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    ElysianGem

    [2421]Jun 22, 2008
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    dantedones wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    It seems a lot of people don't like Zutara, I wonder why?
    I would be a fan of Zutara if there was no such thing as Aang. But there is so..I'm an avid Kataagner. I just can't imagine a single situation where Katara choosing Zuko over Aang wouldn't completely and utterly leave Aang heartbroken. He doesnt deserve that after everything he has been through. (yes yes, zuko has been through much too, but zuko has Mai. Why should he leave her to be heartbroken, and Katara leave Aang heartbroken, just for them to be together? not logical to me.) There is much much more to it than that for me as well, (such as Kataang makes me squee), but I'm feeling lazyyy.
    Aang can go die for all I care, lol, one of the reasons I didn't like Kataang is because of Aang in season 1, he was just too much of a dumbass I mean look at the deserter look at what happended with Katara, Jeong Jeong told him that he was not ready, but no Airhead had to go and force him to teach him and then he started playing with the damn fire (Don't play with fire, you will get burned) and he burned Katara.
    He's grown up since then!! He's matured alot since season 1, just like all of the other characters. "The Guru" shows that he has learned from his mistakes and to not be, in your words, a dumbass. I also don't understand how you could not care if he died...since he is THE main character of the show...why does it matter what happens in the finale then?.. And I'm not trying to sound rude, lol, just like i said...i dont understand that at all.
    I know he matured, I'm just saying that's why I didn't ship Kataang in season 1 and If he has to die to beat Ozai and save the world, I say he could start preparing himself to meet God at the pearly gates

    You might as well not ship anything with Katara in it either, since Katara has made her own selfish mistakes too. Ex: she stole the waterbending scroll, was mean to Aang because she was jealous of his waterbending, and she sneaked off to practice waterbending that risked the saftey of the whole group. Seriously, all the characters had flaws about them because they are very human characters. All the characters also learn from their mistakes in the show. That is what makes the show so great.

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    speechless8582

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    dantedones wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    It seems a lot of people don't like Zutara, I wonder why?

    I would be a fan of Zutara if there was no such thing as Aang. But there is so..I'm an avid Kataagner. I just can't imagine a single situation where Katara choosing Zuko over Aang wouldn't completely and utterly leave Aang heartbroken. He doesnt deserve that after everything he has been through. (yes yes, zuko has been through much too, but zuko has Mai. Why should he leave her to be heartbroken, and Katara leave Aang heartbroken, just for them to be together? not logical to me.)

    There is much much more to it than that for me as well, (such as Kataang makes me squee), but I'm feeling lazyyy.
    Aang can go die for all I care, lol, one of the reasons I didn't like Kataang is because of Aang in season 1, he was just too much of a dumbass I mean look at the deserter look at what happended with Katara, Jeong Jeong told him that he was not ready, but no Airhead had to go and force him to teach him and then he started playing with the damn fire (Don't play with fire, you will get burned) and he burned Katara.

    He's grown up since then!! He's matured alot since season 1, just like all of the other characters. "The Guru" shows that he has learned from his mistakes and to not be, in your words, a dumbass.

    I also don't understand how you could not care if he died...since he is THE main character of the show...why does it matter what happens in the finale then?..

    And I'm not trying to sound rude, lol, just like i said...i dont understand that at all.
    I know he matured, I'm just saying that's why I didn't ship Kataang in season 1 and If he has to die to beat Ozai and save the world, I say he could start preparing himself to meet God at the pearly gates


    That sounds so brutal...

    Well I for one hope he doesnt die.
    I thinks the reason I wouldn't care if he died is because I can keep a grudge against someone and I have a grudge against him because I hated him in season 1 and I guess I still do, I mean when he lost appa and got all pissed off at everyone, if I was in Gaang at that time, I would knock some sense into him


    Aang is supposed to be with Appa forever, they are lifelong companions. Of course he is going to be all pissed off when someone stole him.

    Sounds to me like you need to let your grudges flow down the river. Forgotten. XD
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    dantedones

    [2423]Jun 22, 2008
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    speechless8582 wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    It seems a lot of people don't like Zutara, I wonder why?

    I would be a fan of Zutara if there was no such thing as Aang. But there is so..I'm an avid Kataagner. I just can't imagine a single situation where Katara choosing Zuko over Aang wouldn't completely and utterly leave Aang heartbroken. He doesnt deserve that after everything he has been through. (yes yes, zuko has been through much too, but zuko has Mai. Why should he leave her to be heartbroken, and Katara leave Aang heartbroken, just for them to be together? not logical to me.)

