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If You could Change Anything about the Finale, What Would It Be?

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    speechless8582

    [21]Aug 4, 2008
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    nothing. i would change nothing. except for maybe that we actually hear that one little line from bumi where the sound was cut off. but thats it for me.
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    cdkee

    [22]Aug 4, 2008
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    Yes, Mako was Iroh's voice and spirit, but they should've finished it and given it justice instead of ending it in a way that seemed incomplete.
    Edited on 08/04/2008 6:15pm
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    Falcondude123

    [23]Aug 4, 2008
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    Okay, so this will seem VERY harsh, but I would have had either Aang, Zuko or Katara dying, but only one or the other, not more than one of them.

    Here's why for each of them:

    Aang: He is the last of his people, and if he had died saving the world, than we could look at the whole series as an acount of his life, rather than just his childhood. It would have made the series more about him than any of the other characters. It would literally bring the show's title soo much more meaning. Also, it would leave everyone gasping with a feeling of such emotional loss and disbelief that they would never be able to forget it, ever. It was that way with Yue, when she "died". So, it would actually make Aang more immortal in our minds if were to have died. Also, it would pretty much doom the Kataang ship and pretty much ensure Zutara's future. or...

    Zuko: Now, I know this would totally destroy Zutara(of which I am a big fan), but when Zuko dived into the lightning to save Katara, I was like, "YES!" Not because I didn't like him, but because I thought that perhaps the writers were trying to leave us with that deep sense of sacrifice that Yue gave us. But, of course, they rarely do so. Then I was like, "well, maybe she will luv him cuz he saved her or somthin." But, it didn't happen. The whole point of his self-sacrifice was... well, there was no real point, except to let Katara do a little fighting. But in my opinion, it would have been cool if Zuko had died because it would be like his penance for all the evil he's done in his life. Like his self-sacrifice would have been his final restitution for all of his wrongs. Perfect, perfect, perfect plot option, but Bryke ignored it.

    or...

    Katara: Okay, so imagine this(it will be hard/painful for some people), imagine if all the shipping wars we've had between Zutara and Kataang for all these years suddenly collapsed into nothingness. Meaningless dust. Every pic, every post, every fanart concerning these two rival ships just vanished in a flash of lightning from Azula. And then, us loyalists who have battled for our ships for so long are left helplessly staring at our TV's with mouths hanging to the floor, dumbstruck with the shock of Katara's sudden death.... Wouldn't that be great? I mean, after we recovered from the mind-numbing blow, wouldn't it just be the most amazingly emotional web of feeling you had ever felt stop your heart, like... ever?? Kataangers wud b like, "the war's over... we didn't win?? But, but, but, we were ALWAYS supposed to win! That's why we supported the ship! Guaranteed victory!! WTHECK?!"
    And we Zutarians wud be like, "the war's over... kataang didn't win??... Hurrray!!!... but we didn't win either, even tho we knew we never would.... but kataang's dead! Hurrrray!"
    Yeah, and after the smoke settled, and the wounds healed, all that would be left would be a few scattered factions of minor ships and rogue anarchist aangzulians. HAHAHA, now that would be drastic, and drastic is soo much cooler than predictable.... but, once again, bryke ignored the option.

    *sigh*
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    code_yumi

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    libraman_92 wrote:
    HopeHime4 wrote:
    libraman_92 wrote:
    cdkee wrote:
    I would've liked a bigger role for Iroh. Maybe a flashback to when he broke out of prison. i feel like he was absent the entire 3rd season and his role wasn't given justice.
    well, without Mako, and only Greg Baldwin to voice Iroh, Bryke didn't want to use Iroh much, kind of in a tribute to Mako.
    You'd think they'd make Iroh have a really kick a$$ role or something, as a tribute to Mako.
    but why continue on iroh's character, as if Mako's death is of no importance???
    Yes, let's honor a great man by making his character's role and therefore the time he spent voicing him useless. Really though, Bryke planned on having Iroh not speak in the beginning of S3 before Mako's death. And I agree that a bigger role for Iroh would've been nice.
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    xXKarisuXx

