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    thewerewolfmage

    [441]Jul 17, 2008
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:
    mark426 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:

    carlsonem wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    You know, maybe Ozai sent Azula after them. I mean Zuko did kind of hurt his pride turning his sudden lightning attack right back at him. You know, just a guess...
    Why cant Ozai do anything for himself. Lets send his children to do his dirty work. Would he even mind if azula gets killed?

    Azula? Yes I think he would care. He seems to adore his daughter. In ways only a crazy dictator can.

    I don't think adore is the right word. I just think he trusts her more than he does Zuko. She is more ruthless, like Ozai. There has never really been any proof that he actually likes Azula, but it's pretty obvious that he enjoys her company more than Zukos.
    I think it's because he thinks she's stronger and won't hold back at all like Zuko would. Zuko was good, but confused.

    I might be wrong but it seemed hinted that he cared about her due to her natural skill. Zuko said something like "He said she was born lucky. He said I was lucky to be born." So either Zuko was a preemie or he saw something in Azula from the start that wasn't there with Zuko. The craziness inherited from Sozin perhaps?

    I think Ozai was referring to the fact that Azula showed exceptional skill. She has mastered using lightening, even something Zuko hasn't. It was nothing personal on any level.

    She does have skill. We can tell that. The crazy blue fire, lightning bending, and Jetpack!Azula. I think her skill ranks up there with Iroh's. But then we don't really know Ozai's skills. All we've seen so far is his lightning.

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    HereOh

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    HeroCrane wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    HereOh wrote:
    Maybe someone could help me out here, but happened to the rest of the group? They were told to hop on the extra air ship, correct? But didn't Zuko get on it? Or did Zuko just hop on one of Azula's?
    I'm kind of confused by your question, but here's what happened. Azula started attacking which obviously took everyone by surprise. They shielded themselves and Toph immediately started digging a tunnel to travel through. Appa refused to go into it, so the more important members of the gAang (Toph, Sokka, Suki, Katara, Aang, and Zuko) decided to take Appa and fly out. The rest of the gAang used the tunnel to escape. Zuko tried to distract Azula and after a huge impact during one of their fights, he fell off the air balloon and the gAang caught him on Appa. So, now the gAang is split in two.
    To answer his question: the rest of the gaang(least important members) took the airship that Zuko and Sokka stole from azula at the end of The Boiling Rock. Zuko jumped onto Azula's new airship where they proceeded to fight. ^^

    Ok, what happened to those who went in the tunnel? Katara told them to hop on the stolen ship. Now when Zuko fell and then rose back up to fight his sister, what was he standing on? Was it that ship that he had stolen or was it one of the ones that had arrived with Azula?

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    collins79

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Serbaayuu wrote:

    6. Not having to do with this episode, but the preview for Sozin's Comet--Avatar has officially un-become a kids show, as soon as Aang says "Looks like I'm going to have to kill the Fire Lord." Amazing. So glad they didn't dumb it down for the children.

    I've been waiting for the glorious day of Avatar's world wide realization. Why has it even taken this long? Avatar is not in any way a kids show and never will be. It's about serious subjects. Maybe once in an episode something silly will happen, like Sokka's love scene =p. But, things like that also have a deeper purpose. There's nothing "kiddy" about this show. Why it's aired on Nick, I have never understood. And it truly was amazing when he said he would kill the Fire Lord. Jesus, this is so epic!

    You are dead on I'm a 29 yr old college grad and this is easily one of the best pieces of cinematic art I have ever seen. Not only that my 50 yr old mother in FL. is an Avatard as well.

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    thewerewolfmage

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    HereOh wrote:

    HeroCrane wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    HereOh wrote:
    Maybe someone could help me out here, but happened to the rest of the group? They were told to hop on the extra air ship, correct? But didn't Zuko get on it? Or did Zuko just hop on one of Azula's?
    I'm kind of confused by your question, but here's what happened. Azula started attacking which obviously took everyone by surprise. They shielded themselves and Toph immediately started digging a tunnel to travel through. Appa refused to go into it, so the more important members of the gAang (Toph, Sokka, Suki, Katara, Aang, and Zuko) decided to take Appa and fly out. The rest of the gAang used the tunnel to escape. Zuko tried to distract Azula and after a huge impact during one of their fights, he fell off the air balloon and the gAang caught him on Appa. So, now the gAang is split in two.
    To answer his question: the rest of the gaang(least important members) took the airship that Zuko and Sokka stole from azula at the end of The Boiling Rock. Zuko jumped onto Azula's new airship where they proceeded to fight. ^^

    Ok, what happened to those who went in the tunnel? Katara told them to hop on the stolen ship. Now when Zuko fell and then rose back up to fight his sister, what was he standing on? Was it that ship that he had stolen or was it one of the ones that had arrived with Azula?