    There is much much more to it than that for me as well, (such as Kataang makes me squee), but I'm feeling lazyyy.
    Aang can go die for all I care, lol, one of the reasons I didn't like Kataang is because of Aang in season 1, he was just too much of a dumbass I mean look at the deserter look at what happended with Katara, Jeong Jeong told him that he was not ready, but no Airhead had to go and force him to teach him and then he started playing with the damn fire (Don't play with fire, you will get burned) and he burned Katara.

    He's grown up since then!! He's matured alot since season 1, just like all of the other characters. "The Guru" shows that he has learned from his mistakes and to not be, in your words, a dumbass.

    I also don't understand how you could not care if he died...since he is THE main character of the show...why does it matter what happens in the finale then?..

    And I'm not trying to sound rude, lol, just like i said...i dont understand that at all.
    I know he matured, I'm just saying that's why I didn't ship Kataang in season 1 and If he has to die to beat Ozai and save the world, I say he could start preparing himself to meet God at the pearly gates


    That sounds so brutal...

    Well I for one hope he doesnt die.
    I thinks the reason I wouldn't care if he died is because I can keep a grudge against someone and I have a grudge against him because I hated him in season 1 and I guess I still do, I mean when he lost appa and got all pissed off at everyone, if I was in Gaang at that time, I would knock some sense into him


    Aang is supposed to be with Appa forever, they are lifelong companions. Of course he is going to be all pissed off when someone stole him.

    Sounds to me like you need to let your grudges flow down the river. Forgotten. XD
    yeah, I need to drink some cactus juice
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    ElysianGem

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    speechless8582 wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    It seems a lot of people don't like Zutara, I wonder why?
    I would be a fan of Zutara if there was no such thing as Aang. But there is so..I'm an avid Kataagner. I just can't imagine a single situation where Katara choosing Zuko over Aang wouldn't completely and utterly leave Aang heartbroken. He doesnt deserve that after everything he has been through. (yes yes, zuko has been through much too, but zuko has Mai. Why should he leave her to be heartbroken, and Katara leave Aang heartbroken, just for them to be together? not logical to me.) There is much much more to it than that for me as well, (such as Kataang makes me squee), but I'm feeling lazyyy.
    Aang can go die for all I care, lol, one of the reasons I didn't like Kataang is because of Aang in season 1, he was just too much of a dumbass I mean look at the deserter look at what happended with Katara, Jeong Jeong told him that he was not ready, but no Airhead had to go and force him to teach him and then he started playing with the damn fire (Don't play with fire, you will get burned) and he burned Katara.
    He's grown up since then!! He's matured alot since season 1, just like all of the other characters. "The Guru" shows that he has learned from his mistakes and to not be, in your words, a dumbass. I also don't understand how you could not care if he died...since he is THE main character of the show...why does it matter what happens in the finale then?.. And I'm not trying to sound rude, lol, just like i said...i dont understand that at all.
    I know he matured, I'm just saying that's why I didn't ship Kataang in season 1 and If he has to die to beat Ozai and save the world, I say he could start preparing himself to meet God at the pearly gates
    That sounds so brutal... Well I for one hope he doesnt die.
    I thinks the reason I wouldn't care if he died is because I can keep a grudge against someone and I have a grudge against him because I hated him in season 1 and I guess I still do, I mean when he lost appa and got all pissed off at everyone, if I was in Gaang at that time, I would knock some sense into him
    Aang is supposed to be with Appa forever, they are lifelong companions. Of course he is going to be all pissed off when someone stole him. Sounds to me like you need to let your grudges flow down the river. Forgotten. XD

    Plus, Appa and momo are what remains from Aang's race. Their are all what's left of his 'airbending family.'

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    ElysianGem wrote:

    Plus, Appa and momo are what remains from Aang's race. Their are all what's left of his 'airbending family.'

    I think that we are all forgetting that these are fictional characters. Therefore, it doesn't matter if they live or die.

    Also, Aang has not matured at all. Remember this little bit from WAT:

    Katara: Aang, we need to make plans about how to save the world.

    Aang: Screw that, watch this loop. Now, I'll show you a giant board game.

    If it wasn't for Zuko showing up when he did, the episode might as well have been called "Why Aang Needs A Diaper Change and A B*tch-slap."

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    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    ElysianGem wrote:

    Plus, Appa and momo are what remains from Aang's race. Their are all what's left of his 'airbending family.'

