Nickelodeon (ended 2012)
Iamdapwnage wrote: |
Meh Carly's Mary-Sueness is nothing compared to Zoey's. My god I hated her... |
ilivelovemusic wrote: | ||
Haha I've always preffered the stupid pretty straight haired brunette one.. Hmm i forgot her name... |
so far, i like Tori the best out of all the mary-sues. She's muchmuchmuch more easy to tolerate because she screws up in at least every episode. this is why she's more interesting. she's real.
hurr05 wrote: |
so far, i like Tori the best out of all the mary-sues. She's muchmuchmuch more easy to tolerate because she screws up in at least every episode. this is why she's more interesting. she's real. |
@lamdapwnge, I agree 100% Zoey was absolutely the worst mary-sue character. Way too perfect and it bothered me. Carly isn't that bad, I actually kind of like her, and I also kind of like Tori, since she does get called out on her crap.
NOTHING EVER HAPPENED TO ZOEY. like HUH?? nobody is that perfect. like everything went her way, everyone wanted to be her friend, yadda yadda yadda.
Actually yes...everything did go her way at the end. She got the guy she wanted, kept all her friends and even stayed friends with her ex, I'd call that getting everything she wanted/everything going her way.
Seddie fans, you get what you want. Sam kisses Freddie at the end.
RomanZolanski wrote: | ||||
Nicole? |
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@jegolas, true. we did get what we wanted. but that's not the case all the time. we don't always get what we want from sam. I WANT HER TO CONFESS HER LOVE FOR FREDDIE ....but this has yet to happen
Since these five points are entirely Seddie focused, my responses will be an overload of Seddie. Just a warning.
1. I think Freddie has been on her mind before that. Why would she be mentioning that she kissed Freddie in the first place?? Yes, she was on laughing gas, but if it was buried far into her mind because she "forgot it ever happened", laughing gas wouldn't randomly bring it back up. It's like alcohol, it loosens the tongue. When you're drunk, usually you're saying what's on your mind. Unless it's just the people I know, because I don't hang around that many drinkers. Maybe it was just a plot device for a sequel, but it's interesting to think about.
2. Yes. Maybe he subconsciously liked her, but it's too much of a shock for Freddie to dive into a relationship. It was proven in iSYL Freddie is not going to be in a relationship unless the feelings are genuine on both sides. He's too much of a thinker, plus a couple probably won't arise until later on in the series anyways. He didn't push her away, nor did he run away from her like in iTwins(even though it was Melanie he thought it was Sam so he thought he was rejecting Sam). He was just in shock, and it will take him time to reach a consensus.
2 and 4. He doesn't think Sam hates him though, perse. Do you believe in the whole "game" thing most Seddie shippers believe? Well Freddie's playing the "game" too, by pretending Sam hates him. He knows she doesn't, the whole "Well you hate me" speech was more light-hearted and joking to ease the tension a little. It's just that Sam loving him never crossed his mind.
3. Carly's not going to let this slide. She talks about EVERYTHING right away. She doesn't hold it in or wait. She follows her instinct. She was in that last scene for a reason. Sam and Freddie probably won't have to keep it a secret from Carly because Carly will come up to them and talk about it before they have a chance to keep things a secret. Your speculation sounds interesting, but personally I get annoyed by the misunderstandings/heard the wrong pieces of a conversation. But I'm annoyed in a good way, they capture my attention and make me feel frustration.
4. I think it would be pretty similar. Sam could still "pretend" to hate Freddie even if they dated. iOMG did show that Sam was a little nicer, but she's still Sam. So I guess it would just be a tame version of where they are at during this moment. But I honestly don't know what will happen. The dynamic will not be ruined though, this isn't Loliver or Channy here. If it changes completely, I will stop liking Seddie, I'm serious. The only reason people like them is because of their personalities and the way they interact with each other right now. They can develop, but I don't want them to change. I'm sure Dan wouldn't let that happen.
5. I'd rather not have Seddie holding back(double negatives yay!) because of Carly, because I can imagine all these Seddie shippers being angry at Carly like she's a barrier and obstacle of Seddie happening. While it might be true(because Freddie supposedly has "loved" Carly), if they addressed that straight out it would be bad. I don't think Carly will react to this kiss the same way she did in iTTK or be that affected by a Sam/Freddie relationship.
I would also rather not have Seddie happen mainly through Carly. It needs to happen without Carly influence, to prove that they love each other on their own. Carly has gotten Sam together with other people(except Shane but she still influenced it). This needs to be different from her other relationships.
teenj12 wrote: |
I keep telling you guys, Sam saw that Carly saw. |
teenj12 wrote: |
I keep telling you guys, Sam saw that Carly saw. |
Really? I don't remember hearing you say that before. I need to listen better, lol. I thought Sam was too focused on what was going on to see Carly, but I guess I'll watch the clip again. If she did see Carly through the window, would Sam do anything differently if she DIDN'T know Carly was there?
vanillacupcakes wrote: | ||
Really? I don't remember hearing you say that before. I need to listen better, lol. I thought Sam was too focused on what was going on to see Carly, but I guess I'll watch the clip again. If she did see Carly through the window, would Sam do anything differently if she DIDN'T know Carly was there? |