Zutara. But the thing about those "5 pro-Zutara moments" is that only one of them could possibly be seen as slightly romantic, in my opinion (the hug, of course). The rest of the so-called pro-Zutara moments were just them being good friends and allies, and Kataang has had plenty of those moments already. But, if you see the Zutara hug as romantic, then you have to consider all the other Kataang hugs as well.

    And the "anti-kataang moment" could've easily been taken out of context, on purpose of course. Is it really that unbelievable that they would try to mislead us (because Kataang was previously so expected) only to have it be Kataang in the end?

    Before the trailer:

    Kataang 90% Zutara 10%

    After the trailer:

    Kataang 75% Zutara 25%

    Edited on 04/21/2008 1:31pm
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    rockon45

    [92]Apr 21, 2008
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    Beastgirl2 wrote:

    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    Zutara 70% Kataang 30%

    Kataang is because of its obviousness. However, I seriously think Zutara has more chance. Either way, those two becoming friends will be awesome (the fighting together was fantastic!), and if it stops there, I'll survive.

    For all those people saying 'oh, but they've "never" shown zutara teasers before', umm, why would they only show pro-zutara shipping stuff? Why not have some pro-kataang stuff too to make it more suspenceful and whatnot? (like you guys keep saying is the only reason they do this stuff). Personally, I would be much more excited if they had a pro-kataang moment as well as the pro-zutara (or at least pro-zutara friendship for you kataangers) - it would make it so much better, and much more "omg, which ship will happen?". But because it was all pro-zutara, and the finale is coming up....seriously, you guys can't keep saying they are just spinning us along. CoD was ONE moment (omg, will she heal his scar). This trailer has at least 5 pro-zutara moments, and 1 anti-kataang moment. Odds aren't in your favour guys. But still, Kataang could happen, but I think zutara is much more likely at this stage (and no, it wasn't just the trailer that made me think that. I've thought it for awhile, and the trailer just re-inforced my opinion). And i agree with cancerthecrab. Half the time I say things like the above, its just to see the kataangers reactions

    Here's my reaction:

    I see what you mean, and at first glance it definitely seems to add much more probability to Zutara. But the thing about those "5 pro-Zutara moments" is that only one of them could possibly be seen as slightly romantic, in my opinion (the hug, of course). The rest of the so-called pro-Zutara moments were just them being good friends and allies, and Kataang has had plenty of those moments already. But, if you see the Zutara hug as romantic, then you have to consider all the other Kataang hugs as well.

    And the "anti-kataang moment" could've easily been taken out of context, on purpose of course. Is it really that unbelievable that they would try to mislead us (because Kataang was previously so expected) only to have it be Kataang in the end?

    Before the trailer:

    Kataang 90% Zutara 10%

    After the trailer:

    Kataang 75% Zutara 25%

    50/50 all the way, this coming from a kataang fan
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    coooooooo

    [93]Apr 21, 2008
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    60% kataang

    40% Zutara
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    picaboomman

    [94]Apr 21, 2008
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    i say we should wait until the boiling rock or the southern raiders to see if zutara's friendship will improve. we shoudlnt base 5 worth of speculating on one hug that we don't know anything about that aws one second
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    picaboomman

    [95]Apr 21, 2008
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    picaboomman wrote:
    i say we should wait until the boiling rock or the southern raiders to see if zutara's friendship will improve. we shoudlnt base 5 worth of speculating on one hug that we don't know anything about that aws one second


    btw, aws is supposed to be was..sorry, force of habit
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    rockon45

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    picaboomman wrote:
    i say we should wait until the boiling rock or the southern raiders to see if zutara's friendship will improve. we shoudlnt base 5 worth of speculating on one hug that we don't know anything about that aws one second
    THank you!!
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    picaboomman

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    rockon45 wrote:
    picaboomman wrote:
    i say we should wait until the boiling rock or the southern raiders to see if zutara's friendship will improve. we shoudlnt base 5 worth of speculating on one hug that we don't know anything about that aws one second
    THank you!!


    your welcome
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    picaboomman

    [98]Apr 21, 2008
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    picaboomman wrote:
    rockon45 wrote:
    picaboomman wrote:
    i say we should wait until the boiling rock or the southern raiders to see if zutara's friendship will improve. we shoudlnt base 5 pages worth of speculating on one hug that we don't know anything about that aws one second
    THank you!!


    your welcome


    i left pages out after 5 fixed now
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    LeonMorado

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    so i take it no one's taken stats, then.
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    MasterBender

    [100]Apr 21, 2008
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    Before NYCC:

    Kataang: 99.9%
    Zutara: .1%

    After NYCC:

    Kataang: 75%
    Zutara: 25%

    And I'm being generous towards Zutara on both counts.
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