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    MasterBender

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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    MasterBender wrote:
    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    i find it hard to believe that aang and katara make out, then in the very next episode katara effectively says to zuko 'touch muh man and you die!', and people still believe that katara will stop hating zuko, zuko will actually decide it's a good idea to steal aang's girl, who he's already on thin ice with, zuko will break up with mai, katara will put aang down gently, aang will completely get over the fact that his former worst enemy turned new best friend and his first crush are makin' out and mai will get over the fact that her childhood crush who she lost for 3 years is makin' out with a girl she's only met whn trying to kill, in 8 episodes.

    wow, long sentence!

    not many actualy points being made here, so i'm bumping up my statement to spark some debate.
    Speculation based, but whatever.

    Ok, clearly Katara will forgive Zuko, else go against every 'law' that says people on the same team on the same side can hate each other. Also, I believe Mai and Zuko have/will break up (do they look happy to see each other in that drawing? No, they do not). Also, even if Zuko hasn't broken up with her, they will have to break up because I just can't see her leaving Azula and Ty Lee to join the Gaang. it just wouldn't work. Also, I doubt she's been pining over Zuko for 3 years or however long its been. Sure she might have had a crush on him over that time, but i don't think she's overwhelmingly in love with him (besides, I believe that Maiko was set-up by Azula to keep Zuko in the Fire Nation. But that's just my theory ) Besides, Mai can't really say 'no zuko, i FORBID you to go out with that girl'. If he does actually get together with katara, Mai won't have a say (assuming those two are definitely broken up by that stage, lol)

    Also, I really do think Katara will let Aang go. No matter which guy she picks or whatever, her feelings have to change - either from enemies to lovers (zuko) or best friends to lovers (aang). I think, shown by her reaction to the kiss and the way she's treated Aang since, she still isn't sure of her feelings for him, and I believe she will ultimately NOT fall in love/realise she's in love with him.

    But my further opinion has clearly been expressed before and repeating it now will do nothing but rile up the kataangers further, so I'll stop there .

    (but basically, once katara forgives zuko, its open ground again - there is potential for them to become closer. Not saying it will happen, but it could. From that point, unless somethign happens before then to tell us otherwise, its equal between kataang and zutara)


    Actually, you can't say stuff like that for sure. I mean, Katara's threat breaks every single "law" about supportive heart-of-the-team female characters in the first place.

    Here's a question- how would you react if Katara said she loved Aang and Mai ran off with Zuko in "The Boiling Rock"?
    Depends how many knives and fellow zutarians I have handy at the time

    Seriously though, ok, I can see Kataang happening (as much as I dislike the pairing - and this is without zutara. I just don't like kataang), but Mai running off with Zuko? Come on! She's not joining the good guys, and Zuko's not running out on Aang. That would just kill the entire series for me. Kataang I could deal with, but not that. It would be WAY too random and pointless. So yeah, I see the death of Maiko. Maybe Mai will do some good thing like letting Zuko out of jail or something, but she won't leave the Fire Nation, and he won't go back to the Fire Nation. it would just kill everything!

    And i doubt Katara would say she loved Aang in BR - its too soon. bryke will want to draw Katara's choice out into the finale, no matter how obvious her choice seems to be. They've tormented us all heaps already, why end it now? lol


    Alright, I guess those are probably some things we agree on:

    A. Mai should not run off with Zuko in BR.

    B. Kataang will not have resolution until the finale.

    Mind you, I still think Maiko will happen... it just won't be resolved in BR.
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    AnimeAngel90

