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The New Official Kataang/Zutara Battlefield

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    Spacerac

    [461]Apr 7, 2008
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    WiseLad wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    That's what I said. Although, Katara's book doesn't reveal anything directly like whether or not she and Aang kissed (which they totally did ), it would provide even more evidence that she is an Aang fangirl.


    the book says the DOBS kiss was the first one(they never kissed at the cave, but were about to do that)
    Not quite, it was more like Katara glossed over whether or not they kissed.
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    WiseLad

    [462]Apr 7, 2008
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    What's he doing? It looks like he's moving towards me. He's moving closer and Closer. Is he trying to kiss me? I thought he didn't want- oops, the torches just went out! It's totally dark. I can't even make out where he is...Okay, Katara, just close your eyes and go with it...Whoa! Lights went on! They're forming a path across the ceiling! Huh, I guess love really is brightest in the dark!

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    now that I read it, it is kind of "ambiguous" is the whoa! for the kiss? of for the lights coming on?
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    Spacerac

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    WiseLad wrote:
    What's he doing? It looks like he's moving towards me. He's moving closer and Closer. Is he trying to kiss me? I thought he didn't want- oops, the torches just went out! It's totally dark. I can't even make out where he is...Okay, Katara, just close your eyes and go with it...Whoa! Lights went on! They're forming a path across the ceiling! Huh, I guess love really is brightest in the dark!

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    now that I read it, it is kind of "ambiguous" is the whoa! for the kiss? of for the lights coming on?
    Ah, clevah!
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    waterbender6025

    [464]Apr 8, 2008
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    i decided to cancel my break from shipping with this pros and cons list of kataang/zutara arguements, this is unbiased but im still sure that someone will flame me and say that i am a kataang supporter so i made it wrong, but whatever its still unbiased.

    pros and cons

    Kataang

    pro: aang has serious feelings for her.

    pro: they are around each other alot and have a close connection

    pro: they have already kissed twice.

    pro: they are always hugging and kissing on the cheek.

    pro: the fortune teller said katara will marry a very powerful bender (and who's more powerful than the avatar?).

    con: aang needs to master the avatar state; however this is under alot of controversy because many past avatars have loved and married AND mastered the avatar state.

    con: the fortune teller said there was no love in aangs future; however this is under controversy because and accurate reading may not have been determined from a bone exploding and this exploding bone can be linked to azula's lighting shot in CoD where aang died (so maybe the fortune teller couldnt see past that moment?) .

    pro: the relationship has been established from the very first episode .

    pro: mike and bryan said katara will end up with aang or zuko.

    zutara

    pro: zuko let katara touch his scar in CoD.

    pro: mike and bryan said katara will end up with aang or zuko.

    con: mostly only seen in fanfics not the actual show.

    con: katara resents zuko from all of the evil deads his done in the past.

    con: zuko has never shown any romantic feelings towards katara.

    con: katara has never shown any romantic feelings towards zuko.

    neutral: zuko has joined the gaang, this allows the zutarian relationship to develop however this cannot be determined until further episodes have been released

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    bendthisfire

    [465]Apr 8, 2008
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    waterbender6025 wrote:

    i decided to cancel my break from shipping with this pros and cons list of kataang/zutara arguements, this is unbiased but im still sure that someone will flame me and say that i am a kataang supporter so i made it wrong, but whatever its still unbiased.

    pros and cons

    Kataang

    pro: aang has serious feelings for her.

    pro: they are around each other alot and have a close connection

    pro: they have already kissed twice.

    pro: they are always hugging and kissing on the cheek.

    pro: the fortune teller said katara will marry a very powerful bender (and who's more powerful than the avatar?).

    con: aang needs to master the avatar state; however this is under alot of controversy because many past avatars have loved and married AND mastered the avatar state.

    con: the fortune teller said there was no love in aangs future; however this is under controversy because and accurate reading may not have been determined from a bone exploding and this exploding bone can be linked to azula's lighting shot in CoD where aang died (so maybe the fortune teller couldnt see past that moment?) .

    pro: the relationship has been established from the very first episode .

    pro: mike and bryan said katara will end up with aang or zuko.

    zutara

    pro: zuko let katara touch his scar in CoD.

