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    waterbender6025

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    avrurakinninami wrote:
    Blaster33456 wrote:
    Zutara fans, i ask again: WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH MAI and ZUKO!!
    I can't see Maiko happening at all, first. Second, Katara is so much better to understand Zuko, they are made to be together.
    lol thats why she resents him? yep they are just made for each other

    also im confused about the whole age difference arguement you zutarians are saying that its not right because aang is 2 years younger than katara but you dont have a problem with zuko being like 2 years older than katara hmmm kinda doesnt make sense. and if its a maturity thing then the character development shows that aang has grown up alot (even katara says it in DoBS)

    Edited on 04/12/2008 8:24pm
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    fingerknot

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    merdok2005 wrote:
    Did I ever mention how my dad is 42 and my mom is 44? I repeat..There is nothing wrong whatsoever with a two years age difference...I don't see a problem with it. Yes, if it was like a 10 year age difference, I could understand, but it's not. I am 14, and in my opinion I would date a 12 year old if he loved me as much as Aang loves Katara, but that's completly bias. Just the same if mike and Bryan wanted a 10 year old and a 20 year old to date in the show...I wouldn't approve, but it's their choice. Just because you Zutaraians don't approve the age difference doesn't mean you can hold it in the air, and say you have proof. You have opinions, like everyone, but that doesn't mean you have the advantage.
    there is no love i would like it if he was not acting like a freak and i give up ships i still live on the zuturian ship but i would rather just enjoy the show
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    tomtitan

    [543]Apr 13, 2008
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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    Blaster33456 wrote:
    Explanation wise:
    AnimeAngel90>>>>>>avrurakinninami

    thank you animeAngel90 thanks for giving a great explanation. (Even though I'm still a Maizu fan) though I still like it.
    Glad I could help. Of course, I can't assume all zutarians think that way, but I know I at least do, lol.

    As for the age difference thing, age should only matter to the people in the relationship (except for that 55 and 6 one.....nice example ALK, lol) - if it doesnt' bother them, and they are both in love with each other, it shouldn't matter. But for Aang and Katara.....I think the age difference would be an issue at the ages they are. Sure, give it 3 or 4 years and it would be ok, but with Aang being 12, and still pretty immature (sure, he's grown up a bit, but he's still pretty much just a kid), it just wouldn't work out right now, particularly as Katara generally acts a lot older and more mature than her 14 years. Sure, its only a 2 year age difference, but its their maturity levels that are the real issues - Aang is still just as kid, and until he matures a lot more, I just can't see him and Katara working out. She's not 'too old' for him, she's 'too mature' or whatever for him at the moment (and yes, sometimes she acts childish, but generally she does act more mature than the others, thus the reason for my argument).


    I diasgree. I don't think aang is 'just a kid'. Pretty much the entire point of Katara's speech to him in DOBS1 was to say how he's not a kid. I think the words were "you're not that goofy kid I found in the iceberg anymore".
    The entire show is about Aang learning all 4 elements, but as he learns each element, his character develops a bit more. Think about it.

    Each element has a different quality attached to it.
    Air-peaceful/free-spirited
    Water-benevolent/loving
    Earth-strong/tough
    Fire-intense/willful

    As Aang learns each element from his teachers, who, in their own way, embody the quality of the element they teach, he learns to act in a way assosciated with the element.

    Think about it, in 101, all Aang wanted to do was go penguin sledding. Why? He was only an airbender, he did as airbenders did, he had fun. (grouchy temple monks don't count)
    Sokka and Katara, (both from the water tribe) taught him that he needs to be a bit more serious, he needs to accept his duties as avatar, and when Katara started teaching him waterbending he became even more loving.
    So, he's learned how to be free-spirited and benevolent. Then he moves onto earthbending, and his harsh taskmaster Toph, who is toughness personified, forces him to think like an earthbender, to be strong and tough. Aang obliges and adds another quality to his growing list, toughness.
    Next is firebending, and you don't get a more intense and willful person than Zuko, do you? Sokka said it himself 'If there's one thing we know about Zuko it's that he never gives up'. That's the next stage in his development, willpower. Once he's mastered that he's got all the qualities.

    I've gone 'slightly' off-topic. The point is, Aang hasn't just been learning how to bend the elements, he's been learning how to think like a person from that nation, that's what makes the Avatar so powerful. As he learns another element, he matures a bit more. So he's no longer 'you wanna go penguin sledding?', he's 'I'm ready, I'm ready to face the Firelord'.

    So, no. Aang is not 'just a kid'. He's just as mature as Katara.

    Side note: Anyone else notice how his voice is seriously breaking this season? Just another stage in his development, maturity. Lol. Seriously, they couldn't have planned it any better, his voice actor started breaking at the perfect time.
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    Blaster33456

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    0_0

    You found the personalitys to the Bending styles!! But yeah tomitan is right. Aang has matured. But after it, I think the reason why he doesn't want to think of a plan is because he's still mad that he messed up in the first place.
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    tomtitan

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    Blaster33456 wrote:
    0_0

    You found the personalities to the Bending styles!! But yeah tomtitan is right. Aang has matured. But after it, I think the reason why he doesn't want to think of a plan is because he's still mad that he messed up in the first place.