    I think that we are all forgetting that these are fictional characters. Therefore, it doesn't matter if they live or die.

    Also, Aang has not matured at all. Remember this little bit from WAT:

    Katara: Aang, we need to make plans about how to save the world.

    Aang: Screw that, watch this loop. Now, I'll show you a giant board game.

    If it wasn't for Zuko showing up when he did, the episode might as well have been called "Why Aang Needs A Diaper Change and A B*tch-slap."

    right, I mean they are just pieces of paper, not real people
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    ElysianGem

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    dantedones wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    ElysianGem wrote:

    Plus, Appa and momo are what remains from Aang's race. Their are all what's left of his 'airbending family.'

    I think that we are all forgetting that these are fictional characters. Therefore, it doesn't matter if they live or die.

    Also, Aang has not matured at all. Remember this little bit from WAT:

    Katara: Aang, we need to make plans about how to save the world.

    Aang: Screw that, watch this loop. Now, I'll show you a giant board game.

    If it wasn't for Zuko showing up when he did, the episode might as well have been called "Why Aang Needs A Diaper Change and A B*tch-slap."

    right, I mean they are just pieces of paper, not real people

    So you think this is a great show, yet you also say that the characters are just pieces of paper? I'm a little confused about your logic. Aang was trying to avoid hurting Katara again. That's why he didn't want to firebend. He got over it in the same episode, though.

    Edited on 06/22/2008 2:39pm
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    ElysianGem wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    ElysianGem wrote:

    Plus, Appa and momo are what remains from Aang's race. Their are all what's left of his 'airbending family.'

    I think that we are all forgetting that these are fictional characters. Therefore, it doesn't matter if they live or die.

    Also, Aang has not matured at all. Remember this little bit from WAT:

    Katara: Aang, we need to make plans about how to save the world.

    Aang: Screw that, watch this loop. Now, I'll show you a giant board game.

    If it wasn't for Zuko showing up when he did, the episode might as well have been called "Why Aang Needs A Diaper Change and A B*tch-slap."

    right, I mean they are just pieces of paper, not real people

    So you think this is a great show, yet you also say that the characters are just pieces of paper? I'm a little confused about your logic. Aang was trying to avoid hurting Katara again. That's why he didn't want to firebend. He got over it in the same episode, though.

    It's a great show when you let yourself believe that the characters actually exist. However, you can't forget that they are just pieces of paper. If you do, you risk going crazy.

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    ElysianGem

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    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    ElysianGem wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    ElysianGem wrote:

    Plus, Appa and momo are what remains from Aang's race. Their are all what's left of his 'airbending family.'

    I think that we are all forgetting that these are fictional characters. Therefore, it doesn't matter if they live or die.

    Also, Aang has not matured at all. Remember this little bit from WAT:

    Katara: Aang, we need to make plans about how to save the world.

    Aang: Screw that, watch this loop. Now, I'll show you a giant board game.

    If it wasn't for Zuko showing up when he did, the episode might as well have been called "Why Aang Needs A Diaper Change and A B*tch-slap."

    right, I mean they are just pieces of paper, not real people

    So you think this is a great show, yet you also say that the characters are just pieces of paper? I'm a little confused about your logic. Aang was trying to avoid hurting Katara again. That's why he didn't want to firebend. He got over it in the same episode, though.

    It's a great show when you let yourself believe that the characters actually exist. However, you can't forget that they are just pieces of paper. If you do, you risk going crazy.

    Yes, but there is nothing wrong with analysing characters . All I'm saying is that all the characters make mistakes and learn valuable lessons from them.

    Edited on 06/22/2008 2:56pm
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    bag2218

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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    bendthisfire wrote:
    SilverDragonfan wrote:
    Zutara lost! its over! lol lol lol lol Kataang will happen in our minds but not on tv!
    why wont it happen on tv?
    Because that person is so exicted and feels the need to pay out zutara/zutarians so much that they mix up crucial words. Believe what you will, but Zutara will happen

    No it wont. Katara and Zuko are just gonna be friends and Zuko's gonna be with tht anoying little emo chick tht makes goths look like cheerleaders. Poor Zuko

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    ElysianGem wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    ElysianGem wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    ElysianGem wrote:

    Plus, Appa and momo are what remains from Aang's race. Their are all what's left of his 'airbending family.'

    I think that we are all forgetting that these are fictional characters. Therefore, it doesn't matter if they live or die.

    Also, Aang has not matured at all. Remember this little bit from WAT:

    Katara: Aang, we need to make plans about how to save the world.

