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Will Ty Lee and / or Mai have a fallout with Azula?

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    nyfan

    [1]Dec 5, 2006
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    Will there ever be a falling out between Azula, and Ty Lee / Mai?

    Ty Lee is more easy to read. I see a good side in Ty Lee, she is not evil. She was con by Azula in joining her. Azula is like a hero to her. Azula probably befriended her, for her selfish reasons.??

    If the writers decide to have a falling out, it could do two ways, both ways starting with Iroh telling her the truth about Azula, while he is captive.??in the end of Book 3, near the climax. Azula continues to do her evil deads, and Ty Lee could say Azula that is enough, please stop.??And Azula could attack her. Or when as far as Azula is concerned, served her usefulness, just turn on her, because Ty Lee has a good side. Azula said she was sniff out weakness in anyone.

    Mai on the other hand, I have no idea. I don't think Mai has a good side, or a bad side. She just doesn't care one way or the other.

    The only person Azula has any chance of having??any loyality to, is her father. And some of us, are not sure about that.

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    nyfan

    [2]Dec 5, 2006
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    This is the second Ty Lee / Mai post this week, and no response. You guys don't seem to see the things I see. Or you have zero sympathy for them.??If you think Azula is using Zuko, than how can you not think the same of Mai / Ty Lee?

    How could you not have any sympathy for them? Especially??if you have sympathy for Zuko. If you don't have sympathy for Zuko, than you just don't have sympathy for anyone in the Fire Nation, which is your proactive.

    Firebenders are people too.Ozai and Azula are evil, because they are evil, not because they are in the Fire Nation.

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    doctor_lee

    [3]Dec 5, 2006
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    It's too much to read.
    People are lazy...
    Anyways, I think Mai would become good, more than Ty Lee.
    Maybe it's just the scene where she had a crush on Zuko.
    Anyways, in the third season, Zuko and Mai, they are supposed to interact a lot.
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    JAKandDAX123

    [4]Dec 5, 2006
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    I could see that happening.
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    Versus_XIII

    [5]Dec 5, 2006
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    I think so. Maybe Azula might change her allegiances as well. Who knows. This show has many twists.
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    Airawende

    [6]Dec 5, 2006
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    I don't know about them having a falling out, unless Azula wants it to happen. She's manipulative, so it seems like something she may be able to stop if she still needs Mai or Ty Lee's allegiance. Not sure, I guess anything's possible.

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    doctor_lee

    [7]Dec 5, 2006
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    I doubt Azula will change.
    Her going against Lord Ozai to become the leader of the Fire Nation seems possible but i doubt she'll join Aang.
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    nyfan

    [8]Dec 5, 2006
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    I disagree I see more good in Ty Lee. I think Ty Lee is very naieve, has to big or naieve of a heart, that she see good in Azula. I think when all is said, and done Ty Lee will die at the hands of Azula, either because Azula no longer has use for her, or Ty Lee shows sympathy and compassion (I think we all for what person), which in the mind of Azula is weakness.

    Mai is a wild card to me, she is not evil like Azula, but I don't know if she has compassion or kindness, like I think Ty Lee does. I don't know what is going to happen with her. To my amazement, she is not afriad of Azula. I give her credit for that, how can you not be afriad of Azula? She is evil and powerful.

    But I think we can all agree, Azula is using them, just like she is using Zuko.

    Edited on 12/05/2006 6:06pm
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    doctor_lee

    [9]Dec 5, 2006
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    nyfan wrote:

    I disagree I see more good in Ty Lee. I think Ty Lee is very naieve, has to big or naieve of a heart, that she see good in Azula. I think when all is said, and done Ty Lee will die at the hands of Azula, either because Azula no longer has use for her, or Ty Lee shows sympathy and compassion (I think we all for what person), which in the mind of Azula is weakness.

    Mai is a wild card to me, she is not evil like Azula, but I don't know if she has compassion or kindness, like I think Ty Lee does. I don't know what is going to happen with her. To my amazement, she is not afriad of Azula. I give her credit for that, how can you not be afriad of Azula? She is evil and powerful.

    But I think we can all agree, Azula is using them, just like she is using Zuko.


    I can see Ty Lee going to the good side.
    However, I see good in Mai too.
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    Airawende

    [10]Dec 5, 2006
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    I don't see much of anything in Mai...mostly because she has a limited range of emotions I can't make a call on her yet.
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    doctor_lee

    [11]Dec 5, 2006
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    Airawende wrote:
    I don't see much of anything in Mai...mostly because she has a limited range of emotions I can't make a call on her yet.