    pro: mike and bryan said katara will end up with aang or zuko.

    con: mostly only seen in fanfics not the actual show.

    con: katara resents zuko from all of the evil deads his done in the past.

    con: zuko has never shown any romantic feelings towards katara.

    con: katara has never shown any romantic feelings towards zuko.

    neutral: zuko has joined the gaang, this allows the zutarian relationship to develop however this cannot be determined until further episodes have been released



    Very detailed, and on the fortuneteller she did say that we make our own destiny.
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    WiseLad

    [466]Apr 8, 2008
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    waterbender6025 wrote:

    i decided to cancel my break from shipping with this pros and cons list of kataang/zutara arguements, this is unbiased but im still sure that someone will flame me and say that i am a kataang supporter so i made it wrong, but whatever its still unbiased.

    pros and cons

    Kataang

    pro: aang has serious feelings for her.

    pro: they are around each other alot and have a close connection

    pro: they have already kissed twice.

    pro: they are always hugging and kissing on the cheek.

    pro: the fortune teller said katara will marry a very powerful bender (and who's more powerful than the avatar?).

    con: aang needs to master the avatar state; however this is under a lot of controversy because many past avatars have loved and married AND mastered the avatar state. plus his avatar state being locked can be linked to azula's lighting shot in CoD where aang "died" and many say when he was about to master it and he was able to find detachement from Katara

    con: the fortune teller said SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO SEE love in aangs future; however this is under controversy because an accurate reading may not have been determined from a bone exploding and/or the future was concentrated solely in the future final battle.

    pro: the relationship has been established from the very first episode .

    pro: mike and bryan said katara will end up with aang or zuko.

    zutara

    pro: zuko let katara touch his scar in CoD.

    pro: mike and bryan said katara will end up with aang or zuko.

    con: mostly only seen in fanfics not the actual show.

    con: katara resents zuko from all of the evil deads his done in the past.

    con: zuko has never shown any romantic feelings towards katara.

    con: katara has never shown any romantic feelings towards zuko.

    con: the situation of Mai and Zuko has not been resolved, have they broken up? or both still in love with each other?.

    neutral: zuko has joined the gaang, this allows the zutarian relationship to develop however this cannot be determined until further episodes have been released

    fixed, with some added words, or words moved somewhere else that I highlighted in bolded words
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    WiseLad

    [467]Apr 8, 2008
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    oh, and as a "pro zutara"

    they might not hook up right away, but they might sometime in the future, when both are years older

    things "don't have to happen right away" as some seem to think

    Aang is only 12, it will have to be AT LEAST 4 to 6 years before he can think of marriage
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    waterbender6025

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    WiseLad wrote:
    oh, and as a "pro zutara"

    they might not hook up right away, but they might sometime in the future, when both are years older

    things "don't have to happen right away" as some seem to think

    Aang is only 12, it will have to be AT LEAST 4 to 6 years before he can think of marriage
    yeh but thats also a pro kataang not just zutara, im trying to do points that are to one side or the other
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    tomtitan

    [469]Apr 8, 2008
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    as much as i love kataang, i'm going to play devil's advocate and add a pro to the zutara list.

    pro: the symbolism of yin/yang, water/fire etc. etc.
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    Murellus

    [470]Apr 8, 2008
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    tomtitan wrote:
    as much as i love kataang, i'm going to play devil's advocate and add a pro to the zutara list. pro: the symbolism of yin/yang, water/fire etc. etc.

    Ah the 'opposites attract argument':

    So Sokka totally balances out Katara.

    Bender/Non-bender

    Straight-forward/Sarcastic

    Hair-loopies/Partial hair

    Compassionate and Kind/Overtly masculin

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    tomtitan

    [471]Apr 8, 2008
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    Murellus wrote:

    tomtitan wrote:
    as much as i love kataang, i'm going to play devil's advocate and add a pro to the zutara list. pro: the symbolism of yin/yang, water/fire etc. etc.

    Ah the 'opposites attract argument':

    So Sokka totally balances out Katara.

    Bender/Non-bender

    Straight-forward/Sarcastic

    Hair-loopies/Partial hair

    Compassionate and Kind/Overtly masculin

    yeah, it is a lame argument isn't it?
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    Spacerac

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    tomtitan wrote:
    Murellus wrote:

    tomtitan wrote:
    as much as i love kataang, i'm going to play devil's advocate and add a pro to the zutara list. pro: the symbolism of yin/yang, water/fire etc. etc.

