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| futuramarama wrote: |
| maybe the entire series at this point has been one long dream, and the next episode is the first one that isn't |
I need to rant on dream sequences. This is getting the thread off topic, but I'd like to rant on them because I am mad at them. I think those types of dream sequences(with the exception of some that are nicely done) really stupid. I read a fanfiction(my first mistake...even though there ARE some good fanfic) where it was all a dream. Then she was like "But we don't know WHY he dreamt it zomg he must be thinking about them being in a relationship so figure out what happens in my sequel nowww!". Uhhh no, you aren't clever. It's the most uncreative "twist" I've heard of. You can literally plug in any situation and say that it was all a dream in the end. It's a waste, because you could be writing about something that actually happened. The Seddie arc would still be Seddie as a dream because it would be in Sam's/Freddie's/whoever's subconscious so the person dreaming it wants this relationship to happen(just deep deep down). So you don't even get out of that to make it a Creddie or no ship endgame. They definitely COULD, but then the dream would be entirely insignificant to the show.
Out of curiosity I watched the HM alternate ending when it showed up on the front of youtube. From what I got out of it, this whole entire show was a figment of Miley Cyrus's imagination. Like when she was a little kid she dreamed up the whole thing. It's creepy how detailed and long the dream is if you didn't. Without dreaming of anything involving fantasy along the way?? I don't buy it. You dreamt you are asleep and you dreamt you had dreams within your dreams too?? It's not Inception, it isn't "clever", it doesn't make you think, it's stupid. IDK I just think it's a cop out. It's not like I'd be mad that it wouldn't be real, but I think that's just taking an easy way out and they're pointless.
All of Dan's dream sequences have been obvious and meant to tell the viewer "He/she is dreaming because of something, which will cause this to happen". Like Carly is dreaming of her switching schools because she is considering it(done outrageously enough to make it obvious) which is important to the plot. There's a reason for it. A dream sequence is a waste of 4 episodes.
| vanillacupcakes wrote: |
I need to rant on dream sequences. This is getting the thread off topic, but I'd like to rant on them because I am mad at them. I think those types of dream sequences(with the exception of some that are nicely done) really stupid. I read a fanfiction(my first mistake...even though there ARE some good fanfic) where it was all a dream. Then she was like "But we don't know WHY he dreamt it zomg he must be thinking about them being in a relationship so figure out what happens in my sequel nowww!". Uhhh no, you aren't clever. It's the most uncreative "twist" I've heard of. You can literally plug in any situation and say that it was all a dream in the end. It's a waste, because you could be writing about something that actually happened. The Seddie arc would still be Seddie as a dream because it would be in Sam's/Freddie's/whoever's subconscious so the person dreaming it wants this relationship to happen(just deep deep down). So you don't even get out of that to make it a Creddie or no ship endgame. They definitely COULD, but then the dream would be entirely insignificant to the show. Out of curiosity I watched the HM alternate ending when it showed up on the front of youtube. From what I got out of it, this whole entire show was a figment of Miley Cyrus's imagination. Like when she was a little kid she dreamed up the whole thing. It's creepy how detailed and long the dream is if you didn't. Without dreaming of anything involving fantasy along the way?? I don't buy it. You dreamt you are asleep and you dreamt you had dreams within your dreams too?? It's not Inception, it isn't "clever", it doesn't make you think, it's stupid. IDK I just think it's a cop out. It's not like I'd be mad that it wouldn't be real, but I think that's just taking an easy way out and they're pointless. All of Dan's dream sequences have been obvious and meant to tell the viewer "He/she is dreaming because of something, which will cause this to happen". Like Carly is dreaming of her switching schools because she is considering it(done outrageously enough to make it obvious) which is important to the plot. There's a reason for it. A dream sequence is a waste of 4 episodes. |
.| vanillacupcakes wrote: |
I need to rant on dream sequences. This is getting the thread off topic, but I'd like to rant on them because I am mad at them. I think those types of dream sequences(with the exception of some that are nicely done) really stupid. I read a fanfiction(my first mistake...even though there ARE some good fanfic) where it was all a dream. Then she was like "But we don't know WHY he dreamt it zomg he must be thinking about them being in a relationship so figure out what happens in my sequel nowww!". Uhhh no, you aren't clever. It's the most uncreative "twist" I've heard of. You can literally plug in any situation and say that it was all a dream in the end. It's a waste, because you could be writing about something that actually happened. The Seddie arc would still be Seddie as a dream because it would be in Sam's/Freddie's/whoever's subconscious so the person dreaming it wants this relationship to happen(just deep deep down). So you don't even get out of that to make it a Creddie or no ship endgame. They definitely COULD, but then the dream would be entirely insignificant to the show. Out of curiosity I watched the HM alternate ending when it showed up on the front of youtube. From what I got out of it, this whole entire show was a figment of Miley Cyrus's imagination. Like when she was a little kid she dreamed up the whole thing. It's creepy how detailed and long the dream is if you didn't. Without dreaming of anything involving fantasy along the way?? I don't buy it. You dreamt you are asleep and you dreamt you had dreams within your dreams too?? It's not Inception, it isn't "clever", it doesn't make you think, it's stupid. IDK I just think it's a cop out. It's not like I'd be mad that it wouldn't be real, but I think that's just taking an easy way out and they're pointless. All of Dan's dream sequences have been obvious and meant to tell the viewer "He/she is dreaming because of something, which will cause this to happen". Like Carly is dreaming of her switching schools because she is considering it(done outrageously enough to make it obvious) which is important to the plot. There's a reason for it. A dream sequence is a waste of 4 episodes. |
Since Dan said Creddie will continue the only way they can do it is a Sam dream or daydream IMO. If Sam has the dream it won't ruin the possibility of Creddie, Sam having hidden feelings for Freddie is far different then him jumping from Sam to Carly.
