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How Could Azula be reformed/ Azula's fate???

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    electricblue18

    [81]Oct 31, 2006
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    dumbTVnut wrote:
    KilalaRose wrote:
    BrainMan820 wrote:
    Toph vs. Blind Bandit (She wins easily)
    Um, Toph is the Blind Bandit


    Behold sarcasm!

    lol
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    masterofaeons

    [82]Oct 31, 2006
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    I think the whole show is a big apologetic love letter to womenkind, as if it's reparations for a long mysoginistic past. I hate shows where it's all "Goku! You and Vegeta are the only ones who can save the world because you have been blessed with a pair of steel Dragon BallZ!" But more than that I hate shows that the exact same in reverse: "Sailor Moon, Darren is in trouble again! He needs your help, as does the world!" This show never shuts up about how amazing Sifu Katara is and I swear one day the show is gonna be about her, Suki and (the new reformed) Azula globetrotting, playing dress up, collecting Spheres and trying to find her boyfriend (who disappeared in the last game).

    Wow, I didn't think I'd make a FFX-2 reference when I started this post. Oh well, my point stands. Why do all the boys suck with the exception of Iroh?
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    dumbTVnut

    [83]Oct 31, 2006
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    I thought the whole show was a "up yours!" letter to the PRC (People's Republic of China)?

    Have you seen Kim possible or totally spies? Horrible.

    I have not lost all faith in the fem fetal though: I still love Battle Angel Alita, but Tanaka Punie from Dai Mahou Touge still comes at me in my nighmares. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-l7pUYrRh0&mode=related&search=
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    etherfreeze

    [84]Oct 31, 2006
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    Katara and Zuko are about equal in skill level, if the show was flaunting the skill of anyone it's azula and her girlsquad. Maybe there are alot of powerful women, but there are also alot of powerful men - Iroh, Aang (don't forget the protagonist!), Ozai... all the rulers. It's not like there are 4 women ruling the four nations.
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    masterofaeons

    [85]Oct 31, 2006
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    Ozai is actually Ursa in disguise.
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    etherfreeze

    [86]Oct 31, 2006
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    ::scratches head::
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    dumbTVnut

    [87]Oct 31, 2006
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    masterofaeons wrote:
    Ozai is actually Ursa in disguise.


    I figured him for a cross-dresser, but DAM!
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    Eman5805

    [88]Oct 31, 2006
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    I can accept Azula or Ty Lee taking down full grown men cuz they do it in a non overpowering way...it's possible for an agile acrobat like person who knows pressure points to do those things or Azula cuz ..well...damn she's just Azula..but with shows like Kim Possible or Totally Spies,??a 90lb??5'2"??cheerleader can drop kick a grown man and make him fly 20 feet is just...wtf man? I know it's a cartoon but??DAMN...isn't there a statue of limitations on??this kinda stuff? ??That's why I??enjoy watching the Hinata vs. Neji fight and that's about as real as it gets in a show where ppl can walk on walls and make clones of themselves outta thin air...

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    tokyoberry

    [89]Oct 31, 2006
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    who in the heck is ursa?
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    Eman5805

    [90]Oct 31, 2006
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    tokyoberry wrote:
    who in the heck is ursa?

    Zuko's mother...here's her picture:

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    etherfreeze

    [91]Oct 31, 2006
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    a spitting image of ozai no less...
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    dumbTVnut

    [92]Oct 31, 2006
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    etherfreeze wrote:
    a spitting image of ozai no less...


    Ozai in drag.
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    BrainMan820

    [93]Oct 31, 2006
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    Although I could see Azula and Mai (to a lesser extent) taking out a lot of people, I couldn't say the same for Ty Lee. Striking people with just your hands, especially solid muscle like the Terra Team would be, hurt a lot. It's just not as realistic. Plus, Ty Lee moves far too fast. Somersaults and cartwheels are not that fast, and Katara could have easily smacked her with waterbending.