    I don't think that was made clear. But I would assume that if the others saw him falling they'd pick him up.

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    AlissaH55

    [445]Jul 17, 2008
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    Yeah...I really hate to change the topic...but did anyone see how stunned Zuko looked when Katara was bloodbending the one guy? He was all wide-eyed xD, what a classic lol.
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    HereOh

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    thewerewolfmage wrote:
    HereOh wrote:

    HeroCrane wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    HereOh wrote:
    Maybe someone could help me out here, but happened to the rest of the group? They were told to hop on the extra air ship, correct? But didn't Zuko get on it? Or did Zuko just hop on one of Azula's?
    I'm kind of confused by your question, but here's what happened. Azula started attacking which obviously took everyone by surprise. They shielded themselves and Toph immediately started digging a tunnel to travel through. Appa refused to go into it, so the more important members of the gAang (Toph, Sokka, Suki, Katara, Aang, and Zuko) decided to take Appa and fly out. The rest of the gAang used the tunnel to escape. Zuko tried to distract Azula and after a huge impact during one of their fights, he fell off the air balloon and the gAang caught him on Appa. So, now the gAang is split in two.
    To answer his question: the rest of the gaang(least important members) took the airship that Zuko and Sokka stole from azula at the end of The Boiling Rock. Zuko jumped onto Azula's new airship where they proceeded to fight. ^^

    Ok, what happened to those who went in the tunnel? Katara told them to hop on the stolen ship. Now when Zuko fell and then rose back up to fight his sister, what was he standing on? Was it that ship that he had stolen or was it one of the ones that had arrived with Azula?

    I don't think that was made clear. But I would assume that if the others saw him falling they'd pick him up.

    And then where did they go?!

    Damn, things like this bug me too much. Haha, sorry if I'm coming off annoying to anyone!

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    isabelwhatx

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    collins79 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    Serbaayuu wrote:

    6. Not having to do with this episode, but the preview for Sozin's Comet--Avatar has officially un-become a kids show, as soon as Aang says "Looks like I'm going to have to kill the Fire Lord." Amazing. So glad they didn't dumb it down for the children.

    I've been waiting for the glorious day of Avatar's world wide realization. Why has it even taken this long? Avatar is not in any way a kids show and never will be. It's about serious subjects. Maybe once in an episode something silly will happen, like Sokka's love scene =p. But, things like that also have a deeper purpose. There's nothing "kiddy" about this show. Why it's aired on Nick, I have never understood. And it truly was amazing when he said he would kill the Fire Lord. Jesus, this is so epic!

    You are dead on I'm a 29 yr old college grad and this is easily one of the best pieces of cinematic art I have ever seen. Not only that my 50 yr old mother in FL. is an Avatard as well.


    Ahahaha. It's truly amazing, isn't it?
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    Eman5805

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    isabelwhatx wrote:

    She wouldn't have wasted her time with Zuko. She also wouldn't have admitted she was there to kill Zuko if she wasn't. Zuko doesn't really lie, per say. She just avoids the truth. Plus, Zuko can be exterminated anytime. Ozai only tried to kill Zuko because he was right there. Aang is much more important than Zuko. With Aang so close, I'm sure he would've been the prime target instead of Zuko. Ozai isn't an idiot. He knows Aang is a threat.


    Are you arguming with me or agreeing aggressively, because you're basically repeating me. I said it wasn't just Zuko all those ships were after. For Azula, getting the Avatar is the goal, eliminating Zuko is the icing on the cake.
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    isabelwhatx

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    HereOh wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:
    HereOh wrote:

    HeroCrane wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    HereOh wrote:
    Maybe someone could help me out here, but happened to the rest of the group? They were told to hop on the extra air ship, correct? But didn't Zuko get on it? Or did Zuko just hop on one of Azula's?
    I'm kind of confused by your question, but here's what happened. Azula started attacking which obviously took everyone by surprise. They shielded themselves and Toph immediately started digging a tunnel to travel through. Appa refused to go into it, so the more important members of the gAang (Toph, Sokka, Suki, Katara, Aang, and Zuko) decided to take Appa and fly out. The rest of the gAang used the tunnel to escape. Zuko tried to distract Azula and after a huge impact during one of their fights, he fell off the air balloon and the gAang caught him on Appa. So, now the gAang is split in two.
    To answer his question: the rest of the gaang(least important members) took the airship that Zuko and Sokka stole from azula at the end of The Boiling Rock. Zuko jumped onto Azula's new airship where they proceeded to fight. ^^

    Ok, what happened to those who went in the tunnel? Katara told them to hop on the stolen ship. Now when Zuko fell and then rose back up to fight his sister, what was he standing on? Was it that ship that he had stolen or was it one of the ones that had arrived with Azula?

