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The New Official Kataang/Zutara Battlefield

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    kaybee_2

    [821]Apr 20, 2008
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    horacus wrote:

    ruboy003 wrote:
    if kataang wins everybody's happy

    Agreed.



    I know I'll be happy!
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    ruboy003

    [822]Apr 20, 2008
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    even zutarians are at least they have mai instead
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    daveshanFromGMU

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    ruboy003 wrote:
    even zutarians are at least they have mai instead

    Actually, Jin was much better than Mai. Mai is blah. Jin is perky.

    Oh and people seem to be forgetting that it is not so much the hug as it is drawing away from Aang's kiss. Remember, Mike and Bryan have said that she will be with either Aang or Zuko. Therefore, anything that says that she won't be with one says that she will be with the other.

    There is no counter-argument for the trailer kiss. She pulls away, shocked. No smile like in the daydream. No blush like in DoBS. Just pulling away. If you have an official screenshot of her going back into the kiss, please show me that. If you have a scene of Zuko trying to kiss her and she pulls away or vice versa, please show me that. Until then, the canon says Zuzueen (Zuzu and Sugar Queen).

    All this time, you guys have wanted evidence from the show. Well, it is here. Deal with it.

    Or, you can do option two:

    By the way, I didn't make this: http://nimbathien.deviantart.com/art/Free-Falling-Fun-83429662


    Edited on 04/20/2008 7:58pm
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    Spike815

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    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    ruboy003 wrote:
    even zutarians are at least they have mai instead

    Actually, if Jin was much better than Mai. Mai is blah. Jin is perky.

    Oh and people seem to be forgetting that it is not so much the hug as it is drawing away from Aang's kiss. Remember, Mike and Bryan have said that she will be with either Aang or Zuko. Therefore, anything that says that she won't be with one says that she will be with the other.

    There is no counter-argument for the trailer kiss. She pulls away, shocked. No smile like in the daydream. No blush like in DoBS. Just pulling away. If you have an official screenshot of her going back into the kiss, please show me that. If you have a scene of Zuko trying to kiss her and she pulls away or vice versa, please show me that. Until then, the canon says Zuzueen (Zuzu and Sugar Queen).

    All this time, you guys have wanted evidence from the show. Well, it is here. Deal with it.

    Or, you can do option two:

    By the way, I didn't make this: http://nimbathien.deviantart.com/art/Free-Falling-Fun-83429662


    Um, yes there is a counter-arguement to the kiss. It was a 3 second clip and we have no idea why she pulled away. Is it because she doesn't like him that way? Is it because he admitted he's willing to give up the AS for her? There's alot of reasons she could pull away that don't lead to Zutara.

    But don't let logic get in your way. The creators would never try to trick you with a preview!

    Edited on 04/20/2008 8:03pm
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    daveshanFromGMU

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    Spike815 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    ruboy003 wrote:
    even zutarians are at least they have mai instead

    Actually, if Jin was much better than Mai. Mai is blah. Jin is perky.

    Oh and people seem to be forgetting that it is not so much the hug as it is drawing away from Aang's kiss. Remember, Mike and Bryan have said that she will be with either Aang or Zuko. Therefore, anything that says that she won't be with one says that she will be with the other.

    There is no counter-argument for the trailer kiss. She pulls away, shocked. No smile like in the daydream. No blush like in DoBS. Just pulling away. If you have an official screenshot of her going back into the kiss, please show me that. If you have a scene of Zuko trying to kiss her and she pulls away or vice versa, please show me that. Until then, the canon says Zuzueen (Zuzu and Sugar Queen).

    All this time, you guys have wanted evidence from the show. Well, it is here. Deal with it.

    Or, you can do option two:

    By the way, I didn't make this: http://nimbathien.deviantart.com/art/Free-Falling-Fun-83429662


    Um, yes there is a counter-arguement to the kiss. It was a 3 second clip and we have no idea why she pulled away. Is it because she doesn't like him that way? Is it because he admitted he's willing to give up the AS for her? There's alot of reasons she could pull away that don't lead to Zutara.

    But don't let logic get in your way. The creators would never try to trick you with a preview!

    But people who work at the studios would spread rumors that Sugar Toes (Sugar Queen + Twinkle Toes) is going to happen at the expence of their jobs? Even if he said he was giving up the AS for her, don't you think that Katara would tell Aang she doesn't love him if for no other reason then so he'll go into the AS. Look either way, he's going into the AS. That means, he has to let those attachments "...flow down the river forgotten."