    Ah the 'opposites attract argument':

    So Sokka totally balances out Katara.

    Bender/Non-bender

    Straight-forward/Sarcastic

    Hair-loopies/Partial hair

    Compassionate and Kind/Overtly masculin

    yeah, it is a lame argument isn't it?
    Pretty much.
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    wiseone_777

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    Spacerac wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    Murellus wrote:

    tomtitan wrote:
    as much as i love kataang, i'm going to play devil's advocate and add a pro to the zutara list. pro: the symbolism of yin/yang, water/fire etc. etc.

    Ah the 'opposites attract argument':

    So Sokka totally balances out Katara.

    Bender/Non-bender

    Straight-forward/Sarcastic

    Hair-loopies/Partial hair

    Compassionate and Kind/Overtly masculin

    yeah, it is a lame argument isn't it?
    Pretty much.
    If it's the yin/yang thing again, then there should be Zukka and Azokka and Aztara. But they aren't!
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    waterbender6025

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    tomtitan wrote:
    as much as i love kataang, i'm going to play devil's advocate and add a pro to the zutara list.

    pro: the symbolism of yin/yang, water/fire etc. etc.
    yeh im not buying that whole opposite attract thing, i dont see it as a good point,
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    MasterBender

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    tomtitan wrote:
    as much as i love kataang, i'm going to play devil's advocate and add a pro to the zutara list.

    pro: the symbolism of yin/yang, water/fire etc. etc.


    Never alluded to in the series to pertain to Zuko and Katara. Just wishful thinking on the Zutarians' part.

    You might as well argue Azukka or Maiang.
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    AllKnowingBeing

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    The final scene of Avatar:

    "You must choice!"-Zuko

    "Don't rush me!"-Katara

    "Its ether me or him Katara."-Aang

    "Ok I choice.."-Katara

    (credits)

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    SplitReflection

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    AllKnowingBeing wrote:

    The final scene of Avatar:

    "You must choose!"-Zuko

    "Don't rush me!"-Katara

    "Its ether me or him Katara."-Aang

    "Ok I choose.."-Katara

    (credits)

    Best. Ending. Ever.

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    WiseLad

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    SplitReflection wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:

    The final scene of Avatar:

    "You must choose!"-Zuko

    "Don't rush me!"-Katara

    "Its either me or him Katara."-Aang

    "I guess I will get the loser"-Mai

    "Ok I choose.."-Katara

    (credits)

    Best. Ending. Ever.



    so either Zutara and Maiang will happen, or maybe kataang and maizu, or maybe Maizutaraang

    interesting ending
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    MasterBender

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    SplitReflection wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:

    The final scene of Avatar:

    "You must choose!"-Zuko

    "Don't rush me!"-Katara

    "Its ether me or him Katara."-Aang

    "Ok I choose.."-Katara

    (credits)

    Best. Ending. Ever.



    If so, I will be the leader of the mob that storms Mike & Brian's homes. It would be THEIR fault that Zutara was still alive!

    Seriously, though, it not only looks like M&B are building Kataang, they're actively working against Zutara. See WAT. I wonder what their reaction was when they heard there were still canon Zutarians after WAT got out...
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    SplitReflection

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    MasterBender wrote:
    SplitReflection wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:

    The final scene of Avatar:

    "You must choose!"-Zuko

    "Don't rush me!"-Katara

    "Its ether me or him Katara."-Aang

    "Ok I choose.."-Katara

    (credits)

    Best. Ending. Ever.

    If so, I will be the leader of the mob that storms Mike & Brian's homes. It would be THEIR fault that Zutara was still alive! Seriously, though, it not only looks like M&B are building Kataang, they're actively working against Zutara. See WAT. I wonder what their reaction was when they heard there were still canon Zutarians after WAT got out...

    I never got why people thought Katara's reaction in WAT was anti-Zutara. I mean, she actually spoke to him without them then attempting to bend each other out of existance. And he almost smiled when she came in. Plenty of fuel for a Zutaran. Remember, they thrive on nothing.

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