    I don't think that was made clear. But I would assume that if the others saw him falling they'd pick him up.

    And then where did they go?!

    Damn, things like this bug me too much. Haha, sorry if I'm coming off annoying to anyone!


    It'll all probably be cleared up tomorrow =] It's called a cliff hanger. It's done to make people like you anxious beyond belief. We have no idea what happened to them after they disappeared.
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    funnyman1278

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    So is anybody mad about how the creators arent doing ANYTHING with Toph?!
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    mark426

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    AlissaH55 wrote:
    Yeah...I really hate to change the topic...but did anyone see how stunned Zuko looked when Katara was bloodbending the one guy? He was all wide-eyed xD, what a classic lol.
    He didn't know she could do that. The last time bloodbended was the Puppetmaster, when he wasn't around.
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    collins79

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    thewerewolfmage wrote:
    HereOh wrote:

    HeroCrane wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    HereOh wrote:
    Maybe someone could help me out here, but happened to the rest of the group? They were told to hop on the extra air ship, correct? But didn't Zuko get on it? Or did Zuko just hop on one of Azula's?
    I'm kind of confused by your question, but here's what happened. Azula started attacking which obviously took everyone by surprise. They shielded themselves and Toph immediately started digging a tunnel to travel through. Appa refused to go into it, so the more important members of the gAang (Toph, Sokka, Suki, Katara, Aang, and Zuko) decided to take Appa and fly out. The rest of the gAang used the tunnel to escape. Zuko tried to distract Azula and after a huge impact during one of their fights, he fell off the air balloon and the gAang caught him on Appa. So, now the gAang is split in two.
    To answer his question: the rest of the gaang(least important members) took the airship that Zuko and Sokka stole from azula at the end of The Boiling Rock. Zuko jumped onto Azula's new airship where they proceeded to fight. ^^

    Ok, what happened to those who went in the tunnel? Katara told them to hop on the stolen ship. Now when Zuko fell and then rose back up to fight his sister, what was he standing on? Was it that ship that he had stolen or was it one of the ones that had arrived with Azula?

    I don't think that was made clear. But I would assume that if the others saw him falling they'd pick him up.

    It was another enemy air ship / who knows what happened to the lilgaang Im sure we'll find out in EIP

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    isabelwhatx

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    Eman5805 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:

    She wouldn't have wasted her time with Zuko. She also wouldn't have admitted she was there to kill Zuko if she wasn't. Zuko doesn't really lie, per say. She just avoids the truth. Plus, Zuko can be exterminated anytime. Ozai only tried to kill Zuko because he was right there. Aang is much more important than Zuko. With Aang so close, I'm sure he would've been the prime target instead of Zuko. Ozai isn't an idiot. He knows Aang is a threat.


    Are you arguming with me or agreeing aggressively, because you're basically repeating me. I said it wasn't just Zuko all those ships were after. For Azula, getting the Avatar is the goal, eliminating Zuko is the icing on the cake.

    Lmao. Sorry if I came off aggressive. I guess I read your posts wrong. But sorry if I came off harsh. Didn't mean to =]But I do think it was just Zuko all those ships were after. I think this attack was so purely Azula it hurts.
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    mark426

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    funnyman1278 wrote:
    So is anybody mad about how the creators arent doing ANYTHING with Toph?!
    They didn't have much of a choice. They already planned this to be a Katara and Zuko centric episode.
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    isabelwhatx

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    mark426 wrote:
    AlissaH55 wrote:
    Yeah...I really hate to change the topic...but did anyone see how stunned Zuko looked when Katara was bloodbending the one guy? He was all wide-eyed xD, what a classic lol.
    He didn't know she could do that. The last time bloodbended was the Puppetmaster, when he wasn't around.

