Nickelodeon (ended 2008)
| Taang_Forever wrote: |
| We don't know that... for sure... |
They said it at the funeral.Zuko father had to kill someone.
| omichief wrote: |
| no he dint the fire lord told zuko's dad that he had to feel how it is to loose a first born son |
yeah and she took his place.if she didn't zuko would be dead
| Colonel_Brian wrote: |
| Nope heres my theory...................................Ursa got Azula to spill the beans and she found out what is in store for Zuko she ran off to retrive him after she witnessed it but Azula or Ozai caught her and she was murdered. |
| Colonel_Brian wrote: |
| Well I think it is Ursa doesn't seem like the mother who would abandon her child cause she wan't to save her own skin if there was any crime ursa would take responisbility or run away with Zuko. |
| Taang_Forever wrote: |
| Azula said Azulon told Ozai that since he didn't take pity upon what had recently happened to Iroh's son, Ozai himself would have to feel the pain of losing a first born son. That night Zuko's mom came in and told him everything she's done, she has done for him. So she took Zuko's place, and she was killed in his place. Ozai probably didn't care about Zuko, but maybe he did about his wife, so he went and killed Azulon. The dude was pretty old anyway. Then, since Iroh was nowhere to be found, and Ozai probably threw in a few words saying Iroh is a coward, he was proclaimed the next firelord. That's what i think anyway. |
okay, how's this for a theory.......... azula was lying!
okay, no, i'm just kidding, here's my real theory: azulon told ozai that he had to kill his firstborn son to know how iroh felt (since he obviously didn't). and then when she said to azula "i think it's time for a talk" real mom-like and all, and then azula told her about what azulon had said and ursa either tried to stop it and was done away with, or sacrificed herself in zuko's place and azulon took that since she was still technically someone ozai cared about (if he cared for zuko at all).
none of our theories explain why azulon "happened" to die that same night though.
okay, some of the stupidest theories on this topic IN MY OPPINION that i've heard on other forums:
- ursa left to lead a revolution against the fire nation. uh, no. ursa was just fine with the war she laughed with her kids when iroh said that he was burning Ba Sing Se to the ground. she wasn't about to lead a revolution. and where did this come form, anyway? it doesn't explain why azulon died, or why ozai was crowned, or what happened to azulon's threat.
- ursa killed azulon and had to flee for her safety. this is, maybe, possible judging by the turtleduck scene but i REALLY do not think ursa is the kind of person who would kill someone. and besides, someone would have noticed a knife-wound, poison in a cup, strangle marks, etc. if your king is the "picture of health" and he suddenly kicks the bucket, you don't just go "oh, okay, well what a shame, poor sap must have died in his sleep".
- azula or ozai killed azulon. why would they do that? to save zuko? doubt it. to make ozai fire-lord? well, they could go one of two ways: wait and see if azulon changes his mind before dying, or kill him off now and make iroh fire-lord even sooner. besides, i don't think azula would have killed her grandfather. not because she wasn't capable, but i think she was still young enough to be afraid she would get caught. she was only seven or eight it looked like.
- ursa killed azulon because she wanted her husband to become fire-lord. Does anyone else see a ton of things wrong with this? how would she know that they wouldn't just crown iroh?
those are my thoughts. i still can't figure out why azulon just "happened" to die the night ursa disappeared, only a short time after luten died, and the day azulon told ozai that he had to kill zuko.
i guess we'll just have to wait and see.
i thought zuko's mom sacrificed herself so zuko wouldnt be killed???