    I didn't find the personalities, they're written at the start of every episode. When Katara says 'Water, Earth, Fire, Air', the symbols behind the benders mean:

    Water is Adaptive/Benevolent
    Earth is Strong
    Fire is Intense/Willful
    Air is Peaceful

    And if you observe closely Aang's teachers exhibit these characteristics. Katara is benevolent, Toph is strong, Zuko is willful and Monk Gyatso was peaceful.
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    Blaster33456

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    Oh yeah.. now that you mention it.
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    avrurakinninami

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    waterbender6025 wrote:

    avrurakinninami wrote:
    Blaster33456 wrote:
    Zutara fans, i ask again: WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH MAI and ZUKO!!
    I can't see Maiko happening at all, first. Second, Katara is so much better to understand Zuko, they are made to be together.
    lol thats why she resents him? yep they are just made for each other

    also im confused about the whole age difference arguement you zutarians are saying that its not right because aang is 2 years younger than katara but you dont have a problem with zuko being like 2 years older than katara hmmm kinda doesnt make sense. and if its a maturity thing then the character development shows that aang has grown up alot (even katara says it in DoBS)



    I never said that. I'll keep my faith, thanks for questionning.
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    AllKnowingBeing

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    So much love that it sickens me.

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    fairwater67

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    Zutara is an interesting ship, but to start it this late in the season would be too rushed. It would be like Katara saying "oh zuko,joined, now i forget any POSSIBLE romantic feelings i have for aang and am now in love with Zuko!" Realistically it's impossible for that to happen,and also downright wrong since the creators have built up kataang for almost the entire the series.
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    SgtHydra

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    fairwater67 wrote:
    Zutara is an interesting ship, but to start it this late in the season would be too rushed. It would be like Katara saying "oh zuko,joined, now i forget any POSSIBLE romantic feelings i have for aang and am now in love with Zuko!" Realistically it's impossible for that to happen,and also downright wrong since the creators have built up kataang for almost the entire the series.

    Lissen, nobody is saying that Zutara will happen. We ship it regardless of it happening or not.

    Its a better ship than Kataang, whether Kataang is canon or not.

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    tomtitan

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    SgtHydra wrote:

    fairwater67 wrote:
    Zutara is an interesting ship, but to start it this late in the season would be too rushed. It would be like Katara saying "oh zuko,joined, now i forget any POSSIBLE romantic feelings i have for aang and am now in love with Zuko!" Realistically it's impossible for that to happen,and also downright wrong since the creators have built up kataang for almost the entire the series.

    Lissen, nobody is saying that Zutara will happen. We ship it regardless of it happening or not.

    Its a better ship than Kataang, whether Kataang is canon or not.

    Actually Sgt, a lot of people do think zutara will happen.
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    MasterBender

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    avrurakinninami wrote:
    Blaster33456 wrote:
    Zutara fans, i ask again: WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH MAI and ZUKO!!
    I can't see Maiko happening at all, first. Second, Katara is so much better to understand Zuko, they are made to be together.
    Here's a big surprise.

    Maiko already HAS happened! Are you denying reality?

    And just what about Zuko does Katara understand? Nothing, apparently. She hates him.

    SgtHydra wrote:
    Its a better ship than Kataang, whether Kataang is canon or not

    Opinion. Pure opinion. I think Kataang is better, and not because it's canon. I just like it. Come on, the good guy gets the girl. Quite frankly, Zuko doesn't DESERVE Katara. He could have turned good and had a chance at Katara in CoD. But he denied it, and now he's making Zutarians pay the price. Notice that I'm not saying he's paying the price. Zuko hasn't shown any interest in Katara. And Katara has shown quite the opposite of interest.

    Edited on 04/13/2008 12:10pm
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    tomtitan

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    MasterBender wrote:

    avrurakinninami wrote:
    Blaster33456 wrote:
    Zutara fans, i ask again: WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH MAI and ZUKO!!
    I can't see Maiko happening at all, first. Second, Katara is so much better to understand Zuko, they are made to be together.
    Here's a big surprise.

    Maiko already HAS happened! Are you denying reality?

    And just what about Zuko does Katara understand? Nothing, apparently. She hates him.

    [quote=SgtHydra]Its a better ship than Kataang, whether Kataang is canon or not

    Opinion. Pure opinion. I think Kataang is better, and not because it's canon. I just like it. Come on, the good guy gets the girl. Quite frankly, Zuko doesn't DESERVE Katara.

    [/QUOTE]Nice points. Little hint. If you want to quote someone, you did everything right, except you need to put "quotation marks" around their name.
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    MasterBender

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    I know, I fixed it. And I had a few more points, so I edited the post.
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    _Nalesnik_

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    MasterBender wrote:
    Maiko already HAS happened! Are you denying reality?
    I reject your reality, and substitute my own.
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    avrurakinninami

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    I just dont care about what you are saying, I'm just totally Zutarian and it will never change until the proof that Mai and Zuko are together at the end of this show. Everytime, Katara wanted to help Zuko and try to understand, he will have to make some excuses about it and she will have to regain her trust in him.

    Zutara until the end !
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    tomtitan

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    _Nalesnik_ wrote:
    MasterBender wrote:
    Maiko already HAS happened! Are you denying reality?
    I reject your reality, and substitute my own.
    That should be the motto of fanfiction.net!

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    MasterBender

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    avrurakinninami wrote:
    I just dont care about what you are saying, I'm just totally Zutarian and it will never change until the proof that Mai and Zuko are together at the end of this show. Everytime, Katara wanted to help Zuko and try to understand, he will have to make some excuses about it and she will have to regain her trust in him.

    Zutara until the end !


    Congratulations, you've just made my list of unreasonable and stubborn people.
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    wiseone_777

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    MasterBender wrote:
    avrurakinninami wrote:
    I just dont care about what you are saying, I'm just totally Zutarian and it will never change until the proof that Mai and Zuko are together at the end of this show. Everytime, Katara wanted to help Zuko and try to understand, he will have to make some excuses about it and she will have to regain her trust in him.

    Zutara until the end !


    Congratulations, you've just made my list of unreasonable and stubborn people.
    He was already on mine....
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    Blaster33456

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    He's on mine too.
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