Edited on 08/22/2006 7:47pm
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| JasonG2006 wrote: | ||||||
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I know! That's just how I happened to say that, girl.
| phoenixfirework wrote: |
| I know the Sokka icon is confusing, but there's no Toph icons. And I hate Azula, Katara, and Jun, so I chose him. And Sokka's like my second favorite character. |
If they put Toph icons on, I would jump at them, but everyone else would too, so I'd just keep my coolio Momo one!
| soccerdawg76 wrote: | ||||||||||
I hate her because, like Ashley in Fresh Prince, everything she does is right. She's the best of the best, and if she does something wrong, she's the one that notices it. Always right. She doesn't deserve "praise" because she's no better than the rest of the gaang. |
Not true. Have you forgotten the whole Waterbending Scroll episode? Everything bad that happened in that episode was her fault. Then other people had to bail her out. She was responsible for Pakku not teaching Aang waterbending(we know he decided to eventually) and she refused to apologise, at the expense of Aang not being taught waterbending by a master. All the characters have their problems. I don't believe she's a "princess" or does everything right at all!
| Airawende wrote: | ||||||||||||
Not true. Have you forgotten the whole Waterbending Scroll episode? Everything bad that happened in that episode was her fault. Then other people had to bail her out. She was responsible for Pakku not teaching Aang waterbending(we know he decided to eventually) and she refused to apologise, at the expense of Aang not being taught waterbending by a master. All the characters have their problems. I don't believe she's a "princess" or does everything right at all! |
Yes, but at the end of the Waterbending Scroll she takes the scroll, again, and Aang is like "you're so cool!" In the Waterbending Master, she is able to successfully force Pakku to train her and Aang, and notice how she talked Aang into teaching her to begin with. Lastly, while the friggin Avatar, who needs to learn the elemnts in about 8 months fails to be even good enough to go without training, Katara, who for all we know is nothing special, is a master in a couple of weeks, maybe a month. Even Azula, who's been training for at least 10 years, is not being credited as a master, in the Avatar State she was training with teachers.
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| Not true. Have you forgotten the whole Waterbending Scroll episode? Everything bad that happened in that episode was her fault. Then other people had to bail her out. She was responsible for Pakku not teaching Aang waterbending(we know he decided to eventually) and she refused to apologise, at the expense of Aang not being taught waterbending by a master. All the characters have their problems. I don't believe she's a "princess" or does everything right at all! |
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| Airawende wrote: | ||
Yeah, but in "The Waterbending Scroll" Aang forgave Katara on the spot (or a little after) for stealing the scroll and when she said she was sorry, Katara was immeditaly forgiven and even got to keep the scroll she stole. She joked about it and everyone laughed. Even though what she did was still wrong, it was treated very lightly. For Aang in "The Deserter" he wasn't entirely forgiven. Sokka didn't joke around about that or anything. In "The Waterbending Master" Pakku was the bad guy and Katara was the herione, completely cast as the good guy who did nothing wrong. Which was not true, though wanting to learn Waterbending despite the male dominant roles is not wrong, her reaction is what iffs me. She freaked out and attacked Pakku which is not at all like Katara, or at least the once motherly, kind, and caring Katara. |
So I'm confused now. Your last sentence is contradictory to the whole argument you're making. If she's perfect and?? a little princess, then she wouldn't have attacked Pakku! This proves she 's not the little good girl.
To SD: She didn't force Pakku to train them! He saw the necklace and softened up at the memory of his lost love! I don't recall anything Katara said to force him. It was his own choice.
You're all forgetting, the reason everything seems to work out for her is because it's convenient for the plot! The whole first season was about learning waterbending, from the first episode! They couldn't end the season without having accomplished this goal! It's a cartoon, with creators! If the creators see a convenient way to do something, they do it.
| phoenixfirework wrote: | ||||
So I'm confused now. Your last sentence is contradictory to the whole argument you're making. If she's perfect and a little princess, then she wouldn't have attacked Pakku! This proves she 's not the little good girl. To SD: She didn't force Pakku to train them! He saw the necklace and softened up at the memory of his lost love! I don't recall anything Katara said to force him. It was his own choice. You're all forgetting, the reason everything seems to work out for her is because it's convenient for the plot! The whole first season was about learning waterbending, from the first episode! They couldn't end the season without having accomplished this goal! It's a cartoon, with creators! If the creators see a convenient way to do something, they do it. |
| phoenixfirework wrote: | ||||
So I'm confused now. Your last sentence is contradictory to the whole argument you're making. If she's perfect and?? a little princess, then she wouldn't have attacked Pakku! This proves she 's not the little good girl. To SD: She didn't force Pakku to train them! He saw the necklace and softened up at the memory of his lost love! I don't recall anything Katara said to force him. It was his own choice. You're all forgetting, the reason everything seems to work out for her is because it's convenient for the plot! The whole first season was about learning waterbending, from the first episode! They couldn't end the season without having accomplished this goal! It's a cartoon, with creators! If the creators see a convenient way to do something, they do it. |
He said that Katara's image is nice, kind, motherly. That is what got them out of the desert alive. Just like Sokka is a silly, klutsy guy that tries hard. And yet he doesn't get all out of character like that. He never has anything handed to him like that. You notice how Katara beats the crap out of Zuko, while Sokka doesn't challenge him for 4 seconds? Yet, who has had more training?
