1) gilvatar thank you for what you said.

2) NOW considering this is my thread let me lay down my rules we are all polite here. we are here for INTELLIGENT debate and MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL we are NOT TO BE INSULTING TO EACH OTHER if you seek to be insulting then stay out of this thread.

1) gilvatar no i am not new

2) for thr 100th time i am NOT saying he is THE avatar JUST A VERSION of it THERE IS ONLY ONE AVATAR but the way they played zuko they came close to breaking the one avatar a generation rule in my opinion.

I believe the TC is confusing the word 'version' as a synonym for 'similar.'

Aang and Zuko are very similar; the writers made that rather obvious. They're also different in many ways. They are not, however, two versions of each other.

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rule #1 here keep it constructiive

rule #2 if you can not keep rule one you don't belong in this thread sorry if i come off as unfriendly but i have had enoiugh with ppl like teamrat it is a debate a disucssion a whatever but not a place to razz the maker of the thread.

1) teamrat dude/dudette whatever you are if you have NOTHING constructive to say GET OUT OF MY THREAD PERIOD.

2) flutterflight 1) no there wouldn't be zuko has a ONE IN A MILLION BLOODLINE things like him come along MAYBE once a generation if that, 2) you argue in favor of all set up and then make a waaaay out there statement like that? obvious there is a reason only the avatar could learn all four elements WITHOUT the avatar state but then again there is ALWAYS a reason behind the chosen wether one or many(a small group) 3) i agree with the fact that ONLY aang could PROPERLY end the war BUT that is witin the contaxt that is the proper way to lets not be stupid it is the framework that's all but that is besides the point 4) i have never called zuko AN AVATAR but a verison of the avatar a) his bloodline as i said is ONCE A GEN IF THAT b) aang may have been the only one to truly and properly end it but look at what zuko got from his banishment BUT even without aang the line of succession would have eventually led to an Agni Kai between zuko and Azula and zuko would've returned from his banshiment after his father's death with the amount of wisdom of his journey it just would have led to war being a LITTLE longer and millions more dying but within the structure of the series it couldn't have happened that way. 5) so YES Zuko is a VERSION of the avatar able to bring about peace to the world by assuming the throne nbut could ONLY do it with aang's help.

3)MarryLarry hmmm you maybe right i have probably been phrasing it wrong i appreciate that constructive criticism thank you.

4) edmasterofchaos i think marrylarry is right i have been phrasing it wrong a simple addition or deletion of a word can change the entire meaning of a sentence But of course being an intelligent person you know that don't you because i know within this thread no one is stupid so i assume everyone is intelligent enough to see new point of views.

5) gilvatar yes i agree i have been sloppy with my phrasing in this and i admit to my mistake so by using the word SIMILAR it might be a bit easier and make this thread well friendlier.

*sighs* well two responses.

1)edmasterofchaos gilvatar is right i have chosen my words poorly zuko and the avatar are similar and you are right that point because iroh said even if he killed ozai it would seem like to history just a brother killing a brother to take power more senseless violence and death but zuko was a NECESSARY part of the peaceful end of the war as iroh said as well someone who is an idealist someone of impeccable honor needs to take the throne essentailly someone who is considered a traitor by ozai and azula who is ever daddy's little girl not to mention ends up psychotic and i don't just mean her behavior through out the series thought that helps the case severely but she passed as as intense not psycho in societies she visited even if hated. so zuko was NECESSARY BUT thought it might've SEEMED like vengence coming from zuko it wouldn't be but again zuko by that time realized his destny was to help the avatar but WITHOUT him the avatar's matery OF ALL FOUR ELEMENTS would've been IMPOSSIBLE at the western air temple toph said fact is "we can't think of a single person in the world to do the job and one shows up on our door step and you won't even consider it!!!?" because they were not going to encounter jeong jeong again anytime soon if ever so they needed to find another firebender to help with matering firebending the poing being is he was ABSOLUTELY necessary to master the four elements.

2) Flutterlight two points 1) how many generations do you wish to go back HOW MANY STORIES do you wish they did?this would've made the series unfocused and probably made its down fall rather than getting to it natural end. 2) EVERYONE was doing their part to win the war i am willing to bet that even though UNREVEALED were doing their part in FACT within each of the nations with maybe a few exceptions the most charasmatic ones were the grandchildren or great grand children of the avatars but it is JUST A THEORY

*sighs* only one response

1)flutterlight no i got your post perfectly i am saying the kids who were the descendants who were not looked into were amongst the ppl in the resistances and war efforts quite possibly leaders but not visible leaders who helped the visible leaders that is what i am saying that means yes kyoshi's grand kids may have been alive and maybe even one of them may have been in the spotlight(suki POSSIBLY) as for the path and time of Sozin's comet well i don't know about a dozen grandkids of the avatars i don't think parents have that many kids for the most part and yes they would stay unrevealed BECAUSE too many stories too many generations going back anf frankly how many stories do you think they could've done all the stories it would've made the series unfoucsed and all over the place that would've been bad for the series.