    I saw that =D I wish they would've explored the bloodbending more in that episode. I hope Zuko confronts her later. It would be quite interesting to hear Katara's take on bloodbending now.
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    HereOh

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    HereOh wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:
    HereOh wrote:

    HeroCrane wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    HereOh wrote:
    Maybe someone could help me out here, but happened to the rest of the group? They were told to hop on the extra air ship, correct? But didn't Zuko get on it? Or did Zuko just hop on one of Azula's?
    I'm kind of confused by your question, but here's what happened. Azula started attacking which obviously took everyone by surprise. They shielded themselves and Toph immediately started digging a tunnel to travel through. Appa refused to go into it, so the more important members of the gAang (Toph, Sokka, Suki, Katara, Aang, and Zuko) decided to take Appa and fly out. The rest of the gAang used the tunnel to escape. Zuko tried to distract Azula and after a huge impact during one of their fights, he fell off the air balloon and the gAang caught him on Appa. So, now the gAang is split in two.
    To answer his question: the rest of the gaang(least important members) took the airship that Zuko and Sokka stole from azula at the end of The Boiling Rock. Zuko jumped onto Azula's new airship where they proceeded to fight. ^^

    Ok, what happened to those who went in the tunnel? Katara told them to hop on the stolen ship. Now when Zuko fell and then rose back up to fight his sister, what was he standing on? Was it that ship that he had stolen or was it one of the ones that had arrived with Azula?

    I don't think that was made clear. But I would assume that if the others saw him falling they'd pick him up.

    And then where did they go?!

    Damn, things like this bug me too much. Haha, sorry if I'm coming off annoying to anyone!

    Curse your cliffhangers Now I'm amped for an episode of Avatar that I'm gonna have to miss and watch on youtube.

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    suss2it

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    I just saw this episode and I think it was a pretty good episode, the emotions were good the humour was good, and the innuendo. Kinda of a let down though, I was hoping Katara would beat up on the man a little bit more, but still a pretty good episode.

    More Azula would've been great, but an episode in only so long. And it's about time they got rid of the tag alongs.

    I believe this is where Aang will start doubting himself and questioning what he has to do against Ozai.
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    funnyman1278

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    mark426 wrote:
    funnyman1278 wrote:
    So is anybody mad about how the creators arent doing ANYTHING with Toph?!
    They didn't have much of a choice. They already planned this to be a Katara and Zuko centric episode.

    Well I dont really mean just this episode... EVERY episode of Book 3!

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    JJyanks24

    [459]Jul 17, 2008
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    Great episode

    Katara was acting just like Aang when Appa was kidnapped

    But instead they swtich roles

    The scene with Sokka in the tent was funny

    If they had something like two teens almost hooking up in a tent by themselves they wouldn't have a problem with Aang killing the firelord

    The thing Zuko was nice too bad Katara went on like Jet

    And Azula, you would think from all her minor defeats to wait to attack at the comet arrival instead of risking her life

    Great Episode

    10 out of 10

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    isabelwhatx

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    thewerewolfmage wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:
    mark426 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    thewerewolfmage wrote:

    carlsonem wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    You know, maybe Ozai sent Azula after them. I mean Zuko did kind of hurt his pride turning his sudden lightning attack right back at him. You know, just a guess...
    Why cant Ozai do anything for himself. Lets send his children to do his dirty work. Would he even mind if azula gets killed?

    Azula? Yes I think he would care. He seems to adore his daughter. In ways only a crazy dictator can.

    I don't think adore is the right word. I just think he trusts her more than he does Zuko. She is more ruthless, like Ozai. There has never really been any proof that he actually likes Azula, but it's pretty obvious that he enjoys her company more than Zukos.
    I think it's because he thinks she's stronger and won't hold back at all like Zuko would. Zuko was good, but confused.

    I might be wrong but it seemed hinted that he cared about her due to her natural skill. Zuko said something like "He said she was born lucky. He said I was lucky to be born." So either Zuko was a preemie or he saw something in Azula from the start that wasn't there with Zuko. The craziness inherited from Sozin perhaps?

    I think Ozai was referring to the fact that Azula showed exceptional skill. She has mastered using lightening, even something Zuko hasn't. It was nothing personal on any level.

    She does have skill. We can tell that. The crazy blue fire, lightning bending, and Jetpack!Azula. I think her skill ranks up there with Iroh's. But then we don't really know Ozai's skills. All we've seen so far is his lightning.

    And the fact that he keeps a wall of firing surrounding him 24/7 =p He's got to be really powerful, or else Aang wouldn't be scared. Plus, the commercials show him epically firebending. I'd say he's pretty good =]
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