    She probably is hiding all her emotions.
    I'm guessing she still likes Zuko.
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    nyfan

    [12]Dec 5, 2006
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    doctor_lee wrote:
    nyfan wrote:

    I disagree I see more good in Ty Lee. I think Ty Lee is very naieve, has to big or naieve of a heart, that she see good in Azula. I think when all is said, and done Ty Lee will die at the hands of Azula, either because Azula no longer has use for her, or Ty Lee shows sympathy and compassion (I think we all for what person), which in the mind of Azula is weakness.

    Mai is a wild card to me, she is not evil like Azula, but I don't know if she has compassion or kindness, like I think Ty Lee does. I don't know what is going to happen with her. To my amazement, she is not afriad of Azula. I give her credit for that, how can you not be afriad of Azula? She is evil and powerful.

    But I think we can all agree, Azula is using them, just like she is using Zuko.

    I can see Ty Lee going to the good side. However, I see good in Mai too.

    I didn't say I don't see any good in Mai. In my opinion, it is easier to see it in Ty Lee. As far as them going to the good side, anything is possiable. I think it is more likely, Azula would kill them.

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    PrimoNation

    [13]Dec 5, 2006
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    Ty Lee may be naive, but she has a very REAL fear of Azula.?? This will prevent her from ever taking a first step towards abandoning or even disagreeing with Azula.?? On the other hand, Mai is only along for the ride.?? She has shown she really doesn't care less about Azula's "mission".?? She refused to follow Katara and Sokka in The Drill.?? She didn't even bother to even attempt any action against Toph & company in Crossroads when she said 'take the bear'(although she probably couldn't have done much).?? And she really did absolutely nothing to assist Ty Lee during the scene between Toph, Sokka, and the Earth King when Azula had to put a stop to things with the Blue Flame.

    I think Mai joined Azula's group as a way to escape the boredom of her family and New Ozai (Omashu).?? She's not there to 'further the Fire Nation'.... she really isn't concerned with that one bit.?? Ty Lee on the other hand was manipulated into joining because she is afraid of Azula.... never underestimate that power Azula has over her.?? It can keep the 'good' in Ty Lee hidden for a VERY long time.

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    nyfan

    [14]Dec 5, 2006
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    PrimoNation wrote:

    never underestimate that power Azula has over her.?? It can keep the 'good' in Ty Lee hidden for a VERY long time.

    I said before Azula has some mental powers to get people to do things, common sense says they wouldn't do.

    This is a show edventully, characters will be true to themselfs. Ty Lee is not evil, she has good inside her. And it will come out edventully, because that is her true nature. It might not be till the very end, and she might die because of it (just like Jet),??but still it will happen.

    Maybe Iroh can plant a seed in their heads about the true Azula, while he is impressioned.

    Edited on 12/05/2006 6:40pm
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    Neurosylum

    [15]Dec 5, 2006
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    Has anyone noticed that Ty Lee's infatuation with Sokka is getting more frequent and stronger? If that's true, then I think the creators will lead us to Ty Lee's conversion to the good side by Sokka.

    However, if Azula were to persuade Ty Lee to come back, she'd use the fact that he likes someone else.
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    nyfan

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    Neurosylum wrote:
    Has anyone noticed that Ty Lee's infatuation with Sokka is getting more frequent and stronger? If that's true, then I think the creators will lead us to Ty Lee's conversion to the good side by Sokka. However, if Azula were to persuade Ty Lee to come back, she'd use the fact that he likes someone else.

    Or Azula could have Sokka in position to kill. Ty Lee would intercept, and beg Azula to please spear him, and that could be the breaking point, Azula refuces,??when Ty Lee sees what a monster Azula is, and / or Azula sees that Ty Lee has compassion and kindness, thereby a weakness.

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    doctor_lee

    [17]Dec 5, 2006
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    I think Ty Lee is just playing around with Sokka.
    I also think that she only likes him because he looks "cute".
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    brokensocks

    [18]Dec 5, 2006
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    I think Ty Lee is pure evil on the inside but pretends to be all nice and bubbly on the outside.

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    millan2sky

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    doctor_lee wrote:
    I think Ty Lee is just playing around with Sokka. I also think that she only likes him because he looks "cute".

    I think so to

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    picketposter14

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    I know this should go on the Question/Answer thread, but more of you will see it and know it: Can Mai or Ty Lee firebend?
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