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    MasterBender wrote:
    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    MasterBender wrote:
    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    i find it hard to believe that aang and katara make out, then in the very next episode katara effectively says to zuko 'touch muh man and you die!', and people still believe that katara will stop hating zuko, zuko will actually decide it's a good idea to steal aang's girl, who he's already on thin ice with, zuko will break up with mai, katara will put aang down gently, aang will completely get over the fact that his former worst enemy turned new best friend and his first crush are makin' out and mai will get over the fact that her childhood crush who she lost for 3 years is makin' out with a girl she's only met whn trying to kill, in 8 episodes. wow, long sentence!
    not many actualy points being made here, so i'm bumping up my statement to spark some debate.
    Speculation based, but whatever. Ok, clearly Katara will forgive Zuko, else go against every 'law' that says people on the same team on the same side can hate each other. Also, I believe Mai and Zuko have/will break up (do they look happy to see each other in that drawing? No, they do not). Also, even if Zuko hasn't broken up with her, they will have to break up because I just can't see her leaving Azula and Ty Lee to join the Gaang. it just wouldn't work. Also, I doubt she's been pining over Zuko for 3 years or however long its been. Sure she might have had a crush on him over that time, but i don't think she's overwhelmingly in love with him (besides, I believe that Maiko was set-up by Azula to keep Zuko in the Fire Nation. But that's just my theory ) Besides, Mai can't really say 'no zuko, i FORBID you to go out with that girl'. If he does actually get together with katara, Mai won't have a say (assuming those two are definitely broken up by that stage, lol) Also, I really do think Katara will let Aang go. No matter which guy she picks or whatever, her feelings have to change - either from enemies to lovers (zuko) or best friends to lovers (aang). I think, shown by her reaction to the kiss and the way she's treated Aang since, she still isn't sure of her feelings for him, and I believe she will ultimately NOT fall in love/realise she's in love with him. But my further opinion has clearly been expressed before and repeating it now will do nothing but rile up the kataangers further, so I'll stop there . (but basically, once katara forgives zuko, its open ground again - there is potential for them to become closer. Not saying it will happen, but it could. From that point, unless somethign happens before then to tell us otherwise, its equal between kataang and zutara)
    Actually, you can't say stuff like that for sure. I mean, Katara's threat breaks every single "law" about supportive heart-of-the-team female characters in the first place. Here's a question- how would you react if Katara said she loved Aang and Mai ran off with Zuko in "The Boiling Rock"?
    Depends how many knives and fellow zutarians I have handy at the time Seriously though, ok, I can see Kataang happening (as much as I dislike the pairing - and this is without zutara. I just don't like kataang), but Mai running off with Zuko? Come on! She's not joining the good guys, and Zuko's not running out on Aang. That would just kill the entire series for me. Kataang I could deal with, but not that. It would be WAY too random and pointless. So yeah, I see the death of Maiko. Maybe Mai will do some good thing like letting Zuko out of jail or something, but she won't leave the Fire Nation, and he won't go back to the Fire Nation. it would just kill everything! And i doubt Katara would say she loved Aang in BR - its too soon. bryke will want to draw Katara's choice out into the finale, no matter how obvious her choice seems to be. They've tormented us all heaps already, why end it now? lol
    Alright, I guess those are probably some things we agree on: A. Mai should not run off with Zuko in BR. B. Kataang will not have resolution until the finale. Mind you, I still think Maiko will happen... it just won't be resolved in BR.
    Well, at least we agree on two things Its a start.

    Wonder if there's anything else we can agree on? Katara will eventually forgive Zuko? Suki will turn up again? Aang will go for Ozai, Zuko goes for Azula? Sokka will end up with a girlfriend? We will find out more about Katara and Sokka's mother? (coming up with relatively neutral things is hard, lol).

    Edited on 04/06/2008 4:43am
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    Blaster33456

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    I'm a hardcore Maizu fan!
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    ChaosCannon12

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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:

    MasterBender wrote:
    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    MasterBender wrote:
    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    i find it hard to believe that aang and katara make out, then in the very next episode katara effectively says to zuko 'touch muh man and you die!', and people still believe that katara will stop hating zuko, zuko will actually decide it's a good idea to steal aang's girl, who he's already on thin ice with, zuko will break up with mai, katara will put aang down gently, aang will completely get over the fact that his former worst enemy turned new best friend and his first crush are makin' out and mai will get over the fact that her childhood crush who she lost for 3 years is makin' out with a girl she's only met whn trying to kill, in 8 episodes. wow, long sentence!
    not many actualy points being made here, so i'm bumping up my statement to spark some debate.
    Speculation based, but whatever. Ok, clearly Katara will forgive Zuko, else go against every 'law' that says people on the same team on the same side can hate each other. Also, I believe Mai and Zuko have/will break up (do they look happy to see each other in that drawing? No, they do not). Also, even if Zuko hasn't broken up with her, they will have to break up because I just can't see her leaving Azula and Ty Lee to join the Gaang. it just wouldn't work. Also, I doubt she's been pining over Zuko for 3 years or however long its been. Sure she might have had a crush on him over that time, but i don't think she's overwhelmingly in love with him (besides, I believe that Maiko was set-up by Azula to keep Zuko in the Fire Nation. But that's just my theory ) Besides, Mai can't really say 'no zuko, i FORBID you to go out with that girl'. If he does actually get together with katara, Mai won't have a say (assuming those two are definitely broken up by that stage, lol) Also, I really do think Katara will let Aang go. No matter which guy she picks or whatever, her feelings have to change - either from enemies to lovers (zuko) or best friends to lovers (aang). I think, shown by her reaction to the kiss and the way she's treated Aang since, she still isn't sure of her feelings for him, and I believe she will ultimately NOT fall in love/realise she's in love with him. But my further opinion has clearly been expressed before and repeating it now will do nothing but rile up the kataangers further, so I'll stop there . (but basically, once katara forgives zuko, its open ground again - there is potential for them to become closer. Not saying it will happen, but it could. From that point, unless somethign happens before then to tell us otherwise, its equal between kataang and zutara)
    Actually, you can't say stuff like that for sure. I mean, Katara's threat breaks every single "law" about supportive heart-of-the-team female characters in the first place. Here's a question- how would you react if Katara said she loved Aang and Mai ran off with Zuko in "The Boiling Rock"?
    Depends how many knives and fellow zutarians I have handy at the time Seriously though, ok, I can see Kataang happening (as much as I dislike the pairing - and this is without zutara. I just don't like kataang), but Mai running off with Zuko? Come on! She's not joining the good guys, and Zuko's not running out on Aang. That would just kill the entire series for me. Kataang I could deal with, but not that. It would be WAY too random and pointless. So yeah, I see the death of Maiko. Maybe Mai will do some good thing like letting Zuko out of jail or something, but she won't leave the Fire Nation, and he won't go back to the Fire Nation. it would just kill everything! And i doubt Katara would say she loved Aang in BR - its too soon. bryke will want to draw Katara's choice out into the finale, no matter how obvious her choice seems to be. They've tormented us all heaps already, why end it now? lol
    Alright, I guess those are probably some things we agree on: A. Mai should not run off with Zuko in BR. B. Kataang will not have resolution until the finale. Mind you, I still think Maiko will happen... it just won't be resolved in BR.
    Well, at least we agree on two things Its a start.

    Wonder if there's anything else we can agree on? Katara will eventually forgive Zuko? Suki will turn up again? Aang will go for Ozai, Zuko goes for Azula? Sokka will end up with a girlfriend? We will find out more about Katara and Sokka's mother? (coming up with relatively neutral things is hard, lol).

    Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes. I am very sure those things are gonna happen.

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    ChaosCannon12 wrote:
    AnimeAngel90 wrote:

    MasterBender wrote:
    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    MasterBender wrote:
    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    i find it hard to believe that aang and katara make out, then in the very next episode katara effectively says to zuko 'touch muh man and you die!', and people still believe that katara will stop hating zuko, zuko will actually decide it's a good idea to steal aang's girl, who he's already on thin ice with, zuko will break up with mai, katara will put aang down gently, aang will completely get over the fact that his former worst enemy turned new best friend and his first crush are makin' out and mai will get over the fact that her childhood crush who she lost for 3 years is makin' out with a girl she's only met whn trying to kill, in 8 episodes. wow, long sentence!
    not many actualy points being made here, so i'm bumping up my statement to spark some debate.
    Speculation based, but whatever. Ok, clearly Katara will forgive Zuko, else go against every 'law' that says people on the same team on the same side can hate each other. Also, I believe Mai and Zuko have/will break up (do they look happy to see each other in that drawing? No, they do not). Also, even if Zuko hasn't broken up with her, they will have to break up because I just can't see her leaving Azula and Ty Lee to join the Gaang. it just wouldn't work. Also, I doubt she's been pining over Zuko for 3 years or however long its been. Sure she might have had a crush on him over that time, but i don't think she's overwhelmingly in love with him (besides, I believe that Maiko was set-up by Azula to keep Zuko in the Fire Nation. But that's just my theory ) Besides, Mai can't really say 'no zuko, i FORBID you to go out with that girl'. If he does actually get together with katara, Mai won't have a say (assuming those two are definitely broken up by that stage, lol) Also, I really do think Katara will let Aang go. No matter which guy she picks or whatever, her feelings have to change - either from enemies to lovers (zuko) or best friends to lovers (aang). I think, shown by her reaction to the kiss and the way she's treated Aang since, she still isn't sure of her feelings for him, and I believe she will ultimately NOT fall in love/realise she's in love with him. But my further opinion has clearly been expressed before and repeating it now will do nothing but rile up the kataangers further, so I'll stop there . (but basically, once katara forgives zuko, its open ground again - there is potential for them to become closer. Not saying it will happen, but it could. From that point, unless somethign happens before then to tell us otherwise, its equal between kataang and zutara)
    Actually, you can't say stuff like that for sure. I mean, Katara's threat breaks every single "law" about supportive heart-of-the-team female characters in the first place. Here's a question- how would you react if Katara said she loved Aang and Mai ran off with Zuko in "The Boiling Rock"?
    Depends how many knives and fellow zutarians I have handy at the time Seriously though, ok, I can see Kataang happening (as much as I dislike the pairing - and this is without zutara. I just don't like kataang), but Mai running off with Zuko? Come on! She's not joining the good guys, and Zuko's not running out on Aang. That would just kill the entire series for me. Kataang I could deal with, but not that. It would be WAY too random and pointless. So yeah, I see the death of Maiko. Maybe Mai will do some good thing like letting Zuko out of jail or something, but she won't leave the Fire Nation, and he won't go back to the Fire Nation. it would just kill everything! And i doubt Katara would say she loved Aang in BR - its too soon. bryke will want to draw Katara's choice out into the finale, no matter how obvious her choice seems to be. They've tormented us all heaps already, why end it now? lol
    Alright, I guess those are probably some things we agree on: A. Mai should not run off with Zuko in BR. B. Kataang will not have resolution until the finale. Mind you, I still think Maiko will happen... it just won't be resolved in BR.
    Well, at least we agree on two things Its a start.

