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    waterandearth

    [981]May 25, 2006
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    Was Fire Lord Azulon Sozin's son? That wouldn't make sence because at Azulon's funeal the man said "Fire Lord to our nation for twenty-three years".?? (Ozai = aprox. 4rs as Fire Lord, Azulon = 23 years, O+A=27 That would mean Sozin would have been Fire Lord for (100-27=73 years ) and that didn't make sence because in the Fire Nation it looked like you didn't become Fire Lord until your 30's or 40's so he would of been over 100 when he died. Or was Azulon Sozin's grandson,??son, ??or great-grandson?

    Thanks

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    meobviously

    [982]May 25, 2006
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    Maybe Azulon became Fire Lord at a younger age. Considering how Azula complained about him being a senile geezer, it is possible that Azulon had long passed the normal age for a Fire Lord to, er - 'retire.' Or perhaps Sozen was over a hundred years old when he died; Bumi's over a hundred and he's still ruling... or was until the FN conquered Omashu.
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    mellomuse

    [983]May 26, 2006
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    waterandearth wrote:

    Was Fire Lord Azulon Sozin's son? That wouldn't make sence because at Azulon's funeal the man said "Fire Lord to our nation for twenty-three years".?? (Ozai = aprox. 4rs as Fire Lord, Azulon = 23 years, O+A=27 That would mean Sozin would have been Fire Lord for (100-27=73 years ) and that didn't make sence because in the Fire Nation it looked like you didn't become Fire Lord until your 30's or 40's so he would of been over 100 when he died. Or was Azulon Sozin's grandson,??son, ??or great-grandson?

    Thanks

    I think Azulon is supposed to be Sozen's son, based on Iroh's quote from the premiere that "your father, grandfather and great-grandfather all tried and failed to capture the Avatar."????

    Hmmm.... maybe Sozin was only??16 or 17??when he took over the Fire Nation.?? If Zuko takes over and stays good, that would provide the show with some symmetry, huh??? Evil teenage fire lord-- good teenage fire lord.?? Just a thought.

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    DrDeath10

    [984]May 26, 2006
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    This question has probably already been answered but it has been bothering me for a while.?? It seems that The Avatar can only bend one element at a time.?? Avatar Roku, Avatar Kyoshi, Aang amoung the other Avatars shown in the episode Avatar State.?? Thanks in advance.
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    Maylene

    [985]May 26, 2006
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    I have a question, I haven't been watching this show from the beginning, so I wonder, how did Prince Zuko's mother die and how and why?
    Edited on 05/26/2006 6:19pm
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    fngrsfknfshrpnr

    [986]May 26, 2006
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    Maylene wrote:
    I have a question, I haven't been watching this show from the beginning, so I wonder, how did Prince Zuko's mother die and how and why?


    there is no evidence suggesting her death (yet)
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    Maylene

    [987]May 26, 2006
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    oh ok thanks
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    shimel0418

    [988]May 26, 2006
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    The Chase was one of the most thrilling episode. What are the chances of Aang Alone defeating Azula? Does he need his friends???In that case, learning 4 elements is useless without managing??himself to use??some of the stuff he learned for?? a short time. It could help a little for him. I want to see Aang practicing all 4??bendings??at once, in one??of this Episodes. Just??like Avatar Roku, before the show begins, you can see??Roku standing on a short hill where he's bending all elements at once.??
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    DeathandDoom

    [989]May 27, 2006
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    shimel0418 wrote:
    The Chase was one of the most thrilling episode. What are the chances of Aang Alone defeating Azula? Does he need his friends? In that case, learning 4 elements is useless without managing himself to use some of the stuff he learned for a short time. It could help a little for him. I want to see Aang practicing all 4 bendings at once, in one of this Episodes. Just like Avatar Roku, before the show begins, you can see Roku standing on a short hill where he's bending all elements at once.


    ??Well, uh, I'm not quite sure what you're asking, but as to Aang verses Azula - well, let's look at the facts:

    CON:* Aang always seemed to be an equal match to Zuko.
    * Azula is FAR stronger than Zuko, and therefore would logically be stronger than Aang.
    * Aang has already fought Azula twice, and while he wasn't defeated, he certainly wasn't the victor, either.

    PRO:*Aang's strength should increase as he masters the other elements.
    * In my opinion, Aang has yet to really cut loose and use his full strengh in a fight.
    *Both times Aang has fought Azula, there were exenuating circumstances - the first time, Aang was trying to escape, not pick a fight, and the second time, Aang had gone 24 hours without sleep, and was nowhere near full strength.
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    Mutnodjmet

    [990]May 27, 2006
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    fngrsfknfshrpnr wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    I have a question, I haven't been watching this show from the beginning, so I wonder, how did Prince Zuko's mother die and how and why?
    there is no evidence suggesting her death (yet)

    Maylene:?? The answer, in full, is far more complex.?? It appears Zuko's mother was responsible for the death of Azulon (Zuko's gradfather and Fire Lord).?? She killed him to protect Zuko from Azulon's order that Osai kill Zuko in retribution for unkind remarks made my Osai concerning the death of Iroh's son during the storming of am Earth Kingdom city.?? Through her actions, her husband became Fire Lord and Zuko's life was spared.

