Total Drama Island: Season 2 Discussion thread....SPOILERS allowed here.

familyguy974
[3141]Nov 11, 2009
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If Harold is the next to go, I'm not watching the show anymore. He's the only one left that I enjoy watching.
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jfsredhead16
[3142]Nov 11, 2009
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I just like to mention that before the episode Rock n Rule aired the tdi wiki said Lindsay wouuld try to vote out Duncan but acidentlly voted out herself which did happen in that episode.
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EvilOmiRules

[3143]Nov 11, 2009

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stalemate666 wrote:

LordGrievous wrote:

alagaesian wrote:

Wikia has proof that Harold's getting kicked off? *goes to check*

Woah. Okay, now I'm just curious as to how the heck he gets kicked off. And now I'm somewhat glad that Harold actually got to punch Duncan's lights out before getting eliminated. Not just for the nerd's sake, but for Duncan's sake.

Duncan is a decent character at the present moment. At least, much better than Courtney. However, he has started going down a Stu-ish path this season...I mean, he's been picking on Harold, recently confirmed just for the heck of it, without retribution. He's been able to beat Harold in any sort of contest between them. And, Harold is actually a decent competitor, as shown from the nice sum of challenges he has under his belt. And Duncan's been mopping the floor with him.

My point is, the only people Duncan got beaten by were Courtney (who was freakishly Sue-ish just a few episodes ago) and Lindsay (who had the longest streak of dumb luck I've ever seen). He's been attached to the strongest alliance in the game. He's clearly a supporting antagonist, but has not been put in his place yet, like Heather, or, in this last episode, Courtney. From my point of view, he has been slowly Stu-ifying since Ocean's Eight or Nine.

Gary-Stus aren't fun to watch, which is why I don't want Duncan to end up as one. Duncan has shown major weakness in CCHO, and thus he has become interesting again. Next episode, instead of watching as he tries to hook up with Courtney for the fifth time (and fail, for the fifth time), we get to see how Duncan deals with failure and frustration. Much more plot value and drama there.

Hey, Courtney fans, you've been complaining about how much hate Courtney has been getting on this forum. Duncan's been getting some too, but not nearly as much. Even you have to admit that. How would you like it if all the "evil" Courtney-haters started attacking Duncan too, with the same furious intensity? Or, on a more extreme level, the DC pairing in general? Didn't think so.

Be thankful that Harold backstabbed Duncan, and that Beth manipulated Courtney. It makes your two little gilded characters more human. Frankly, it was their LACK of humanity that made the Courtney-complainers, me included, so angry and annoyed with them. Their "unfair" losses are what allow us to tolerate that antagonistic couple.

And thus concludes the end of my rant. Tah-tah.

I still don't see how Duncan is an antagonist since he hasn't done anything really bad except pick on Harold, but that just makes him a bully, and even then Duncan has shown respect for Harold.

Now as for being a gary-stu there's less evidence of Duncan being a Gary-stu then him being an antagonist, especialy since he hasn't been the same since Courtney's return.

And he has a good reason for picking on harold, harold cheated Courtney off tdi and just when she was loosening up too

theres really no point in arguing about this anymore. duncan has gone back to pranking harold for fun. i would say hes over that whole courtney thing. courtney got over in total drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama(you get the idea) island and duncan appears to have gotten over it too. so whether harold deserves it for that or not is irrelevant since thats not why duncan does it anymore. the bullying is just pointless and stupid in my opinion

Edited on 11/11/2009 8:25am

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HaydenAvery
[3144]Nov 11, 2009
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im not believing this. if harold went the winner would be obvious, and the only goood character left would leave. people on wiki are just assuming harold leaves for standing up to duncan last episode. but remember duncan had a ton of screen time in rock n rule and then quite a bit in the latest episode. that punch could make duncan respect harold and have him leave. also if you caught the preview duncan appears to have his own pet now..a tarantula.
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The_Cartoon
[3145]Nov 11, 2009
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I do agree that if Harold left, it would be way too obvious that Beth would win. I mean, the other 3 are antagonists right now. That's why I can't believe it yet.
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AngelPIN
[3146]Nov 11, 2009
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Hello! I've been watching this show and reading this board since the beginning and today I decided to write some of my feelings about the present situation.
I hope the things I am reading over the internet ins't true. For one he is among my favorite characters and out of all that is left he is the one I'm rooting for. I like Beth and Owen (and I'm 50/50 on Duncan) but Owen is currently being used by Chris and Beth I hope with more screen time she will become higher in my list of like characters. If Harold does leave I'll be rooting for Beth.
I feel for Harold and he is funny plus if he goes than it will feel to much like TDI all over again (Duncan and Owen as the last two guys and in the final four). The writers must favor Duncan and Owen based on the screen time they have gotten from both shows (In fact the show should be called "Total Drama Duncan and Owen"). With other characters getting ultra little screen time to have character development (like Ezekiel and other non qualified cast for TDA) I'm hoping Total Drama the Musical will help the characters with no screen time.
Also I find certain characters more likable (or interesting) only with certain character interactions (Like with Harold and Duncan as while I hate Duncan's Bulling the two together still makes them both more interesting) so sometimes when a character leaves and my interest in a character might go with them.
Well these are my feelings and maybe I'll be more of a commenter than just a watch on this site for now on.
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HaydenAvery
[3147]Nov 11, 2009
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cool. heres my opinion on the bet. if duncan leaves, a harold vs beth final is obvious. if harold leaves you win the bet. and if owen leaves its still debatable. so tomrrows elimination might decide evrything.
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pixarprincess