| Canada_Michael wrote: | ||
Since Dan said Creddie will continue the only way they can do it is a Sam dream or daydream IMO. If Sam has the dream it won't ruin the possibility of Creddie, Sam having hidden feelings for Freddie is far different then him jumping from Sam to Carly. |
Oh wow, I ended up talking about Seddie when I thought I would give that up. Whoops, my bad...
Now, I don't reallyyy mind if it's one episode or a short dream sequence. But if it's 4 episodes or the whole show I think it's a waste and I still stand by that. If he wants this dream sequence, then put it all in one episode. If it's a dream it wouldn't feel "rushed". Sam having feelings/dreaming about it still gets in the waythough...like what was the point of the dream in the first place?? To please the Seddie fans?? Ughh.
@Canada: Are you being sarcastic?? Usually when you're being sarcastic you're use a smiley face(not meaning to be creepy or anything). If you aren't, where did he say Creddie is happening?? Did I miss out on something here...?
On his blog at the end of his iLost My Mind Post in small type it says: "Oh, and if you're a "shipper" – don't go freakin' out on us! Whether you're a Seddie or a Creddie, trust us – you'll have plenty to be happy about in the future of iCarly " I take that to mean neither ship is dead.
| vanillacupcakes wrote: |
Oh wow, I ended up talking about Seddie when I thought I would give that up. Whoops, my bad... Now, I don't reallyyy mind if it's one episode or a short dream sequence. But if it's 4 episodes or the whole show I think it's a waste and I still stand by that. If he wants this dream sequence, then put it all in one episode. If it's a dream it wouldn't feel "rushed". Sam having feelings/dreaming about it still gets in the waythough...like what was the point of the dream in the first place?? To please the Seddie fans?? Ughh. @Canada: Are you being sarcastic?? Usually when you're being sarcastic you're use a smiley face(not meaning to be creepy or anything). If you aren't, where did he say Creddie is happening?? Did I miss out on something here...? |
I agree that most dream sequences are either silly and stupid or a way for the writers to find a (stupidly) easy way out. However I did like the ending of "Newhart", where the series was just a dream of Dr. Bob Hartley, Bob Newhart's character from his previous series "The Bob Newhart Show." But of course that was really meant as an ultra hyper super duper mega major skewering of all those other idiot TV dream sequences. 
@Canada: Ohh, okay. I think I remember him saying something like that when he was talking about the new episodes, but I guess I just took that as Dan Schneider BS to try and keep everybody to watch the show. I just don't want 4 episodes of something that doesn't even exist...even in the iCarlyverse. [off topic]
@chica: I can't even see my sig; I didn't think it would show up. Lol well thanks I'm being lazy and just took it off of tumblr. My old sig was too Seddie-ish. Even my sig in the Seddie Bickering Sidekicks forum isn't Seddie. So I just made it more neutral, because all types of shippers are on here and not just Seddie. I mean I love Seddie but I wouldn't mind if they all just love/date each other and have a threesome tbh. Dan wins, he can flip ships back and forth...idc right now.[/off topic]
I wonder when the new promo would air?? I thought it would air at FOP, but instead they promo'd literally everything else. Everything I'm looking for a promo it always fails. It's probably going to be a random day. I probably won't bother watching the Spongebob special on Friday for it.
| vanillacupcakes wrote: |
@Canada: Ohh, okay. I think I remember him saying something like that when he was talking about the new episodes, but I guess I just took that as Dan Schneider BS to try and keep everybody to watch the show. I just don't want 4 episodes of something that doesn't even exist...even in the iCarlyverse. [off topic] @chica: I can't even see my sig; I didn't think it would show up. Lol well thanks I'm being lazy and just took it off of tumblr. My old sig was too Seddie-ish. Even my sig in the Seddie Bickering Sidekicks forum isn't Seddie. So I just made it more neutral, because all types of shippers are on here and not just Seddie. I mean I love Seddie but I wouldn't mind if they all just love/date each other and have a threesome tbh. Dan wins, he can flip ships back and forth...idc right now.[/off topic] I wonder when the new promo would air?? I thought it would air at FOP, but instead they promo'd literally everything else. Everything I'm looking for a promo it always fails. It's probably going to be a random day. I probably won't bother watching the Spongebob special on Friday for it. |