    Her ultimate fate is not yet known.?? She literally diappeared before Azulon's funeral. I had assumed she was executed, but some wiser viewers have noted she is probably in hiding.?? Also, I am assuming she killed Azulon.?? However, reflecting on the psychotic, power-hungry cravings of Azula, it may be the daughter that was responsible for placing Osai on the throne.

    Stay tuned!

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    Mutnodjmet

    [991]May 27, 2006
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    Mutnodjmet wrote:

    fngrsfknfshrpnr wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    I have a question, I haven't been watching this show from the beginning, so I wonder, how did Prince Zuko's mother die and how and why?
    there is no evidence suggesting her death (yet)

    Maylene:?? The answer, in full, is far more complex.?? It appears Zuko's mother was responsible for the death of Azulon (Zuko's gradfather and Fire Lord).?? She killed him to protect Zuko from Azulon's order that Osai kill Zuko in retribution for unkind remarks made my Osai concerning the death of Iroh's son during the storming of am Earth Kingdom city.?? Through her actions, her husband became Fire Lord and Zuko's life was spared.

    Her ultimate fate is not yet known.?? She literally diappeared before Azulon's funeral. I had assumed she was executed, but some wiser viewers have noted she is probably in hiding.?? Also, I am assuming she killed Azulon.?? However, reflecting on the psychotic, power-hungry cravings of Azula, it may be the daughter that was responsible for placing Osai on the throne.

    Stay tuned!

    PS.?? What is Zuko's mother's name?????

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    Eman5805

    [992]May 27, 2006
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    Mutnodjmet wrote:
    Mutnodjmet wrote:

    fngrsfknfshrpnr wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    I have a question, I haven't been watching this show from the beginning, so I wonder, how did Prince Zuko's mother die and how and why?
    there is no evidence suggesting her death (yet)

    Maylene:?? The answer, in full, is far more complex.?? It appears Zuko's mother was responsible for the death of Azulon (Zuko's gradfather and Fire Lord).?? She killed him to protect Zuko from Azulon's order that Osai kill Zuko in retribution for unkind remarks made my Osai concerning the death of Iroh's son during the storming of am Earth Kingdom city.?? Through her actions, her husband became Fire Lord and Zuko's life was spared.

    Her ultimate fate is not yet known.?? She literally diappeared before Azulon's funeral. I had assumed she was executed, but some wiser viewers have noted she is probably in hiding.?? Also, I am assuming she killed Azulon.?? However, reflecting on the psychotic, power-hungry cravings of Azula, it may be the daughter that was responsible for placing Osai on the throne.

    Stay tuned!

    PS.?? What is Zuko's mother's name?????

    Ursa

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    avatardanny13

    [993]May 27, 2006
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    I have a question

    Dose anyone have any perveiws on the Avatar moive?

    and one more question..

    Will it show on T.V or theathers?
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    mellomuse

    [994]May 27, 2006
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    avatardanny13 wrote:
    I have a question Dose anyone have any perveiws on the Avatar moive? and one more question.. Will it show on T.V or theathers?

    No previews that I know of, just the description in the Episode guide here.?? It is a TV movie (kind of like the 1-hour Fairy Idol, just 100 times??better).?? The episode guide says it will air July 14.

    One more thing regarding Ursa and a mistake a lot of viewers seem to be making-- there is no direct evidence linking Ursa with Azulon's murder.?? In fact, we don't even know??for sure if??he was murdered, although his sudden death was pretty suspicious.?? I think the writers are setting a little surprise trap for us... they tried to make it look??like Ursa might be involved by??timing her sudden departure with Azulon's death.??

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    U4ric

    [995]May 27, 2006
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    Is it just me or are we going to have to go over a whole month without a new Avatar? After next weeks episode (Bitter Work ??? Tivo is calling it Sokka gets himself into a jam) it looks to me like we won???t get a new one until the TV movie on July 14th. Does anyone else have other news to show this isn???t so?

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    mellomuse

    [996]May 27, 2006
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    U4ric wrote:

    Is it just me or are we going to have to go over a whole month without a new Avatar? After next weeks episode (Bitter Work ??? Tivo is calling it Sokka gets himself into a jam) it looks to me like we won???t get a new one until the TV movie on July 14th. Does anyone else have other news to show this isn???t so?

