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    joeking14

    [241]Jan 11, 2008
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    GolenBlue wrote:
    Sokka is like 16 and Toph is like 13. It's kinda disgusting when they both make out, but I support Tokka so I say wait until she's like 20. xD

    I believe I speak for everyone when I say WTF!?!?!?! when do they make out?

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    LeonMorado

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    Animecookie123 wrote:
    Archon30 wrote:

    Damn your oily hides, she's 12! Have you ever had a 12 year old with a crush on you? Didn't think so. 12 year old people are called SMALL CHILDREN! I look down on Aang's relationship with Katara for similar reasons (that, and the poor writing that revolves around them. Then again, Aang is, actually 112 years old). But, at least there Katara is the older, more mature one (that, and women choose. A sad fact of life for us men, but still a fact).

    It is a cute little crush she has on one such as Sokka, but like 99% of all Avatar ships, it has been blown grossly out of proportion!

    But Sokka acts like a 12 year old, so it balances out. And by the way 3 years isn't that much of a difference... My friend (who is 13) dated a 16 year old. So there for I win... *goes off and listens to Gackt*
    my friend had his ipod stolen, robbery must be ok too.

    again, it's not about numbers. the problem is that toph is a CHILD.
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    joeking14

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    LeonMorado wrote:
    Animecookie123 wrote:
    Archon30 wrote:

    Damn your oily hides, she's 12! Have you ever had a 12 year old with a crush on you? Didn't think so. 12 year old people are called SMALL CHILDREN! I look down on Aang's relationship with Katara for similar reasons (that, and the poor writing that revolves around them. Then again, Aang is, actually 112 years old). But, at least there Katara is the older, more mature one (that, and women choose. A sad fact of life for us men, but still a fact).

    It is a cute little crush she has on one such as Sokka, but like 99% of all Avatar ships, it has been blown grossly out of proportion!

    But Sokka acts like a 12 year old, so it balances out. And by the way 3 years isn't that much of a difference... My friend (who is 13) dated a 16 year old. So there for I win... *goes off and listens to Gackt*
    my friend had his ipod stolen, robbery must be ok too. again, it's not about numbers. the problem is that toph is a CHILD.

    And under most laws so is Sokka. HTF!! can you compare a 12 year old having a crush on a 15 year old to robbery of ??100-odd worth of a gadget.

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    LeonMorado

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    joeking14 wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:
    Animecookie123 wrote:
    Archon30 wrote:

    Damn your oily hides, she's 12! Have you ever had a 12 year old with a crush on you? Didn't think so. 12 year old people are called SMALL CHILDREN! I look down on Aang's relationship with Katara for similar reasons (that, and the poor writing that revolves around them. Then again, Aang is, actually 112 years old). But, at least there Katara is the older, more mature one (that, and women choose. A sad fact of life for us men, but still a fact).

    It is a cute little crush she has on one such as Sokka, but like 99% of all Avatar ships, it has been blown grossly out of proportion!

    But Sokka acts like a 12 year old, so it balances out. And by the way 3 years isn't that much of a difference... My friend (who is 13) dated a 16 year old. So there for I win... *goes off and listens to Gackt*
    my friend had his ipod stolen, robbery must be ok too. again, it's not about numbers. the problem is that toph is a CHILD.

    And under most laws so is Sokka. HTF!! can you compare a 12 year old having a crush on a 15 year old to robbery of ??100-odd worth of a gadget.

    no, under most laws he's a minor. child is not a legal term and i didn't say tokka was illegal. as far as we know there aren't any laws against pedophilia in the avatar world, that doesn't make it ok.
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    joeking14

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    [QUOTE="LeonMorado"]
    joeking14 wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:

    And under most laws so is Sokka. HTF!! can you compare a 12 year old having a crush on a 15 year old to robbery of ??100-odd worth of a gadget.

    no, under most laws he's a minor. child is not a legal term and i didn't say tokka was illegal. as far as we know there aren't any laws against pedophilia in the avatar world, that doesn't make it ok.

    Child might not be the legal term in the US but it is in alot of other countriess. So it disguisting and stupid now but in one years time it is "magicly" ok?

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    LeonMorado

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    [QUOTE="joeking14"]
    LeonMorado wrote:
    joeking14 wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:

    And under most laws so is Sokka. HTF!! can you compare a 12 year old having a crush on a 15 year old to robbery of ??100-odd worth of a gadget.

    no, under most laws he's a minor. child is not a legal term and i didn't say tokka was illegal. as far as we know there aren't any laws against pedophilia in the avatar world, that doesn't make it ok.

