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Why was Iroh role so small?

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    isabelwhatx

    [21]Aug 7, 2008
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    True. Toph doesn't really have any emotional turmoil. Except, of course, when she goes on a field trip with Zuko
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    Water78

    [22]Aug 7, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:
    It had nothing to do with Mako's death. Bryke have said in an interview that Iroh was always going to have a small role in Season 3, Mako or no. It's a simple fact that there comes a time in the story when the "wise mentor" character has to depart - this was not Iroh's story - he has to leave so that the heroes can learn to grow up and start acting by themselves without having him around to save the day when everything goes wrong. Iroh was not present much in B3 for the same reason that Yoda and Obi-wan were dead in the last Star Wars movie, why Dumbledore was killed in the 6th Harry Potter book, why Gandalf was dragged down into a pit by the balrog just when his friends really needed him, why Merlin was killed some time before King Arthur's greatest battle, why Enkidu dies just when Gilgamesh needs him most, etc. It's part of the "Hero's Journey" storyline that Avatar has adhered to.

    it's said in book 3 fire volume 2 i think the one with the commentary on day of the black sun part
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    AGodAmongGods

    [23]Aug 7, 2008
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    i concur, there should of been more Iroh episodes.
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    LondonParisNYC

    [24]Aug 7, 2008
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    True. Toph doesn't really have any emotional turmoil. Except, of course, when she goes on a field trip with Zuko

    I used to think Toph was a really one dimensional character, but I realized her growth was very subtle. She learned to accept people into life and to trust. It wasn't blatant, but people with eye for writing and character development could pick up on that.

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    isabelwhatx

    [25]Aug 7, 2008
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    LondonParisNYC wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    True. Toph doesn't really have any emotional turmoil. Except, of course, when she goes on a field trip with Zuko

    I used to think Toph was a really one dimensional character, but I realized her growth was very subtle. She learned to accept people into life and to trust. It wasn't blatant, but people with eye for writing and character development could pick up on that.


    It was very subtle, I must admit. But she showed no signs of actual struggle in the process except for a few occasional slip ups.
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    LondonParisNYC

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    True. Toph doesn't really have any emotional turmoil. Except, of course, when she goes on a field trip with Zuko

    I used to think Toph was a really one dimensional character, but I realized her growth was very subtle. She learned to accept people into life and to trust. It wasn't blatant, but people with eye for writing and character development could pick up on that.

    It was very subtle, I must admit. But she showed no signs of actual struggle in the process except for a few occasional slip ups.

    which stayed true to her character, because she wasn't one to let emotions effect her or show through.

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    isabelwhatx

    [27]Aug 7, 2008
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    Yes'm. But she became more mature. It wasn't really something she could choose. The time came for puberty to hit Katara, Aang, Sokka, and Zuko all had... different types of problems.
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    carlsonem

    [28]Aug 7, 2008
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    I really do not know why Iroh had a small role. He is the best character on the show. I wanted to see him completely destroy Ozai. I mean this guy got the role of firelord stolen away from him and Ozai sent his crazy daughter to kill him. Iroh had to put up with too much crap. Although i do admire the fact he has self control and did not go psyco.
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    sharpguard

    [29]Aug 7, 2008
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    You may want to change the title,it sounds a little sexual.
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    isabelwhatx

    [30]Aug 7, 2008
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    carlsonem wrote:
    I really do not know why Iroh had a small role. He is the best character on the show. I wanted to see him completely destroy Ozai. I mean this guy got the role of firelord stolen away from him and Ozai sent his crazy daughter to kill him. Iroh had to put up with too much crap. Although i do admire the fact he has self control and did not go psyco.

    Well, Iroh understood that it was Aang's job. If Iroh had a larger role I think that Aang would've been undermined. This was Aang's time to shine.
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    Axrendale

    [31]Aug 7, 2008
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    Iroh needed to have a small role because it wasn't his story - this is the Story of Aang and Zuko, and as such those two are the ones who need to get everything done (recieving occaisonal help from their friends). As awsome as he is, Iroh could no more have a big role in the Story than Avatar Roku could.
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    slumshoes

    [32]Aug 8, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:
    Iroh needed to have a small role because it wasn't his story - this is the Story of Aang and Zuko, and as such those two are the ones who need to get everything done (recieving occaisonal help from their friends). As awsome as he is, Iroh could no more have a big role in the Story than Avatar Roku could.
    I have no problem of Iroh having a small role in the finale. But he should have took his shirt off when he liberated Ba Sing Se. I mean, he got ripped in the cell all for nothing.
    Edited on 08/08/2008 4:45am
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    isabelwhatx

    [33]Aug 8, 2008
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    TRUE! Ahhahaha. I was so looking forward to epically-buff Iroh. I didn't appreciate the White Lotus uniform. It covered his new muscle.
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    WiseLad

    [34]Aug 8, 2008
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    he didn't want BSS girls to go crazy

    about Toph, it was subtle, but just like she began to trust others, she also began to open up about herself and her own feelings, after all, she did dictate to Katara what to write to her parents.
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    isabelwhatx

    [35]Aug 8, 2008
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    That was a huge step. AND she told Sokka about her feelings towards Katara. Toph didn't trust anyone in the beginning of the series. She remained anonymous to everyone, giving herself the name "The Blind Bandit". She hid from her parents and kept things to herself. Towards the end she was much more open. I think she stereotyped herself and didn't want to break character.
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