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    LondonParisNYC

    [61]Jul 24, 2008
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    ohh and i swear to god spacerac's got some sort of grudge against me lol. I don't think we've ever agreed on anything.
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    AlexanderTrebek

    [62]Jul 24, 2008
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    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    AlexanderTrebek wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    AlexanderTrebek wrote:
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    AlexanderTrebek wrote:
    Um...I did. Maybe I'm missing something, but I simply disagreed and pointed out why I thought the finale made sense, and moreover, why I thought Katara's decision to be with Aang after the war ended wasn't out of character, which was the original point to this thread if I'm not mistaken.

    yeah but this is all relevant. it all has to do if it fits in with the charcter's normal traits and behaviors and if the behaviors and actions of the characters in the finale were out of character.

    To be honest, I thought that Katara was more out of character in The Southern Raiders than in the finale. I would rather see "confused" Katara than bloodthirsty Katara any day.

    i have to disagree because the devolution and breakdown of her character was nescarry. It did indeed follow her character pattern and if she didn't have that dark moment of weakness, her character would have been too unrealistic and unhuman.

    Notice I said more out of character. I really like how they gave everyone character flaws. But I do think they took it a little far. While it was cool to see bloodbending again, I honestly didn't think that Katara would use it again after The Puppetmaster. After telling Aang how she couldn't stand to see him in the Avatar State in Book 2, she pretty much went AS for an entire episode. Not that I think it was completely out of character, it was just hard to watch. But that's what made that episode so good.

    mucho true. Uhm just for the sake of discusion i want to raise another point. What did you think guys think of sokka? To me he was a very 1 dimensional charcter, and he was a main character! i would have liked to see more depth from him, but he always seemed shallow and I was not able to relate with him

    That question is kinda funny, because when I wrote that they gave everyone character flaws, it popped into my head that Sokka might be the exception. But I think the reason for this is that Sokka was actually intended to not have as big a role in the show, but the voice actor did such a good job with the comedy that they gave him more screen time. And while I couldn't really relate to him either, you can't help but love the meat and sarcasm guy.
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    LondonParisNYC

    [63]Jul 24, 2008
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    AlexanderTrebek wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:

    mucho true. Uhm just for the sake of discusion i want to raise another point. What did you think guys think of sokka? To me he was a very 1 dimensional charcter, and he was a main character! i would have liked to see more depth from him, but he always seemed shallow and I was not able to relate with him

    That question is kinda funny, because when I wrote that they gave everyone character flaws, it popped into my head that Sokka might be the exception. But I think the reason for this is that Sokka was actually intended to not have as big a role in the show, but the voice actor did such a good job with the comedy that they gave him more screen time. And while I couldn't really relate to him either, you can't help but love the meat and sarcasm guy.

    Don't get me wrong he's a great character and very comedic, but it's rare for such a main character to be that shallow. And he definatly is a main character. Just as important as Katara or Zuko or Aang, yet they all have alot more depth. It would have been interesting to see a little more depth from him, but at the same time that might have comprised his character.

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    Bandage2

    [64]Jul 24, 2008
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    It's been stated before that the creators never intended sokka to become a big character, and they did way more with sokka than they originally planned anyhow. I think they did ok with him, I mean he's not a bender so there's only so much he can do to impact things
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    LondonParisNYC

    [65]Jul 24, 2008
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    Bandage2 wrote:
    It's been stated before that the creators never intended sokka to become a big character, and they did way more with sokka than they originally planned anyhow. I think they did ok with him, I mean he's not a bender so there's only so much he can do to impact things

    it's not so much "how he impact things" it's him as a person. even though the writer's never intended for it, it definatly happend, and i'm not even saying its such a bad thing that's he is just a comedic relief, it just interesting how there really is no depth, or insight of his character. unless you wanna take this a step further and say that he uses comedy as a shield to hide/surpress something. hmmm.

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    MarryLarry

    [66]Jul 24, 2008
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    LondonParisNYC wrote:

    Bandage2 wrote:
    It's been stated before that the creators never intended sokka to become a big character, and they did way more with sokka than they originally planned anyhow. I think they did ok with him, I mean he's not a bender so there's only so much he can do to impact things

    it's not so much "how he impact things" it's him as a person. even though the writer's never intended for it, it definatly happend, and i'm not even saying its such a bad thing that's he is just a comedic relief, it just interesting how there really is no depth, or insight of his character. unless you wanna take this a step further and say that he uses comedy as a shield to hide/surpress something. hmmm.

    What exactly gives a character depth?

    The guy's felt as much pain as anyone. He's resourceful and knows how to plan things, which is often the key to the gang's success. He went from novice warrior to skilled fighter. From unconfident soldier who was constantly trying to prove to himself and his father he was a man, actually believing his dad thought he wasn't good enough to go to war, to leader of an invasion force.

    When his dad was captured, he risked his own freedom to rescue him. Sacrificed his 2 most valuable possessions to save a friend. I think Suki would agree with me when I say he's deep. (innuendo ftw)

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    Spacerac

    [67]Jul 24, 2008
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    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    ohh and i swear to god spacerac's got some sort of grudge against me lol. I don't think we've ever agreed on anything.
    It's not just you, I get that with a lot of Zutarians A funny love/hate relationship that Zutarians and Kataangers have, lol.
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    LondonParisNYC

    [68]Jul 24, 2008
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    MarryLarry wrote:

    What exactly gives a character depth?