[3148]Nov 11, 2009

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HaydenAvery wrote:

im not believing this. if harold went the winner would be obvious, and the only goood character left would leave. people on wiki are just assuming harold leaves for standing up to duncan last episode. but remember duncan had a ton of screen time in rock n rule and then quite a bit in the latest episode. that punch could make duncan respect harold and have him leave. also if you caught the preview duncan appears to have his own pet now..a tarantula.

What preview? I saw the har har tharsday thing (How come they don't have stoked on there anymore?) but I don't recall anything about a tarantula.

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HaydenAvery
[3149]Nov 11, 2009
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thats what im talking about. the tarantula is on harolds face and harold screams and when they are all floating and owen says awesome you can see the tarantula again floating next to duncan.
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tigerty101
[3150]Nov 11, 2009
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I can only see Harold going if its an automatic elimination challenge, and even then I can't see it happening very much. I still think it'll be a vote off elimination though, the last one of the season. I know it's just assuming things, but i wouldn't be surprised if something goes wrong with the challenge (like in Masters of Disasters), Harold saves the day (again), Beth kisses him in gratitude (that's what it looked like to me), and he gets an award from Chris as gratitude (eh, anything can happen). I know I'm probably completely wrong, but I just can't see Harold going yet, but if he does, atleast Duncan's still in it.
I only see either Owen (main one to go) or Duncan (possibly).
Owen going if the guilt gets to him and he tells the others about his deal with Chris and possably quits (like DJ). Wouldn't be surprised if everyone but Courtney offers to give Owen the money he needs if they win.
Duncan going if the above doesn't happen and Beth goes against Courtney to vote off Duncan.
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alagaesian
[3151]Nov 11, 2009
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Certainly, it's going to be interesting to see how Duncan acts towards Harold, after getting beat up by him. Is he going to respect him? Be afraid of him? Torment him for revenge? It might be a contributing factor in Harold's elimination...

And, yet, I still find it morbidly amusing that one of the only reasons Harold was even able to best Duncan in a fistfight was because Duncan taught him how to punch.
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iamtunk
[3152]Nov 11, 2009
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ya know, they might not make it so obvious and have Beth or Harold win. I mean, it really is obvious that one of the two will win. Maybe they're tricking us and someone else will win. *cough* Duncan *cough* Please, not Owen! & I just can't see Courtney winning.

Welcome AngelPIN. Yes, they should call it Total Drama Duncan and Owen. lol. I don't mind Duncan so much but Owen is getting a little annoying.
Edited on 11/11/2009 4:07pm
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HaydenAvery
[3153]Nov 11, 2009
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duncan wont win. i assure that.
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iamtunk
[3154]Nov 11, 2009
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probably not. we'll see
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Brodoin15
[3155]Nov 12, 2009
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Where is it said that Harold is out next?
I'm not saying he can't be voted off, but if he goes, it is almost certain that Beth will win. Possibly Ducan, but still more likely Beth.
I would rather Harold stay, not just because I like him, but also because I don't want the final episode to be obvious, or end in a way few like.
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PintheDog
[3156]Nov 12, 2009
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I only hope it's true that Harold goes next because Hayden will finally leave things alone.
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HaydenAvery
[3157]Nov 12, 2009
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well when duncan goes tonight a great deal of you will be surprised. sorry pinthedog but we both know duncan and courtney are too evil to win.
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shishkabob999
[3158]Nov 12, 2009
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Just remember to stick to our bet if Harold does go home.
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HaydenAvery
[3159]Nov 12, 2009
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im a man of my word. ill try my best to say actual nice things about courtney if i lose. but i wont. i promise you that.
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iamtunk
[3160]Nov 12, 2009
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well, it's airing tonight, so I guess we'll see. Well, I won't. I have to wait til monday when it's put on CN's website since I don't have CN. but I can't wait to come on here later tonight and see who won. Yes...I like spoiling things for myself. lol.
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