    Aang: Screw that, watch this loop. Now, I'll show you a giant board game.

    If it wasn't for Zuko showing up when he did, the episode might as well have been called "Why Aang Needs A Diaper Change and A B*tch-slap."

    right, I mean they are just pieces of paper, not real people

    So you think this is a great show, yet you also say that the characters are just pieces of paper? I'm a little confused about your logic. Aang was trying to avoid hurting Katara again. That's why he didn't want to firebend. He got over it in the same episode, though.

    It's a great show when you let yourself believe that the characters actually exist. However, you can't forget that they are just pieces of paper. If you do, you risk going crazy.

    Yes, but there is nothing wrong with analysing characters . All I'm saying is that all the characters make mistakes and learn valuable lessons from them.

    right, but not all characters are peices of paper, but in this case they are
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    ElysianGem

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    dantedones wrote:
    ElysianGem wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    ElysianGem wrote:
    dantedones wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    ElysianGem wrote:

    Plus, Appa and momo are what remains from Aang's race. Their are all what's left of his 'airbending family.'

    I think that we are all forgetting that these are fictional characters. Therefore, it doesn't matter if they live or die.

    Also, Aang has not matured at all. Remember this little bit from WAT:

    Katara: Aang, we need to make plans about how to save the world.

    Aang: Screw that, watch this loop. Now, I'll show you a giant board game.

    If it wasn't for Zuko showing up when he did, the episode might as well have been called "Why Aang Needs A Diaper Change and A B*tch-slap."

    right, I mean they are just pieces of paper, not real people

    So you think this is a great show, yet you also say that the characters are just pieces of paper? I'm a little confused about your logic. Aang was trying to avoid hurting Katara again. That's why he didn't want to firebend. He got over it in the same episode, though.

    It's a great show when you let yourself believe that the characters actually exist. However, you can't forget that they are just pieces of paper. If you do, you risk going crazy.

    Yes, but there is nothing wrong with analysing characters . All I'm saying is that all the characters make mistakes and learn valuable lessons from them.

    right, but not all characters are peices of paper, but in this case they are

    So they're peices of paper just for the sake of your side of the arguement, I see .

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    AnimeAngel90

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    ElysianGem wrote:
    BlindWatcher400 wrote:

    Zutara is awesome, pure and simple.

    It crosses genres. You do any sort of fanfiction with Zutara, with any sort of demographic.

    With Kataang, it's just the fangirl. All it is is fuff and boring love-dovey bull.

    That kind of thing doesn't exist in real life, cept among pre-teens. And we all know how long the pre-teen relationship lasts.

    Zutara is more mature, more thoughtful, and a hell of alot smarter than Kataang.

    If you say that Kataang is immature, I'll have to disagree. There were many moments where they comfort and/or learn from each other. They learn to listen, care, and give feedback to each other. I don't see anything immature about that. Their relationship has been progressing ever since the 1st episode. Zuko and Katara have just started working with each other and even now, their interactions are not healthy. I'm pretty sure they will become great friends in due time, but it hasn't been as long as Kataang has been progressing. You can't deny the fact that Zutara is also a 'fangirl' ship. I see people go bat-crazy over any ship. I'd like to hear your examples that show that Zutara is a 'mature' ship, besides their age.

    Actually, I disagree with your 2nd statement. Aang is comforted and learns from Katara. But Aang has nothing to offer Katara, except being her hope for the saving of the world, which isn't a romantic offer (he gives that to everyone). Aang can offer a loving relationship to Katara, but as of this point in the series, he offers nothing else to Katara. She doesn't learn from him, she isn't comforted by him....kataang is a give-give relationship from Katara's side, but Aang gives nothing back.

    For example, when Katara mentions her mother. Aang blows her off, and she never speaks about it to him again. Obviously she needs to talk about it - she tells Haru, Jet, and even Zuko, for crying out loud. She needed comfort, but Aang couldn't give it to her. she went to complete strangers, and left herself open to them. She made herself vulnerable trying to get comfort for something that Aang should be able to provide comfort for. But he doesn't. Katara gives and gives to Aang, but he gives nothing back.

    That's how I see Kataang, anyway. Maybe there's some evidence of Aang giving Katara something (comfort, understanding, teaching her something), but its nowhere near the scale that Katara gives to him. The only person on par with Katara in a give-take relationship is Zuko, because their interaction has been limited. he offered comfort about her mother, she offered comfort about his scar. Yes, he then betrayed her, but Zuko remains the only person in the group who's given something important back to Katara. Thus how their relationship is mature - its actually a give/take relationship, unlike most other relationships in the show (its also mature due to the themes of forgiveness etc, but thats not my point here, lol). Everyone else in the gaang (and practically the world) has benefited from her (Sokka, Aang, Toph, etc), but they never give back. They all seem to take her for granted.