    Wonder if there's anything else we can agree on? Katara will eventually forgive Zuko? Suki will turn up again? Aang will go for Ozai, Zuko goes for Azula? Sokka will end up with a girlfriend? We will find out more about Katara and Sokka's mother? (coming up with relatively neutral things is hard, lol).

    Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes. I am very sure those things are gonna happen.


    no, no, no, no, and no. I am very sure those things are gonna not happen
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    edmasterchaos

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    Hi, yeah, i just wanted to state that i am now officially a Kataanger, so yeah.

    Zutara will happen when turtle-pigs fly =P
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    AllKnowingBeing

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    edmasterchaos wrote:
    Hi, yeah, i just wanted to state that i am now officially a Kataanger, so yeah.

    Zutara will happen when turtle-pigs fly =P
    Welcomes the new brother Kataanger.
    Zutara-"sniffs" That's some good crack ship.
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    edmasterchaos wrote:
    Hi, yeah, i just wanted to state that i am now officially a Kataanger, so yeah.

    Zutara will happen when turtle-pigs fly =P

    ***SPOILER***
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    Sigh, this is still going? Of course Zutara will happen.

    Im not sure what was unclear abuot Aang and his mother in that last episode.......

    katara felt cheated on, and went with zuko
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    MasterBender

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    You lost me at Aang's mother.

    And yes, AnimeAngel, I agree with all of that. I do want Katara to forgive Zuko, and once that happens, I would leave the door open for Zutara- if it wasn't for all the effort M&B have put into Kataang.
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    MasterBender wrote:
    You lost me at Aang's mother.

    And yes, AnimeAngel, I agree with all of that. I do want Katara to forgive Zuko, and once that happens, I would leave the door open for Zutara- if it wasn't for all the effort M&B have put into Kataang.
    Well, whichever couple happens, they better show katara's change of feelings, and not make it random (either friends to lovers for aang, or enemies to lovers for zuko. both ships need a change )

    And yeah, they have put lots of effort into Kataang, but only from Aang's POV (well, close enough to his POV, as the show isn't really in 1st person...well, you know what I mean ). So all the kataang COULD (not saying it is) be explained away as Aang (the hero) being the hero and sacrificing what is most important to him to save the world and whatnot. Kataang could be showing Aang's development - particularly if it doesn't happen. He went through love, yet ultimately gave it up because it was necessary for him to save the world etc. Yeah, I don't know. You don't have to agree, but hopefully you know what I tried to say, lol. And that is a throughly zutara standpoint, but as long as kataang happens from katara's side, I will be happy with kataang

    If zutara happens though, it has to be done right (with development etc) else I will scream at the computer screen like I did at the suddeness of Maiko (I didn't read the comics, and was most confused, lol).
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    tomtitan

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    well that katara scrolls thread just dealt a devastating blow to zutara. opinions on it?
    i was personally most interested in the zutara XROD scene, you should read it.
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    AnimeAngel90

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    tomtitan wrote:
    well that katara scrolls thread just dealt a devastating blow to zutara. opinions on it?
    i was personally most interested in the zutara XROD scene, you should read it.
    Wait, what? What are you talking about? Where is this thing?