    The guy's felt as much pain as anyone. He's resourceful and knows how to plan things, which is often the key to the gang's success. He went from novice warrior to skilled fighter. From unconfident soldier who was constantly trying to prove to himself and his father he was a man, actually believing his dad thought he wasn't good enough to go to war, to leader of an invasion force.

    When his dad was captured, he risked his own freedom to rescue him. Sacrificed his 2 most valuable possessions to save a friend. I think Suki would agree with me when I say he's deep. (innuendo ftw)

    Yes he may have done alot of noble things but that doesn't make a complex character. We have seen no flaws, he doesn't fluxuate his mood, we've never seen his insight, seen him react in a time of hardship. He is a good character, but he is one dimesional.

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    LondonParisNYC

    [69]Jul 24, 2008
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    Spacerac wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    ohh and i swear to god spacerac's got some sort of grudge against me lol. I don't think we've ever agreed on anything.
    It's not just you, I get that with a lot of Zutarians A funny love/hate relationship that Zutarians and Kataangers have, lol.

    lol alright. well atleast it's just not me. lol seriously every thread i've seen you on, we always manage to disagree about something. I have a feeling we are two mucho different people.

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    Bandage2

    [70]Jul 24, 2008
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    Well, if you look back towards the fortuneteller when she said something along the lines of you will cause yourself anguish, sokka is definitely wiser, less stubborn and more mature... but it is true they kinda slacked on his development. Even so tho, he developed more than any character on any other tv series out there lol.

    and TY for reading my review

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    MarryLarry

    [71]Jul 24, 2008
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    LondonParisNYC wrote:

    MarryLarry wrote:

    What exactly gives a character depth?

    The guy's felt as much pain as anyone. He's resourceful and knows how to plan things, which is often the key to the gang's success. He went from novice warrior to skilled fighter. From unconfident soldier who was constantly trying to prove to himself and his father he was a man, actually believing his dad thought he wasn't good enough to go to war, to leader of an invasion force.

    When his dad was captured, he risked his own freedom to rescue him. Sacrificed his 2 most valuable possessions to save a friend. I think Suki would agree with me when I say he's deep. (innuendo ftw)

    Yes he may have done alot of noble things but that doesn't make a complex character. We have seen no flaws, he doesn't fluxuate his mood, we've never seen his insight, seen him react in a time of hardship. He is a good character, but he is one dimesional.

    His flaw is he's a goof-ball who has trouble fighting. Though usually comedic, we see his angry face, sad face, and serious face. Look at DoBS when Azula mentions Suki, whenever Yue is mentioned, or Sokka's Master where he feels inadequate and inferior to the others. As for hardships, he's had the same amount as everyone in the gang whenever they suffer a defeat since they're all on the same journey. Not to mention Yue's death scene.

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    LondonParisNYC

    [72]Jul 24, 2008
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    Bandage2 wrote:

    Well, if you look back towards the fortuneteller when she said something along the lines of you will cause yourself anguish, sokka is definitely wiser, less stubborn and more mature... but it is true they kinda slacked on his development. Even so tho, he developed more than any character on any other tv series out there lol.

    and TY for reading my review

    yep yep, no prob xD

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    LondonParisNYC

    [73]Jul 24, 2008
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    MarryLarry wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:

    MarryLarry wrote:

    What exactly gives a character depth?

    The guy's felt as much pain as anyone. He's resourceful and knows how to plan things, which is often the key to the gang's success. He went from novice warrior to skilled fighter. From unconfident soldier who was constantly trying to prove to himself and his father he was a man, actually believing his dad thought he wasn't good enough to go to war, to leader of an invasion force.

    When his dad was captured, he risked his own freedom to rescue him. Sacrificed his 2 most valuable possessions to save a friend. I think Suki would agree with me when I say he's deep. (innuendo ftw)

    Yes he may have done alot of noble things but that doesn't make a complex character. We have seen no flaws, he doesn't fluxuate his mood, we've never seen his insight, seen him react in a time of hardship. He is a good character, but he is one dimesional.

    His flaw is he's a goof-ball who has trouble fighting. Though usually comedic, we see his angry face, sad face, and serious face. Look at DoBS when Azula mentions Suki, whenever Yue is mentioned, or Sokka's Master where he feels inadequate and inferior to the others. As for hardships, he's had the same amount as everyone in the gang whenever they suffer a defeat since they're all on the same journey. Not to mention Yue's death scene.

    still while all those things do make him a good character, it doesn't make it any easier for the viewer to relate to him.

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    MarryLarry

    [74]Jul 24, 2008
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    I suppose different people relate to different characters differently. I happen to know plenty of people who can relate to Sokka. To each his own I guess.
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    skye3001

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    What are you talking about? I don't know about you, but *MY* first girlfriend turned into the moon.
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    MarryLarry

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    People might not relate to their GFs turning into moons, but they can stilll relate to loosing one in some way.
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    LondonParisNYC

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    skye3001 wrote:
    What are you talking about? I don't know about you, but *MY* first girlfriend turned into the moon.

    haha see what i mean? and yeah i know it's "losing someone" but that is still so broad.

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    LondonParisNYC

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    See we finally got away from another senseless shipping arguement. way to go guys xD
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    Spacerac

    [79]Jul 24, 2008
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    Nobody insult Sokka now, that's my main bro!
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    LondonParisNYC

    [80]Jul 24, 2008
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    Spacerac wrote:
    Nobody insult Sokka now, that's my main bro!

    hahaha. He's an awesome character and all, he's just a little, shallow. i heart sokka though. i don't think it'd be good if he was a deep character

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