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    kaybee_2

    [826]Apr 20, 2008
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    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    Spike815 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    ruboy003 wrote:
    even zutarians are at least they have mai instead

    Actually, if Jin was much better than Mai. Mai is blah. Jin is perky.

    Oh and people seem to be forgetting that it is not so much the hug as it is drawing away from Aang's kiss. Remember, Mike and Bryan have said that she will be with either Aang or Zuko. Therefore, anything that says that she won't be with one says that she will be with the other.

    There is no counter-argument for the trailer kiss. She pulls away, shocked. No smile like in the daydream. No blush like in DoBS. Just pulling away. If you have an official screenshot of her going back into the kiss, please show me that. If you have a scene of Zuko trying to kiss her and she pulls away or vice versa, please show me that. Until then, the canon says Zuzueen (Zuzu and Sugar Queen).

    All this time, you guys have wanted evidence from the show. Well, it is here. Deal with it.

    Or, you can do option two:

    By the way, I didn't make this: http://nimbathien.deviantart.com/art/Free-Falling-Fun-83429662


    Um, yes there is a counter-arguement to the kiss. It was a 3 second clip and we have no idea why she pulled away. Is it because she doesn't like him that way? Is it because he admitted he's willing to give up the AS for her? There's alot of reasons she could pull away that don't lead to Zutara.

    But don't let logic get in your way. The creators would never try to trick you with a preview!

    But people who work at the studios would spread rumors that Sugar Toes (Sugar Queen + Twinkle Toes) is going to happen at the expence of their jobs? Even if he said he was giving up the AS for her, don't you think that Katara would tell Aang she doesn't love him if for no other reason then so he'll go into the AS. Look either way, he's going into the AS. That means, he has to let those attachments "...flow down the river forgotten."



    That's not much of an argument for Zutara, is it? She loves Aang but can't be with him because of the AS, so she runs to Zuko? Somehow that doesn't make sense to me. And since she's going to end up with one of them, something tells me it'll be the one she's actually in love with.
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    Spike815

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    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    Spike815 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    ruboy003 wrote:
    even zutarians are at least they have mai instead

    Actually, if Jin was much better than Mai. Mai is blah. Jin is perky.

    Oh and people seem to be forgetting that it is not so much the hug as it is drawing away from Aang's kiss. Remember, Mike and Bryan have said that she will be with either Aang or Zuko. Therefore, anything that says that she won't be with one says that she will be with the other.

    There is no counter-argument for the trailer kiss. She pulls away, shocked. No smile like in the daydream. No blush like in DoBS. Just pulling away. If you have an official screenshot of her going back into the kiss, please show me that. If you have a scene of Zuko trying to kiss her and she pulls away or vice versa, please show me that. Until then, the canon says Zuzueen (Zuzu and Sugar Queen).

    All this time, you guys have wanted evidence from the show. Well, it is here. Deal with it.

    Or, you can do option two:

    By the way, I didn't make this: http://nimbathien.deviantart.com/art/Free-Falling-Fun-83429662


    Um, yes there is a counter-arguement to the kiss. It was a 3 second clip and we have no idea why she pulled away. Is it because she doesn't like him that way? Is it because he admitted he's willing to give up the AS for her? There's alot of reasons she could pull away that don't lead to Zutara.

    But don't let logic get in your way. The creators would never try to trick you with a preview!

    But people who work at the studios would spread rumors that Sugar Toes (Sugar Queen + Twinkle Toes) is going to happen at the expence of their jobs? Even if he said he was giving up the AS for her, don't you think that Katara would tell Aang she doesn't love him if for no other reason then so he'll go into the AS. Look either way, he's going into the AS. That means, he has to let those attachments "...flow down the river forgotten."



    Dude, come up with a new arguement. I've explained multiple times Aang doesn't need to sacrifice all emotion for Katara for the AS. That was an example anyway. Maybe he says he says he's going off to fight the Ozai by himself so she doesn't get hurt. Perfect reason to back away.

    The point is you don't know, you can't say that she pulled away for any reason because you haven't seen anything more than the 3 second clip. They put it in the preview to keep the Zutarians attached until the end.
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    kaybee_2

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    Spike815 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    Spike815 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    ruboy003 wrote:
    even zutarians are at least they have mai instead

    Actually, if Jin was much better than Mai. Mai is blah. Jin is perky.

    Oh and people seem to be forgetting that it is not so much the hug as it is drawing away from Aang's kiss. Remember, Mike and Bryan have said that she will be with either Aang or Zuko. Therefore, anything that says that she won't be with one says that she will be with the other.