    (and it seems everything these days is designed to bring zutara down. I just keep amusing myself by thinking that nothing can be proved as canon or disproved because giving away the ending would not be allowed in any way (and if they said something wasn't canon that proved kataang, they might as well give the ending away, etc))

    And that didn't make sense, so what were you talking about? katara scrolls?
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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    well that katara scrolls thread just dealt a devastating blow to zutara. opinions on it? i was personally most interested in the zutara XROD scene, you should read it.
    Wait, what? What are you talking about? Where is this thing? (and it seems everything these days is designed to bring zutara down. I just keep amusing myself by thinking that nothing can be proved as canon or disproved because giving away the ending would not be allowed in any way (and if they said something wasn't canon that proved kataang, they might as well give the ending away, etc)) And that didn't make sense, so what were you talking about? katara scrolls?

    http://www.tv.com/avatar-the-last-airbender/show/28841/if-thats-not-canon-than-what-is/topic/13281-1038238/msgs.html?tag=board_topics;title;15

    just skip the second page. all it has is people talking about how much they hate NBB and HSM.

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    AnimeAngel90

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    tomtitan wrote:

    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    well that katara scrolls thread just dealt a devastating blow to zutara. opinions on it? i was personally most interested in the zutara XROD scene, you should read it.
    Wait, what? What are you talking about? Where is this thing? (and it seems everything these days is designed to bring zutara down. I just keep amusing myself by thinking that nothing can be proved as canon or disproved because giving away the ending would not be allowed in any way (and if they said something wasn't canon that proved kataang, they might as well give the ending away, etc)) And that didn't make sense, so what were you talking about? katara scrolls?

    http://www.tv.com/avatar-the-last-airbender/show/28841/if-thats-not-canon-than-what-is/topic/13281-1038238/msgs.html?tag=board_topics;title;15

    just skip the second page. all it has is people talking about how much they hate NBB and HSM.
    lol, i just found that topic and read it. (prepare for a rather disjointed post now) And although this is going to sound really stupid and zutarian 'ignoring all the facts' stuff, this can't be proof of kataang. Whoever wrote the books might think that's how its going to end up, but that doesn't mean they're right. The books won't be canon or anything until Bryke has concrete Kataang/Zutara on the show, and no chances of the other happening. Nothing will be confirmed until then, for fear of spoiling the ending.

    However, zutarian aside, although some of it was written weirdly (remind me again how long she had to think all this stuff? lol), it was very cute! Seriously, if Katara actually seemed to be thinking those things at those moments, I'd go for Kataang. It IS adorable after all. But on the show, I don't see her hiding feelings for Aang, or being in love with Aang. but that could just be me and my zutara side (but I couldn't see katara liking aang back, even before I became a zutarian, I swear!).

    Personally, I'd LOVE to see "katara's viewpoint" on the DOBS kiss. Now that would be far more interesting than OVERLY-debated season 2 stuff

    Ok, about the XROD interpretation: I LOVED how they compared that moment to Jet - like she wanted to forgive Zuko because she didn't forgive Jet (more jetara/zutara parallels, lol). I thought it was very interesting how she made the "healing the scar" a gesture to bring him over to their side. I always assumed it was just her compassionate side reacting to help someone she connected with, but that was a good viewpoint too. So I'm not sure how to react to that one, lol. (omg, its so wrong, zutara FTW! sounds alright )

    Also, I found it kinda odd how they showed her pining over Aang, yet she was so easily attracted to Jet all over again. I don't know, it just seems a little complicated for a cartoon character, lol. I think she's too confused about her feelings for Aang to be pining over him like she did in all those scenes, lol.

    In conclusion, very cute, but I won't be convinced until Bryke tell me its Kataang in person/I see a kataang finale (whichever comes first). I'll believe in zutara no matter what the odds and no matter how adorable kataang is when katara actually seems to have feelings for Aang! lol
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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:

    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    well that katara scrolls thread just dealt a devastating blow to zutara. opinions on it? i was personally most interested in the zutara XROD scene, you should read it.
    Wait, what? What are you talking about? Where is this thing? (and it seems everything these days is designed to bring zutara down. I just keep amusing myself by thinking that nothing can be proved as canon or disproved because giving away the ending would not be allowed in any way (and if they said something wasn't canon that proved kataang, they might as well give the ending away, etc)) And that didn't make sense, so what were you talking about? katara scrolls?

    http://www.tv.com/avatar-the-last-airbender/show/28841/if-thats-not-canon-than-what-is/topic/13281-1038238/msgs.html?tag=board_topics;title;15

    just skip the second page. all it has is people talking about how much they hate NBB and HSM.
    lol, i just found that topic and read it. (prepare for a rather disjointed post now) And although this is going to sound really stupid and zutarian 'ignoring all the facts' stuff, this can't be proof of kataang. Whoever wrote the books might think that's how its going to end up, but that doesn't mean they're right. The books won't be canon or anything until Bryke has concrete Kataang/Zutara on the show, and no chances of the other happening. Nothing will be confirmed until then, for fear of spoiling the ending.