    And now, because I believe I'm repeating myself way too much here, I'll stop there

    Edited on 06/22/2008 5:36pm
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    dantedones

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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    ElysianGem wrote:
    BlindWatcher400 wrote:

    Zutara is awesome, pure and simple.

    It crosses genres. You do any sort of fanfiction with Zutara, with any sort of demographic.

    With Kataang, it's just the fangirl. All it is is fuff and boring love-dovey bull.

    That kind of thing doesn't exist in real life, cept among pre-teens. And we all know how long the pre-teen relationship lasts.

    Zutara is more mature, more thoughtful, and a hell of alot smarter than Kataang.

    If you say that Kataang is immature, I'll have to disagree. There were many moments where they comfort and/or learn from each other. They learn to listen, care, and give feedback to each other. I don't see anything immature about that. Their relationship has been progressing ever since the 1st episode. Zuko and Katara have just started working with each other and even now, their interactions are not healthy. I'm pretty sure they will become great friends in due time, but it hasn't been as long as Kataang has been progressing. You can't deny the fact that Zutara is also a 'fangirl' ship. I see people go bat-crazy over any ship. I'd like to hear your examples that show that Zutara is a 'mature' ship, besides their age.

    Actually, I disagree with your 2nd statement. Aang is comforted and learns from Katara. But Aang has nothing to offer Katara, except being her hope for the saving of the world, which isn't a romantic offer (he gives that to everyone). Aang can offer a loving relationship to Katara, but as of this point in the series, he offers nothing else to Katara. She doesn't learn from him, she isn't comforted by him....kataang is a give-give relationship from Katara's side, but Aang gives nothing back.

    For example, when Katara mentions her mother. Aang blows her off, and she never speaks about it to him again. Obviously she needs to talk about it - she tells Haru, Jet, and even Zuko, for crying out loud. She needed comfort, but Aang couldn't give it to her. she went to complete strangers, and left herself open to them. She made herself vulnerable trying to get comfort for something that Aang should be able to provide comfort for. But he doesn't. Katara gives and gives to Aang, but he gives nothing back.

    That's how I see Kataang, anyway. Maybe there's some evidence of Aang giving Katara something (comfort, understanding, teaching her something), but its nowhere near the scale that Katara gives to him. The only person on par with Katara in a give-take relationship is Zuko, because their interaction has been limited. he offered comfort about her mother, she offered comfort about his scar. Yes, he then betrayed her, but Zuko remains the only person in the group who's given something back to Katara. Thus how their relationship is mature - its actually a give/take relationship, unlike most other relationships in the show (its also mature due to the themes of forgiveness etc, but thats not my point here, lol). Everyone else in the gaang (and practically the world) has benefited from her (Sokka, Aang, Toph, etc), but they never give back. They all seem to take her for granted.

    And now, because I believe I'm repeating myself way too much here, I'll stop there
    I guess we can all agree with that
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    AllKnowingBeing

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    Kataang pwns.

    Zutara phails.

    You can't beat that logic.

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    But how Kataang pwn? What is so great about Kataang besides it being canon?

    kataang is a give-give relationship. Kataang adds very little to the plot, because its been coming since the very beginning. There's no drama with kataang, except for Aang having to let her go, but if it ends in kataang anyway there was no point to that drama. Drama needs to be on both sides - so far we've only seen drama from Aang (and nothing from katara), and his drama is apparently overcome in a second or two if it ends up kataang (and he goes AS anyway).

    Yes, Kataang is adorable and fluffy, but thats all it is. Its not epic, its not dramatic, its not unexpected - its katara giving aang everything and him just being in love with her. Thats all it really is, at least to me.