    There is no counter-argument for the trailer kiss. She pulls away, shocked. No smile like in the daydream. No blush like in DoBS. Just pulling away. If you have an official screenshot of her going back into the kiss, please show me that. If you have a scene of Zuko trying to kiss her and she pulls away or vice versa, please show me that. Until then, the canon says Zuzueen (Zuzu and Sugar Queen).

    All this time, you guys have wanted evidence from the show. Well, it is here. Deal with it.

    Or, you can do option two:

    By the way, I didn't make this: http://nimbathien.deviantart.com/art/Free-Falling-Fun-83429662


    Um, yes there is a counter-arguement to the kiss. It was a 3 second clip and we have no idea why she pulled away. Is it because she doesn't like him that way? Is it because he admitted he's willing to give up the AS for her? There's alot of reasons she could pull away that don't lead to Zutara.

    But don't let logic get in your way. The creators would never try to trick you with a preview!

    But people who work at the studios would spread rumors that Sugar Toes (Sugar Queen + Twinkle Toes) is going to happen at the expence of their jobs? Even if he said he was giving up the AS for her, don't you think that Katara would tell Aang she doesn't love him if for no other reason then so he'll go into the AS. Look either way, he's going into the AS. That means, he has to let those attachments "...flow down the river forgotten."



    Dude, come up with a new arguement. I've explained multiple times Aang doesn't need to sacrifice all emotion for Katara for the AS. That was an example anyway. Maybe he says he says he's going off to fight the Ozai by himself so she doesn't get hurt. Perfect reason to back away.

    The point is you don't know, you can't say that she pulled away for any reason because you haven't seen anything more than the 3 second clip. They put it in the preview to keep the Zutarians attached until the end.


    Seriously. It's all speculation. We don't know why she pulled away or why she and Zuko are hugging, so we can't jump to conclusions.
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    iCarly_rox_

    [829]Apr 20, 2008
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    I've already posted this thing in a few other threads, and I'll do so again here because it's the perfect topic. I've tried putting the screenshots in a spoiler tag because I don't want to largely expand the page, but it says that my HTML is not well-formed and no valid tags were found

    REJOICE ZUATARA FANS, FOR I HAVE BROUGHT EVIDENCE FROM THE LAND OF COMIC-CON!!!!!!!!

    Aang kisses her, but wait!

    She pulls back! With a suprised and "No, I don't like you like that! You're a brother to me!" look.

    "Oh no, what do I say without hurting his feelings?"

    Katara runs to Zuko. Judging by his expression, maybe to comfort him?

    HUG! HUG! HUG! AND HE'S NOT PULLING AWAY! HE'S HOLDING HER WAIST! LOOK! AHAHAHAHAH TAKE THAT KATAANGERS! MUAHAHAHAHAHA

    Oh noes! Zuko's falling!

    "Grab my hand, Zuko!" Aang doesn't look very happy in this one...

    She's got him! Whoo! Also, I'd like to point out that there's another person falling in the last few frames next to Zuko. Maybe it's Azula after a super epic battle sequence!

    Zuko and Katara together. Alone. In the cold night. Where it is necessary to snuggle to keep warm...

    Katara waterbends for both of them.

    Sokka saving Zuko, meaning he doesn't want him to die. A little hard to see, but clear in the trailer

    Katara and Zuko working together to get rid of whatever those are. Okay, I admit that I agree with the people that say those are clay models of enemies that Toph might've made, but they're still sparring together, and that's enough for me!

    And that's everything from the trailer. Watch the whole thing for a better image. YEAH! BIG CHANCE OF ZUTARA THIS JULY!

    If you don't ship Zutara please don't start a war with me. I'm perfectly fine that you ship Kataang or something, but you don't have to get all up in my face being all "NO WAY! THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING! KATAANG WITH RULE!" I'm fine with you supporting your ship, and like any shipper I'll post what I think is evidence and will make the other Zutarians happy. I mean, don't you get annoyed whenever someone tries to tell you that your ship isn't going to happen? Let us have our fun, and we won't spoil yours.

    Edited on 04/20/2008 9:00pm
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    SgtHydra

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    *dust clears*

    And with the above post, Zutara is victorious!

    The battle has been won!

    But the war... that, my friends, has only just begun.

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    ruboy003

    [831]Apr 21, 2008
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    it's obvious that you just made that all up....

    katara had diffrent outfit on both scenes....

    when aang kissed katara she wears a fire nation outfit and wen she hugd zuko water tribe....

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    SplitReflection

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    ruboy003 wrote:

    it's obvious that you just made that all up....

    katara had diffrent outfit on both scenes....

    when aang kissed katara she wears a fire nation outfit and wen she hugd zuko water tribe....