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    libraman_92 wrote:
    laurenmoo78 wrote:
    I know this has been said, but I would've liked to have seen the Ursa/Zuko reunion. Maybe they'll have deleted scenes in the s3 boxset. That would be nice.


    nah, we'll leave the answering of those to the minisodes.

    those non-existent minisodes?
    I totally agree about the Zuko mom thing, though. I wasn't even a cliffhanger, because we'll never find out.
    Plus someone should have died.
    And, once again, lose the corni-ness of the "epilogue." So many series *coughcoughHarryPotter* fail to do so.
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    isabelwhatx

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    Falcondude123 wrote:
    Okay, so this will seem VERY harsh, but I would have had either Aang, Zuko or Katara dying, but only one or the other, not more than one of them.


    I agree that someone should've died, but not Zuko or Katara. Possibly Aang, just to show how dedicated he is to the world. But I wish that Toph would've died because Bryke created such a perfect scene. I wanted to see a little more sacrifice. There wasn't any sacrifice on either side. But it didn't bother me too much, surprisingly. I thought the finale as so much better than I anticipated. I swear, it was beautiful. Therefore, I'm not complaining. And when I think about it more, there wouldn't be enough significance behind Toph's death to justify it. It would just be a pointless act to put more emotion into an emotion filled show. Plus, there would be no time for a funeral, grieving, etc. I would much rather have the other scenes than scenes of people mourning. So I guess I am now opposing my first comment. I like the way this turned out.
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    isabelwhatx

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    xXKarisuXx wrote:
    libraman_92 wrote:
    laurenmoo78 wrote:
    I know this has been said, but I would've liked to have seen the Ursa/Zuko reunion. Maybe they'll have deleted scenes in the s3 boxset. That would be nice.


    nah, we'll leave the answering of those to the minisodes.

    those non-existent minisodes?
    I totally agree about the Zuko mom thing, though. I wasn't even a cliffhanger, because we'll never find out.
    Plus someone should have died.
    And, once again, lose the corni-ness of the "epilogue." So many series *coughcoughHarryPotter* fail to do so.

    1. They have a possibility of existing.
    2. It was a cliffhanger, even when it might not be resolved.
    3. Why would someone die? What significance would that have to the actual plot line?
    4. It wasn't corny because this was the only way to describe the character's feelings. It was all true. Aang couldn't kill someone, it was against his nature. He follows a religion painstakingly close to Buddhism, which is very against violence. All of the "corni-ness" was completely in character, therefore I had no problem with it. Harry Potter's corni-ness was out of character and completely opposing the whole series, IMO. That wasn't justified. Avatar's was.
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    Falcondude123

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    Oh yeah. I LOLd my brains out during the scene when the White Lotus is retaking BaSingSe, ferociously fighting and wiping out the firebenders, and then it shows Iroh doing HIS part... (i.e. burning a little flag). LOLOLOL!!

    You go, I-roh! Burn that thing! Everyone else is just risking thier lives, fighting for freedom and justice, but dude! You're the one who makes a statement!! XD Go, man! Go, man! Go, man! Burn that little thing! LOLOLOL.
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    LondonParisNYC

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    Definatly i would change that really corny last 5 minuetes in the tea shop. uhhh that bothered me so much.
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    LondonParisNYC

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    I would've let Toph die. I feel like if she did then there would've been more of a sense of sacrifice. I feel like that would've been perfection. And if the lion-turtle was more clear

    toph dieing though, just seems like a character death, for the sake of having a character death.

    it wouldn't hold up any greater purpouse.

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    isabelwhatx

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    LondonParisNYC wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    I would've let Toph die. I feel like if she did then there would've been more of a sense of sacrifice. I feel like that would've been perfection. And if the lion-turtle was more clear

    toph dieing though, just seems like a character death, for the sake of having a character death.

    it wouldn't hold up any greater purpouse.


    Yeah, I changed my mind. If you're not lazy enough, scroll up a bit.
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    MaddoKos

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    Nah. Someone should've died.

    But I thought the finale was basically perfect as it was.

    Maybe...well, this is small. But I would've liked to see Katara use bloodbending on Azula.
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    isabelwhatx

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    MaddoKos wrote:
    Nah. Someone should've died.