    Kataang wouldnt' work in the long run, because no relationship can where one person gives everything. Relationships need to be equal - both people helping and loving each other - otherwise they don't work. And Kataang isn't equal. Its sweet, and I do actually like Kataang, but I just can't see it working.
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    ElysianGem

    [2437]Jun 22, 2008
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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    But how Kataang pwn? What is so great about Kataang besides it being canon? kataang is a give-give relationship. Kataang adds very little to the plot, because its been coming since the very beginning. There's no drama with kataang, except for Aang having to let her go, but if it ends in kataang anyway there was no point to that drama. Drama needs to be on both sides - so far we've only seen drama from Aang (and nothing from katara), and his drama is apparently overcome in a second or two if it ends up kataang (and he goes AS anyway). Yes, Kataang is adorable and fluffy, but thats all it is. Its not epic, its not dramatic, its not unexpected - its katara giving aang everything and him just being in love with her. Thats all it really is, at least to me. Kataang wouldnt' work in the long run, because no relationship can where one person gives everything. Relationships need to be equal - both people helping and loving each other - otherwise they don't work. And Kataang isn't equal. Its sweet, and I do actually like Kataang, but I just can't see it working.

    There are many times where Aang gives back to Katara. In the first episode, Aang is showing Katara how to have fun and embrace what is left of her childhood when he penguin-sleds with her. When Katara loses her necklace, he handmakes another one for her and then brings back her original necklace. In the Cave of Two Lovers, he saves her from falling rocks and even though he makes a dumb comment (Why would I kiss you?), they still try to make up for it. At the end of the episode they realise that their teamwork had led them out of the cave. She even blushes when she hears the 'Cave of Two Lovers' song. After Aang had burned Katara, he kept avoiding the fact that he had to learn it because he was afraid of hurting her again. When Aang encourages Katara to dance with him, she grows confident and has a fun time with him.

    And that's all I can think of right now, lol. Where was it that Aang brushed Katara off about her mother? I don't remember that anywhere .

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    AnimeAngel90

    [2438]Jun 22, 2008
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    Southern Air Temple maybe? I dunno, I think it was towards the beginning of the series.

    And yeah, Aang can help Katara out by saving her and trying to get her to have fun, but if you noticed the Runaway, clearly that lesson didn't stick. Katara has a lasting impact on Aang, but he doesn't seem to affect her as much. Mostly I just meant the understanding thing - Katara's always offering comfort and support to everyone else, but Zuko's the only one who's ever comforted her (and her father of course). I dunno, I just don't see a relationship working where Katara doesn't go to Aang for comfort - yes, I know she tries to be strong for him because he's got so many problems being the avatar and all, but she should still be able to receive comfort from him. but no, their relationship is all about Aang - what katara gives Aang, Aang's feelings, Aang's troubles.....yes, Katara receives some benefit from it, but its mostly about Aang.
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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    Southern Air Temple maybe? I dunno, I think it was towards the beginning of the series. And yeah, Aang can help Katara out by saving her and trying to get her to have fun, but if you noticed the Runaway, clearly that lesson didn't stick. Katara has a lasting impact on Aang, but he doesn't seem to affect her as much. Mostly I just meant the understanding thing - Katara's always offering comfort and support to everyone else, but Zuko's the only one who's ever comforted her (and her father of course). I dunno, I just don't see a relationship working where Katara doesn't go to Aang for comfort - yes, I know she tries to be strong for him because he's got so many problems being the avatar and all, but she should still be able to receive comfort from him. but no, their relationship is all about Aang - what katara gives Aang, Aang's feelings, Aang's troubles.....yes, Katara receives some benefit from it, but its mostly about Aang.

    Ha ha, ok truce. We can agree to disagree.

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    AnimeAngel90

    [2440]Jun 23, 2008
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    ElysianGem wrote:

    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    Southern Air Temple maybe? I dunno, I think it was towards the beginning of the series. And yeah, Aang can help Katara out by saving her and trying to get her to have fun, but if you noticed the Runaway, clearly that lesson didn't stick. Katara has a lasting impact on Aang, but he doesn't seem to affect her as much. Mostly I just meant the understanding thing - Katara's always offering comfort and support to everyone else, but Zuko's the only one who's ever comforted her (and her father of course). I dunno, I just don't see a relationship working where Katara doesn't go to Aang for comfort - yes, I know she tries to be strong for him because he's got so many problems being the avatar and all, but she should still be able to receive comfort from him. but no, their relationship is all about Aang - what katara gives Aang, Aang's feelings, Aang's troubles.....yes, Katara receives some benefit from it, but its mostly about Aang.

    Ha ha, ok truce. We can agree to disagree.

    I'll drink to that! *cheers* lol.

    Thats the best thing about arguments like this - they are essentially just opinions, and opinions of a person can't really be argued, so there is really no argument. But we do it anyway because its fun. So yes, agreeing to disagree works fine with me (but I'll be back next argument....)

    Go Zutara! *drinks again* lol
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