    However, zutarian aside, although some of it was written weirdly (remind me again how long she had to think all this stuff? lol), it was very cute! Seriously, if Katara actually seemed to be thinking those things at those moments, I'd go for Kataang. It IS adorable after all. But on the show, I don't see her hiding feelings for Aang, or being in love with Aang. but that could just be me and my zutara side (but I couldn't see katara liking aang back, even before I became a zutarian, I swear!).

    Personally, I'd LOVE to see "katara's viewpoint" on the DOBS kiss. Now that would be far more interesting than OVERLY-debated season 2 stuff

    Ok, about the XROD interpretation: I LOVED how they compared that moment to Jet - like she wanted to forgive Zuko because she didn't forgive Jet (more jetara/zutara parallels, lol). I thought it was very interesting how she made the "healing the scar" a gesture to bring him over to their side. I always assumed it was just her compassionate side reacting to help someone she connected with, but that was a good viewpoint too. So I'm not sure how to react to that one, lol. (omg, its so wrong, zutara FTW! sounds alright )

    Also, I found it kinda odd how they showed her pining over Aang, yet she was so easily attracted to Jet all over again. I don't know, it just seems a little complicated for a cartoon character, lol. I think she's too confused about her feelings for Aang to be pining over him like she did in all those scenes, lol.

    In conclusion, very cute, but I won't be convinced until Bryke tell me its Kataang in person/I see a kataang finale (whichever comes first). I'll believe in zutara no matter what the odds and no matter how adorable kataang is when katara actually seems to have feelings for Aang! lol
    good points. it's kinda nice to see katara's viewpoints in this, but as for how canon it is, i think lisa31468 confirmed its canon-ness (:s) in one of the posts.
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    AnimeAngel90

    [457]Apr 7, 2008
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    True, but Bryke can't exactly go "no, that's not canon! zutara is! Oh crap, we spoiled the ending" if that was the case. Like all those people who say "but if your uncle/etc said that kataang would happen, wouldn't they get sued by spoiling the ending?". Byrke can't actually do anything to confirm/deny canon-works without giving away the ending, lol.

    And that book could be canon, easily, but as that sort of thing (Katara's feelings) isn't necessarily portrayed in the show, I'd hate to see Kataang happen based on that. Kataang needs to be based on IN-SHOW stuff (which is why I think Maiko will fail - too much development happened off-screen for it to work in my (admittedly zutara-biased) eyes) for it to be truly canon. Like what you've been saying about zutara - you would only accept it if it had solid buildup. Would you accept zutara if someone wrote a book about Katara and Zuko's feelings, and then they just magically ended up together on the show? No, you wouldn't. You'd hate it (and so would I, lol).

    If its not the show, or a story between shows (like the maiko magazine) its not canon, as much as we'd like it to be. It can be close to canon, but unless it happens on-screen.....I just don't want relationships to happen off-screen. It takes away from the joy of watching them develop! which is the best parts of ships!
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    WiseLad

    [458]Apr 7, 2008
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    Bryke has taken the time to say "Card games are not canon"

    but they have not bothered to deny or confirm the scroll books

    they can EASILY go "these books are not the basis for what will happen in the actual series, the series can go either way, to see what happens, watch the series"

    it would not affirm or kill either Kataang or Zutara
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    Spacerac

    [459]Apr 7, 2008
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    That's what I said. Although, Katara's book doesn't reveal anything directly like whether or not she and Aang kissed (which they totally did ), it would provide even more evidence that she is an Aang fangirl.
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    WiseLad

    [460]Apr 7, 2008
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    Spacerac wrote:
    That's what I said. Although, Katara's book doesn't reveal anything directly like whether or not she and Aang kissed (which they totally did ), it would provide even more evidence that she is an Aang fangirl.


    the book says the DOBS kiss was the first one(they never kissed at the cave, but were about to do that)
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