    Child might not be the legal term in the US but it is in alot of other countriess. So it disguisting and stupid now but in one years time it is "magicly" ok?

    i didn't say it would be magically okay in a year. it would be ok if there was enough of a time skip to redesign toph's character so that she's not a child anymore.
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    joeking14

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    [QUOTE="LeonMorado"]
    joeking14 wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:
    joeking14 wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:

    And under most laws so is Sokka. HTF!! can you compare a 12 year old having a crush on a 15 year old to robbery of ??100-odd worth of a gadget.

    no, under most laws he's a minor. child is not a legal term and i didn't say tokka was illegal. as far as we know there aren't any laws against pedophilia in the avatar world, that doesn't make it ok.

    Child might not be the legal term in the US but it is in alot of other countriess. So it disguisting and stupid now but in one years time it is "magicly" ok?

    i didn't say it would be magically okay in a year. it would be ok if there was enough of a time skip to redesign toph's character so that she's not a child anymore.

    They are both children then, Zutara uses children every ship I have even heard uses children, then.

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    himmanx

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    [QUOTE="joeking14"]
    LeonMorado wrote:
    joeking14 wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:

    And under most laws so is Sokka. HTF!! can you compare a 12 year old having a crush on a 15 year old to robbery of ??100-odd worth of a gadget.

    no, under most laws he's a minor. child is not a legal term and i didn't say tokka was illegal. as far as we know there aren't any laws against pedophilia in the avatar world, that doesn't make it ok.

    Child might not be the legal term in the US but it is in alot of other countriess. So it disguisting and stupid now but in one years time it is "magicly" ok?

    Are you saying that because they're still in their teens a relationship won't work out? So are all the ships in Avatar. Sounds like you expect them to get down and dirty right after the show. In a couple of years, when they are over 20, maybe even 30, do you still think that they won't work out because they're children? Or because they are a couple of years apart? Gotta tell you, it doesn't work like that. Most relationships (mature) have an age difference in them, either the woman or man being older than the other. The greatest age difference in the major ships is 3 years and thats really nothing. Your thought that people shouldn't get together because of a couple of years of age difference is only shared by a small percentage of the population and 10$ says that Mike and Brian aren't in that group.

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    joeking14

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    himmanx wrote:
    joeking14 wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:
    joeking14 wrote:

    And under most laws so is Sokka. HTF!! can you compare a 12 year old having a crush on a 15 year old to robbery of ??100-odd worth of a gadget.

    no, under most laws he's a minor. child is not a legal term and i didn't say tokka was illegal. as far as we know there aren't any laws against pedophilia in the avatar world, that doesn't make it ok.

    Child might not be the legal term in the US but it is in alot of other countriess. So it disguisting and stupid now but in one years time it is "magicly" ok?

    Are you saying that because they're still in their teens a relationship won't work out? So are all the ships in Avatar. Sounds like you expect them to get down and dirty right after the show. In a couple of years, when they are over 20, maybe even 30, do you still think that they won't work out because they're children? Or because they are a couple of years apart? Gotta tell you, it doesn't work like that. Most relationships (mature) have an age difference in them, either the woman or man being older than the other. The greatest age difference in the major ships is 3 years and thats really nothing. Your thought that people shouldn't get together because of a couple of years of age difference is only shared by a small percentage of the population and 10$ says that Mike and Brian aren't in that group.

    Did you mean to quote me as what you seem to be trying to say is what I am saying.

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    himmanx

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    was quoting more of leonmorado.
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    Archon30

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    *sigh* So this is what a shipper war feels like.

    Actually, I believe that this would be more of a civil war, some anti-tokkarians having a minor skirmish with pro-tokkarians. ALL FOR THE ULTIMATE PRIZE - THE FINAL OUTCOME OF A CHILDREN'S SHOW MINOR CRUSH/PLOT DEVICE! THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! GRRR, HOWL, ARGH, CHARGE!

    There, there, Tokkarians, I know how much you consider age difference to be insignificant. I mean, there is a big space between my age and that of my girlfriend (I'm 20 and she is 31), but the age difference doesn't work well if it's the other way 'round(ifI were 20, and she were 9)!

    Thus, just for the heck of it, I'll join your silly little war. And for myopening move: I claim this land in the name of Sukka! Hooray for same-age couples! Down with underage tyranny! For the rights of the working class, we will topple your axis of evil! VAE VICTUS! ALEA YACTA EST!

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    [QUOTE="joeking14"]
    LeonMorado wrote:
    joeking14 wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:
    joeking14 wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:

    And under most laws so is Sokka. HTF!! can you compare a 12 year old having a crush on a 15 year old to robbery of ??100-odd worth of a gadget.

    no, under most laws he's a minor. child is not a legal term and i didn't say tokka was illegal. as far as we know there aren't any laws against pedophilia in the avatar world, that doesn't make it ok.

    Child might not be the legal term in the US but it is in alot of other countriess. So it disguisting and stupid now but in one years time it is "magicly" ok?

    i didn't say it would be magically okay in a year. it would be ok if there was enough of a time skip to redesign toph's character so that she's not a child anymore.

