Aang could've killed Ozai without the Avatar State.
Remember when Aang redirected the lightning? He could've killed Ozai, but he decided not to.
Seems like Iroh could've been the hero of the day xD
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Naw, Zuko redirected lightning at Ozai and it didn't kill him.
On the flip side he could've taken advantage at his weakened state, like 10 minutes earlier.
| skye3001 wrote: |
Naw, Zuko redirected lightning at Ozai and it didn't kill him.
On the flip side he could've taken advantage at his weakened state, like 10 minutes earlier. |
| skye3001 wrote: |
Naw, Zuko redirected lightning at Ozai and it didn't kill him.
On the flip side he could've taken advantage at his weakened state, like 10 minutes earlier. |
| Darth_Scarth wrote: |
| It makes sense in a perspective. But in a realistic perspective, if Zuko had killed Ozai right then and there he would have ended the suffering of many. Also he wouldn't have to risk Aang's life to fight the Fire Lord where he could have been killed. But then it would not have fit the story line. |
| Darth_Scarth wrote: |
| It makes sense in a perspective. But in a realistic perspective, if Zuko had killed Ozai right then and there he would have ended the suffering of many. Also he wouldn't have to risk Aang's life to fight the Fire Lord where he could have been killed. But then it would not have fit the story line. |
Oh come on people, not this again. Ozai basically said to Zuko, "I'm helpless. Please attack me," with a great big grin on his face. When? When in the history of storytelling has a villain not had a trick up their sleeve when they smile? He wasn't going to just sit there and let Zuko stab him. He'd just run around, wasting time for the eclipse to end or stall for time until the guards returned.
As for the lightning thing, Iroh basically said in S2 that once you release it, you don't control it. Point and click. Simply put, Ozai got lucky that bolt hit the floor before him. (Though he still probably received a few 1000 volts from being so close.)
| MarryLarry wrote: | ||
Oh come on people, not this again. Ozai basically said to Zuko, "I'm helpless. Please attack me," with a great big grin on his face. When? When in the history of storytelling has a villain not had a trick up their sleeve when they smile? He wasn't going to just sit there and let Zuko stab him. He'd just run around, wasting time for the eclipse to end or stall for time until the guards returned. As for the lightning thing, Iroh basically said in S2 that once you release it, you don't control it. Point and click. Simply put, Ozai got lucky that bolt hit the floor before him. (Though he still probably received a few 1000 volts from being so close.) |
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Ozai was tempting Zuko and he knew it. That's why he said what he said.
And that's pretty much what I just said. Point and click. Zuko guided it right at Ozai, and since Zuko can't command it once it's released, it hit the ground. Plain and simple.
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Ozai was tempting Zuko and he knew it. That's why he said what he said. And that's pretty much what I just said. Point and click. Zuko guided it right at Ozai, and since Zuko can't command it once it's released, it hit the ground. Plain and simple. |
Like I said, Zuko knew his father was baiting him (see the evil villain smile I mentioned?). Zuko knew he couldn't kill his dad, but he wouldn't admit it. Then daddy sends some juice his way, which gives Zuko all the power he needs to kill Ozai. He misses, flees, and joins a gang, the very thing his father was trying to protect him from.
| Darth_Scarth wrote: |
| It makes sense in a perspective. But in a realistic perspective, if Zuko had killed Ozai right then and there he would have ended the suffering of many. Also he wouldn't have to risk Aang's life to fight the Fire Lord where he could have been killed. But then it would not have fit the story line. |
| MarryLarry wrote: |
Like I said, Zuko knew his father was baiting him (see the evil villain smile I mentioned?). Zuko knew he couldn't kill his dad, but he wouldn't admit it. Then daddy sends some juice his way, which gives Zuko all the power he needs to kill Ozai. He misses, flees, and joins a gang, the very thing his father was trying to protect him from. |
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The only time Zuko fell for Azula's lies was in The Avatar State. After that, every word she uttered he mistrusted.
And like I said, EVERY villain who smiles has a trick up their sleeve. If you haven't noticed that yet, then you need to watch more TV. This goes back to my question: do you really think Ozai was going to sit there and let his son stab him? Azula inherited her running skills from someone in the family.
| MarryLarry wrote: | ||||
The only time Zuko fell for Azula's lies was in The Avatar State. After that, every word she uttered he mistrusted. And like I said, EVERY villain who smiles has a trick up their sleeve. If you haven't noticed that yet, then you need to watch more TV. This goes back to my question: do you really think Ozai was going to sit there and let his son stab him? Azula inherited her running skills from someone in the family. |
You're only skimming what I'm writing, aren't you -.-
That's the very lie I was talking about. Takes place in The Avatar State. And Ozai doesn't need to do flips like his daughter. He'd only need to run around in circles for a few minutes until the eclipse ended or the guards came back.
| MarryLarry wrote: |
You're only skimming what I'm writing, aren't you -.- That's the very lie I was talking about. Takes place in The Avatar State. And Ozai doesn't need to do flips like his daughter. He'd only need to run around in circles for a few minutes until the eclipse ended or the guards came back. |
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So because Zuko's younger, he runs faster than his dad, who's insanely ripped and in shape? You know what? I think you're mad because I proved you wrong and won't admit it...or I could be dreaming.