    Different clothes? There is only one explanation. Two Kataras!!!

    Wow, this explains everything. Now both Kataang and Zutara can happen!

    Unless both Kataras want Aang.

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    rockon45

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    lol! i mean seriously guys dont wave ur victory flags until the end.
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    waterbender6025

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    your right there are from two seperate episodes/scenes. but think about this, if katara only had motherly feelings towards aang why would she have kept kissing him in DoBS. i swear nearly everyone is only arguing from a 3 second vedeo clip with like no sound, we have absolutely no idea of what actually happens until they air the episode. but it defenantly looks like katara will forgive zuko, thats all that can be certain.

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    ruboy003

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    yea... im xcyted wen aang finaly tells katara that she was the reason y he didnt masterd the AS.....

    that would be the most sweetest thing katara would ever hear....(gay) no ofens zutarians it's sweet just agree....

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    AnimeAngel90

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    rockon45 wrote:
    lol! i mean seriously guys dont wave ur victory flags until the end.
    Please tell me you aren't one of those "kataang WILL happen. Its canon" people, else I will have to hit you over the head with your hypocrisy.

    and waterbender, how long did the DOBS kiss last? About 3 seconds maybe? You guys are only arguing from a DELIBERATELY AMBIGUOUS 3-second clip too. The only difference is yours has aired the scene in its entirety, but we still don't know what really happened, what katara really felt. And we don't know it this time for zutara either. But yes, its obvious Katara will forgive Zuko and they will at least be friends. I think even their frienship could be pretty dynamic and awesome - a romance would just make it even better
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    rockon45

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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    rockon45 wrote:
    lol! i mean seriously guys dont wave ur victory flags until the end.
    Please tell me you aren't one of those "kataang WILL happen. Its canon" people, else I will have to hit you over the head with your hypocrisy.

    and waterbender, how long did the DOBS kiss last? About 3 seconds maybe? You guys are only arguing from a DELIBERATELY AMBIGUOUS 3-second clip too. The only difference is yours has aired the scene in its entirety, but we still don't know what really happened, what katara really felt. And we don't know it this time for zutara either. But yes, its obvious Katara will forgive Zuko and they will at least be friends. I think even their frienship could be pretty dynamic and awesome - a romance would just make it even better
    Dude, yes I am a fan of kataang, but I'm shipping neutral. I woulfd rather have it that Aang goes With Katara, but if Katara goes with Zuko, fine. By the way, my last post was about kataangers and zutarians.
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    caseybocook

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    The shock on Katara face after the kiss. I wonder could it be that Aang, said he was leaving the group?
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    Spacerac

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    There is no doubt in my mind that Zutara is inexplicably canon, given that all prior events having to do with Katara and Aang up to this point are insignificant to Zuko and Katara's substantial amount of screen time together. After seeing Katara back away from Aang and her running to Zuko directly afterwards, while somehow the sky changes and she changes clothes, I know that Kataang is dead and Katara and Aang were not made for each other, because Zuko and Katara were always meant to be. I know for sure Zutara will prevail, so I claim victory even though I haven't seen the episodes. Besides, who knows the story, it's characters, the setting, and events better than me and my fellow Zutarians? Certainly not Mike and Brian, please. Fan fiction is worthwhile and better than canon any day.
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    daveshanFromGMU

    [840]Apr 21, 2008
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    Spike815 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    But people who work at the studios would spread rumors that Sugar Toes (Sugar Queen + Twinkle Toes) is going to happen at the expence of their jobs? Even if he said he was giving up the AS for her, don't you think that Katara would tell Aang she doesn't love him if for no other reason then so he'll go into the AS. Look either way, he's going into the AS. That means, he has to let those attachments "...flow down the river forgotten."

    Dude, come up with a new arguement. I've explained multiple times Aang doesn't need to sacrifice all emotion for Katara for the AS. That was an example anyway. Maybe he says he says he's going off to fight the Ozai by himself so she doesn't get hurt. Perfect reason to back away. The point is you don't know, you can't say that she pulled away for any reason because you haven't seen anything more than the 3 second clip. They put it in the preview to keep the Zutarians attached until the end.

    Ok, here's a new argument: Show me a 3+ second clip from the trailer (with or without sound) that has Katara smiling after a kiss with Aang, not pulling back from a kiss with Aang, or being intimate in any way with Aang.

    However, since anti-one is pro-the other, you could also show me a 3+ second clip from the trailer (with or without sound) that shows her pulling back from a kiss with Zuko, being shocked after a kiss with Zuko, or refusing to be intimate in any way with Zuko.

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