    They are both children then, Zutara uses children every ship I have even heard uses children, then.

    sokka's not a child. one could argue that he's a young adult, since he has completed his rite of passage and been accepted by his fellow warriors as a peer, but he's and the very least at the end of his adolescence. it should be pretty clear that regardless of numerical age the difference between childhood and adolescence is a huge one.
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    Lucarly

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    Age is such a silly thing.

    I'm 14 and my lover is 17. That's a 3 year difference.

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    joeking14

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    LeonMorado wrote:
    joeking14 wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:
    joeking14 wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:
    joeking14 wrote:

    And under most laws so is Sokka. HTF!! can you compare a 12 year old having a crush on a 15 year old to robbery of ??100-odd worth of a gadget.

    no, under most laws he's a minor. child is not a legal term and i didn't say tokka was illegal. as far as we know there aren't any laws against pedophilia in the avatar world, that doesn't make it ok.

    Child might not be the legal term in the US but it is in alot of other countriess. So it disguisting and stupid now but in one years time it is "magicly" ok?

    i didn't say it would be magically okay in a year. it would be ok if there was enough of a time skip to redesign toph's character so that she's not a child anymore.

    They are both children then, Zutara uses children every ship I have even heard uses children, then.

    sokka's not a child. one could argue that he's a young adult, since he has completed his rite of passage and been accepted by his fellow warriors as a peer, but he's and the very least at the end of his adolescence. it should be pretty clear that regardless of numerical age the difference between childhood and adolescence is a huge one.

    15 is later on time for guys to be a third of the way through puberty, 12 is a lower age for girls to be a thrid of th way through puberty, as noones talk about it, they could both have just started puberty for all we know.

    Edited on 01/12/2008 5:56am
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    Toph_kicks_butt

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    when will you people realize that a child dosen't stay a child forever. GO TOKKA!
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    kkg14

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    Toph_kicks_butt wrote:
    when will you people realize that a child dosen't stay a child forever. GO TOKKA!


    This is true. If the creators decide to do an epilogue episode (which, btw looks very possible with all the loose ends that we will invevitably be left with), they can easily fast forward a few years to when the gaang is a little older. Then Sokka and Toph won't be kids anymore, and it won't be so weird.
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    LeonMorado

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    Toph_kicks_butt wrote:
    when will you people realize that a child dosen't stay a child forever. GO TOKKA!
    you can't justify pedophilia by saying "they'll grow up eventually anyway." if they were older then whatev. but as it stands, toph: childhood. sokka: late adolescence.
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    joeking14

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    LeonMorado wrote:
    Toph_kicks_butt wrote:
    when will you people realize that a child dosen't stay a child forever. GO TOKKA!
    you can't justify pedophilia by saying "they'll grow up eventually anyway." if they were older then whatev.

    I dunno if you noticed but pedophil normal needs one to young and one to old your obviously going by US age (which does vary) but on average (by which I mean all but one or two states) Sokka is also too young. In Asian countries Toph is perfectly old enough to be in a relartionship and they wouldn't have a problem with Toph and Sokka getting together.

    LeonMorado wrote:
    but as it stands, toph: childhood. sokka: late adolescence.

    Really I just though since adolescence is basicly teenage years and Sokka is 2 years into being a teenager and 3 from being an adult that Sokka would be medium or early adolescence. When you consister that Girls normaly become adults (biologicly not legally) 2 or so year before Guys on average they are at a similar point in devolpment.

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    LeonMorado

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    joeking14 wrote:

    LeonMorado wrote:
    Toph_kicks_butt wrote:
    when will you people realize that a child dosen't stay a child forever. GO TOKKA!
    you can't justify pedophilia by saying "they'll grow up eventually anyway." if they were older then whatev.

    I dunno if you noticed but pedophil normal needs one to young and one to old your obviously going by US age (which does vary) but on average (by which I mean all but one or two states) Sokka is also too young. In Asian countries Toph is perfectly old enough to be in a relartionship and they wouldn't have a problem with Toph and Sokka getting together.

    LeonMorado wrote:
    but as it stands, toph: childhood. sokka: late adolescence.

    Really I just though since adolescence is basicly teenage years and Sokka is 2 years into being a teenager and 3 from being an adult that Sokka would be medium or early adolescence. When you consister that Girls normaly become adults (biologicly not legally) 2 or so year before Guys on average they are at a similar point in devolpment.

    adolescence is not based on age, it's a stage in psychological and physical development and "teenage years" just a convenient label that's really only used in english speaking countries.

    there's no question that toph is a child. she's still at the stage where she doesn't even know how to express her crush other than picking on sokka. sokka, on the other is considered a man by his own tribe's rules and customs, and despite being a goof, has shown that he has the emotional maturity to be in a real relationship.

    the gap isn't in age, it's in psychological and emotional development.
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    pc_fan03

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    More like Pooldude has sailed. Hahaha. I is so funny.
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