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ok first don't misunderstand this topic i am not saying zuko was THE avatar BUT my question is this and it comes from the episode the avatar and the firelord when zuko reads the "secret" history about his OTHER great grandfather...
the way iroh explains it zuko seems to be ANOTHER avatar just can't learn all four elements is this a correct interpretation of what i have seen again and again?
1)jackson5050 thanks you are a wonderful person i will remember when i am thanking ppl in the future you will be at the top of the list. moving along
2)sektos i get the whole thing about bringing peace to both side but it was said he could bring BALANCE and cleasne the sins of their nation in a sense it sounds like a version of the avatar again i am sure this can be called erroneous but still it still just seems to be a version of the avatar to me.
| silverfoxy8472 wrote: |
1)jackson5050 thanks you are a wonderful person i will remember when i am thanking ppl in the future you will be at the top of the list. moving along
2)sektos i get the whole thing about bringing peace to both side but it was said he could bring BALANCE and cleasne the sins of their nation in a sense it sounds like a version of the avatar again i am sure this can be called erroneous but still it still just seems to be a version of the avatar to me. |
| silverfoxy8472 wrote: |
1)jackson5050 thanks you are a wonderful person i will remember when i am thanking ppl in the future you will be at the top of the list. moving along
2)sektos i get the whole thing about bringing peace to both side but it was said he could bring BALANCE and cleasne the sins of their nation in a sense it sounds like a version of the avatar again i am sure this can be called erroneous but still it still just seems to be a version of the avatar to me. |
| Sektos wrote: | ||
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Just so there's no confusion for foxy, by Earth Sektos is referring to the planet, not the element.
well to begin hmmm
1) wow zbishop26 no counter for that arguement but then again no real arguement i mean nothing to back it up consider yourself lucky i responded at all sheesh. moving along
2) to sektos and marrylarry i get it let please not go captain planet here
ok just to respond to some others from before i do NOT think of zuko as THE AVATAR just in the joining of the two bloodlines in him and the ability to make peace so dramatically i am saying he is a VERSION of the avatar.
I'd argue that Zuko is more a "decendant" of the Avatar, instead of "a version of the Avatar".
You know, since he's a fire bender, and the next avatar was supposed to be an Air bender, and also he can't bend the other elements, or do any Avatar stuff with the Spirit World... And how he was never refered to as any sort of "Avatar" throughout the entire course of the show.
Anyway, Zuko didn't create peace dramaticaly. We don't know if there were any uprisings later, or if maybe there was more conflict with the Dai Lee, or anything like that.
Besides, if an earth bender married a water bender, and then they had a water bender, the water bender would not be considered a "version of an earth bender" if all the water bender could bend was stuff a standard waterbender could bend. (Mudbending doesn't count, because Toph and Katara have been able to bend it.)
ahhhh yess debate i love it where to begin.
1) _flutterlight i am not COMPLETELY argueing that point in fact agree with that it is JUST TO ME THE WAY IT WAS PHRASED made him seem like a VERSION of the avatar which came about because of his bloodlines able to restore balance as his uncle said to cleanse the sins of his nation as for your last comment sheesh that is NOT the logic i am using though a hybrid from a water bender and an earth bender would've been interesting how would that work? what elements would the person be able to bend? but the point is you are applying one logic that was used and drawn from logical sources ( as logical as you can get for a cartoon) and twisting it into a situattion that makes no sense.
2) edmasterofchaos what cartoon were you watching? zuko is ANYTHING but simple his family history and behaviors wenth through many twists and turns he ONLY became a MUCH simpler person after the western air temple when he calmed down his past his present up to the western air temple he was far more complex than you seem to make him FOCUSED yes but still complex.
| silverfoxy8472 wrote: |
ahhhh yess debate i love it where to begin.
1) _flutterlight i am not COMPLETELY argueing that point in fact agree with that it is JUST TO ME THE WAY IT WAS PHRASED made him seem like a VERSION of the avatar which came about because of his bloodlines able to restore balance as his uncle said to cleanse the sins of his nation as for your last comment sheesh that is NOT the logic i am using though a hybrid from a water bender and an earth bender would've been interesting how would that work? what elements would the person be able to bend? but the point is you are applying one logic that was used and drawn from logical sources ( as logical as you can get for a cartoon) and twisting it into a situattion that makes no sense.
2) edmasterofchaos what cartoon were you watching? zuko is ANYTHING but simple his family history and behaviors wenth through many twists and turns he ONLY became a MUCH simpler person after the western air temple when he calmed down his past his present up to the western air temple he was far more complex than you seem to make him FOCUSED yes but still complex. |
| silverfoxy8472 wrote: |
ahhhh yess debate i love it where to begin.
1) _flutterlight i am not COMPLETELY argueing that point in fact agree with that it is JUST TO ME THE WAY IT WAS PHRASED made him seem like a VERSION of the avatar which came about because of his bloodlines able to restore balance as his uncle said to cleanse the sins of his nation as for your last comment sheesh that is NOT the logic i am using though a hybrid from a water bender and an earth bender would've been interesting how would that work? what elements would the person be able to bend? but the point is you are applying one logic that was used and drawn from logical sources ( as logical as you can get for a cartoon) and twisting it into a situattion that makes no sense.
2) edmasterofchaos what cartoon were you watching? zuko is ANYTHING but simple his family history and behaviors wenth through many twists and turns he ONLY became a MUCH simpler person after the western air temple when he calmed down his past his present up to the western air temple he was far more complex than you seem to make him FOCUSED yes but still complex. |
ahh yes here we go again
1) zbishop26 we can go around in a circle for all eternity i UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY there is only ONE avatar at any one time. as for your arguement about sokka besides being well one of the less smart characters he helped Aang out ONLY zuko is unique in that a as i have said before he could restore balance to the world LIKE uncle said and cleanse the sins of his nation but he can't learn all four elements but overall yes he is TO ME a version of what aang is. getting back to sokka oh sheesh well no offense i think you would've been better choosing katara for your arguement but no sokka is NOT a version of the avatar because he helped aang but this line of thinking is well dumb lets not speak along these lines again ok?
| MarryLarry wrote: |
| I smell a troll, who isn't as shiny or attractive as it's name implies. |
| MarryLarry wrote: |
| I smell a troll, who isn't as shiny or attractive as it's name implies. |
| silverfoxy8472 wrote: |
| ahh yes here we go again1) zbishop26 we can go around in a circle for all eternity i UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY there is only ONE avatar at any one time. as for your arguement about sokka besides being well one of the less smart characters he helped Aang out ONLY zuko is unique in that a as i have said before he could restore balance to the world LIKE uncle said and cleanse the sins of his nation but he can't learn all four elements but overall yes he is TO ME a version of what aang is. getting back to sokka oh sheesh well no offense i think you would've been better choosing katara for your arguement but no sokka is NOT a version of the avatar because he helped aang but this line of thinking is well dumb lets not speak along these lines again ok? |