    Nope, looks to be true. ?? But we've had a lot of new episodes, this will give Nick a chance to show some season 2 reruns on Fridays (hopefully) and THAT will give non-regular Avatar viewers a chance to catch up on the plot.?? I would be delighted if Nick chooses to do a mini-marathon of season 2 episodes around the July 4 timeframe.?? That would probably bolster the movie's ratings.

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    U4ric

    [997]May 27, 2006
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    mellomuse wrote:
    U4ric wrote:

    Is it just me or are we going to have to go over a whole month without a new Avatar? After next weeks episode (Bitter Work ??? Tivo is calling it Sokka gets himself into a jam) it looks to me like we won???t get a new one until the TV movie on July 14th. Does anyone else have other news to show this isn???t so?

    Nope, looks to be true. ?? But we've had a lot of new episodes, this will give Nick a chance to show some season 2 reruns on Fridays (hopefully) and THAT will give non-regular Avatar viewers a chance to catch up on the plot.?? I would be delighted if Nick chooses to do a mini-marathon of season 2 episodes around the July 4 timeframe.?? That would probably bolster the movie's ratings.

    If so,??a marathon??would have to be on a weekend or holiday as you suggest (kind of like on Thanksgiving) as the Friday nights appear to have been set. I found this link announcing a summer line up at Nick, but I'm not totally sure of the accuracy.

    http://www.movieweb.com/tv/news/29/12829.php

    The DVD artwork has been Aang, Katara, Sokka and Zuko. So another question - has anyone heard about what the artwork is on the Season 1??disc 5?

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    qweasdzse

    [998]May 27, 2006
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    hello I have a few questions that may have already been asked but I don't have time to look trough them.

    1. In the fortune Teller how did ang freeze the lava coming from the volacano?

    2. Why didn't Aang learn earth bending from from the badger moles in the cave of two lovers who would probably be better teachers?

    3.is zuko the only person whose hair can grow?

    4. the inventor guy is probably an airbender or else he wouldn't be able to open the special door.

    5. why does aang need to master all the elements

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    mellomuse

    [999]May 27, 2006
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    qweasdzse wrote:

    hello I have a few questions that may have already been asked but I don't have time to look trough them.

    1. In the fortune Teller how did ang freeze the lava coming from the volacano?

    2. Why didn't Aang learn earth bending from from the badger moles in the cave of two lovers who would probably be better teachers?

    3.is zuko the only person whose hair can grow?

    4. the inventor guy is probably an airbender or else he wouldn't be able to open the special door.

    5. why does aang need to master all the elements

    Umm....

    1. Aang didn't freeze the lava, just cooled it into plain ol' rock.?? Used really, really powerful airbending.

    2. Uhh... don't know??? I guess it would be hard for him to learn from them because it would probably take a while, which he doesn't have (see answer to #5) and he'd have to stay in one place to observe them.

    3.?? Yeah, I think so.?? He does seem to have Miracle Hair.

    4.?? I don't know about that one.??

    5. This one's easy.?? An Avatar is not "fully-realized" (i.e. he/she can't really access all his untapped power) until he masters all four elements.?? Aang has to defeat fire lord Ozai before Sozen's comet arrives??near the end of summer.???? Aang will only be able to do that if he has all his Avatar power, so he must learn all four elements before summer's end.?? I'd say he's got about 4 months left...

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    DeathandDoom

    [1000]May 27, 2006
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    mellomuse wrote:
    qweasdzse wrote:

    hello I have a few questions that may have already been asked but I don't have time to look trough them.

    1. In the fortune Teller how did ang freeze the lava coming from the volacano?

    2. Why didn't Aang learn earth bending from from the badger moles in the cave of two lovers who would probably be better teachers?

    3.is zuko the only person whose hair can grow?

    4. the inventor guy is probably an airbender or else he wouldn't be able to open the special door.

    5. why does aang need to master all the elements

    Umm....

    1. Aang didn't freeze the lava, just cooled it into plain ol' rock. Used really, really powerful airbending.

    2. Uhh... don't know? I guess it would be hard for him to learn from them because it would probably take a while, which he doesn't have (see answer to #5) and he'd have to stay in one place to observe them.

    3. Yeah, I think so. He does seem to have Miracle Hair.

    4. I don't know about that one.

    5. This one's easy. An Avatar is not "fully-realized" (i.e. he/she can't really access all his untapped power) until he masters all four elements. Aang has to defeat fire lord Ozai before Sozen's comet arrives near the end of summer. Aang will only be able to do that if he has all his Avatar power, so he must learn all four elements before summer's end. I'd say he's got about 4 months left...



    Aang did not learn earthbending from the badger moles for the same reason he didn't learn airbending from Appa - because they are FEROCIOUS WILD ANIMALS and would never "agree" to teach Aang. Besides, it was Sokka and the hippies who encounterd the badger moles, not Aang.

    And as for the door, the machinist probably made his own passage into the room.
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