    But I thought the finale was basically perfect as it was.

    Maybe...well, this is small. But I would've liked to see Katara use bloodbending on Azula.

    YES! YES! AHahahhaa. Maybe not on Azula, but on someone. The Puppet Master was way to significant to have Katara only use blood bending once in TSR for a grand total of two seconds.
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    Nah. Someone should've died.

    But I thought the finale was basically perfect as it was.

    Maybe...well, this is small. But I would've liked to see Katara use bloodbending on Azula.

    YES! YES! AHahahhaa. Maybe not on Azula, but on someone. The Puppet Master was way to significant to have Katara only use blood bending once in TSR for a grand total of two seconds.


    I know. Underused plot element much?
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    isabelwhatx

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    MaddoKos wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    Nah. Someone should've died.

    But I thought the finale was basically perfect as it was.

    Maybe...well, this is small. But I would've liked to see Katara use bloodbending on Azula.

    YES! YES! AHahahhaa. Maybe not on Azula, but on someone. The Puppet Master was way to significant to have Katara only use blood bending once in TSR for a grand total of two seconds.


    I know. Underused plot element much?

    Ahahaha. Usually almost everything is significant in ATLA, but one of the COOLEST things they had wasn't really put to use. I almost feel like that small excerpt in TSR was just an excuse to use it so that The Puppet Master wasn't a total waste.
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    Falcondude123 wrote:
    Oh yeah. I LOLd my brains out during the scene when the White Lotus is retaking BaSingSe, ferociously fighting and wiping out the firebenders, and then it shows Iroh doing HIS part... (i.e. burning a little flag). LOLOLOL!!

    You go, I-roh! Burn that thing! Everyone else is just risking thier lives, fighting for freedom and justice, but dude! You're the one who makes a statement!! XD Go, man! Go, man! Go, man! Burn that little thing! LOLOLOL.

    I thought I was the ONLY ONE who thought that!!
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    Nah. Someone should've died.

    But I thought the finale was basically perfect as it was.

    Maybe...well, this is small. But I would've liked to see Katara use bloodbending on Azula.

    YES! YES! AHahahhaa. Maybe not on Azula, but on someone. The Puppet Master was way to significant to have Katara only use blood bending once in TSR for a grand total of two seconds.


    I know. Underused plot element much?

    Ahahaha. Usually almost everything is significant in ATLA, but one of the COOLEST things they had wasn't really put to use. I almost feel like that small excerpt in TSR was just an excuse to use it so that The Puppet Master wasn't a total waste.


    That's what's known as a "red herring." Of course, since bloodbending only worked during the full moon it is kind of an unreliable technique.
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    Nah. Someone should've died. But I thought the finale was basically perfect as it was. Maybe...well, this is small. But I would've liked to see Katara use bloodbending on Azula.
    YES! YES! AHahahhaa. Maybe not on Azula, but on someone. The Puppet Master was way to significant to have Katara only use blood bending once in TSR for a grand total of two seconds.
    I know. Underused plot element much?
    Ahahaha. Usually almost everything is significant in ATLA, but one of the COOLEST things they had wasn't really put to use. I almost feel like that small excerpt in TSR was just an excuse to use it so that The Puppet Master wasn't a total waste.

    The thing is as far as we know, she needs the full moon to use blood bending so was not free to start using it any time she wanted.

    EDIT: MaddoKos beat me to the punch

    Edited on 08/04/2008 7:03pm
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    ISpeakTheTruth

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    I would have given the finale an extra episode to expand on some of the fights but mainly to focus on the things that were sort of left out or spead up. Like Ursa.
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    LondonParisNYC

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    I would've let Toph die. I feel like if she did then there would've been more of a sense of sacrifice. I feel like that would've been perfection. And if the lion-turtle was more clear

    toph dieing though, just seems like a character death, for the sake of having a character death.

    it wouldn't hold up any greater purpouse.

    Yeah, I changed my mind. If you're not lazy enough, scroll up a bit.

    which i totally am lol. Sorry, I didn't notice.

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