    In regards to the four leaders (first off, there are three. There is no Air Nomad leader). And secondly, there are no indications of power in any of the leaders. Chief Arnook simply succeeded the position; there's no indication he earned it. We also have no indication of Ozai's power. Like Arnook, he succeded the position, and the only time he was shown in any sort of combat situation was when he injured Zuko in an Agni Kai (and Zuko refused to fight). So Ozai is powerful enough to scar someone with firebending. Aang was able to do that in, what, a few hours of training? And we've never seen the Earth King do anything. He'd have to be pretty ineffectual if Long Feng can go over him like that. And Long Feng's earthbending skill can't be all that great if Appa can plow through it.

    I just find it shameful that one would ignore the sexism in the show and only talk of it when it happens to women. Honestly, I think some of the women here are great. Suki is strong, but not too powerful. She's a lot more realistic. Ursa combines many good qualities. She's not superwoman, she's just a good mother to the son who's scorned by everyone else.

    We have two powerful men: Aang and Iroh. The other powerful men are placed in marginal positions (I think of Master Pakku and Jeong Jeong). Whereas our powerful women are front and center with Katara and Toph, and then Azula and her girlsquad. Only Suki and June are marginalized, and they are weaker then the other girls.

    I'd rather see some balance in this show. Do the girls need to be superpowered freaks all the time?
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    DygitalNinja

    [94]Nov 1, 2006
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    my point is that Toph isn't much of a sex-symbol either...and Sokka is never gonna date her...you might also be able to fit Avatar Kiyoshi and Auzla into the "Non-pop-feminism" box, they all seem to be strong and they keep their clothing on.

    ...notice that Sokka is turning out to be a little plmp so far in entorgage includes Princess Yue, that Kiyoshi chick and potentially Tai Li
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    dumbTVnut

    [95]Nov 1, 2006
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    Toph is a child (does not count, part of pop feminism is turning men on) and Azula is not bad looking though she does seem to dress with function rather then cuteness in mind. Like I said avatar is not that bad. and Sokka, well sokka might as well be Ron Stopable.
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    masterofaeons

    [96]Nov 1, 2006
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    Not that I'm a KP fan, but I'd love to see Sokka and Ron hang out. If they were older, I'd love to see them have a drinking contest.

    "Oh man, I'm hurl!"
    "You ain't got nothin! Water TRIIIIIBE! Water TRIIIIIBE!"
    "Bite him, (naked mole rat's name)!"
    *Sokka runs* "Momo! Save me!"
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    dumbTVnut

    [97]Nov 1, 2006
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    no it would be more like:

    Future Ron: yeah and my wife she use to be this spy, but after a good couple of smacks up-side her head she does what ever I tell her now!
    Future sokka: *takes another shot of vodka* that it, teach her who the man!
    Future Ron:Yeah I get what ever I want from her, I tell her to stay home and take care of the kids, she does it, I tell her to clean up after me and make my dinner, no problem, I get what I want in 2 min flat and then roll over for a good nights sleep leaving her totally unsatisfied and lonely. Future sokka: Psssfff, she probably planning on killing you while you sleep and then cut off willy if you know what I mean.
    Future Ron: yeah, probably.
    Future Sokka: That is why you got to get ahead of the game like I do and kill them first.
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    Maylene

    [98]Nov 1, 2006
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    dumbTVnut wrote:
    no it would be more like:

    Future Ron: yeah and my wife she use to be this spy, but after a good couple of smacks up-side her head she does what ever I tell her now!
    Future sokka: *takes another shot of vodka* that it, teach her who the man!
    Future Ron:Yeah I get what ever I want from her, I tell her to stay home and take care of the kids, she does it, I tell her to clean up after me and make my dinner, no problem, I get what I want in 2 min flat and then roll over for a good nights sleep leaving her totally unsatisfied and lonely. Future sokka: Psssfff, she probably planning on killing you while you sleep and then cut off willy if you know what I mean.
    Future Ron: yeah, probably.
    Future Sokka: That is why you got to get ahead of the game like I do and kill them first.


    eheh...^__^
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