Waterbending Master:
Pakku= wrong, selfish jerk who does what he does jsut to be mean
Katara: Perfect, persistant herione who does what she does to do the right thing
How can you prove that wrong? (major sarcasm)
| Airawende wrote: | ||||||
He said that Katara's image is nice, kind, motherly. That is what got them out of the desert alive. Just like Sokka is a silly, klutsy guy that tries hard. And yet he doesn't get all out of character like that. He never has anything handed to him like that. You notice how Katara beats the crap out of Zuko, while Sokka doesn't challenge him for 4 seconds? Yet, who has had more training? |
You're forgtting General the moon it's an advantage Zuko owned her so bad with the sun wrong again I see.
| Airawende wrote: | ||||||
He said that Katara's image is nice, kind, motherly. That is what got them out of the desert alive. Just like Sokka is a silly, klutsy guy that tries hard. And yet he doesn't get all out of character like that. He never has anything handed to him like that. You notice how Katara beats the crap out of Zuko, while Sokka doesn't challenge him for 4 seconds? Yet, who has had more training? |
Katara and Zuko are BENDERS! Sokka isn't! The two aren't comperable as far as skill goes. I'm sure Katara would be owned with boomerang skill.
And Sokka was awefully out of character with all his love interests, in my opinion.
He was all serious when dealing with Suki and Yue, very out of character for the "klutz" of the show. So they all have their moments
| Airawende wrote: | ||||||
He said that Katara's image is nice, kind, motherly. That is what got them out of the desert alive. Just like Sokka is a silly, klutsy guy that tries hard. And yet he doesn't get all out of character like that. He never has anything handed to him like that. You notice how Katara beats the crap out of Zuko, while Sokka doesn't challenge him for 4 seconds? Yet, who has had more training? |
| soccerdawg76 wrote: | ||||||||
Remember in "The Avatar Returns", Sokka did fight Zuko, and lost. Zuko is a more skilled warrior and is a skilled Firebender, Sokka, though somewhat dimwitted, is smart enough not to try and attack Zuko head on. And in "The Warriors of Kyoshi" Sokka again fought him and lost. Besides, Sokka hasn't had a chance to fight Zuko since Kyoshi Island. And Katara only "beat the crap" out of Zuko twice: once at the Spirit Oasis where she had the lunar advantage which is the only reaosn why she won and out in the North Pole's tundra, where she had the full moon backing her up. Katara only beat Zuko because she had the lunar advantage, other than that, Zuko can kick her ass anytime (besides at night close to the full moon). |
Exactly it's the lunar advantage and that proves Pakku is going easy on Katara he is probably like Iroh where he's ten times the bender Azula was in other words each has their advantage.
| soccerdawg76 wrote: | ||||||||
Remember in "The Avatar Returns", Sokka did fight Zuko, and lost. Zuko is a more skilled warrior and is a skilled Firebender, Sokka, though somewhat dimwitted, is smart enough not to try and attack Zuko head on. And in "The Warriors of Kyoshi" Sokka again fought him and lost. Besides, Sokka hasn't had a chance to fight Zuko since Kyoshi Island. And Katara only "beat the crap" out of Zuko twice: once at the Spirit Oasis where she had the lunar advantage which is the only reason why she won and out in the North Pole's tundra, where Katara had the full moon backing her up. Katara only beat Zuko because she had the lunar advantage, other than that, Zuko can kick her ass anytime (besides at night close to the full moon or if she's near a large body of water). |
I was jsut mentioning how perfect Katara is.
| soccerdawg76 wrote: | ||||||||
Remember in "The Avatar Returns", Sokka did fight Zuko, and lost. Zuko is a more skilled warrior and is a skilled Firebender, Sokka, though somewhat dimwitted, is smart enough not to try and attack Zuko head on. And in "The Warriors of Kyoshi" Sokka again fought him and lost. Besides, Sokka hasn't had a chance to fight Zuko since Kyoshi Island. And Katara only "beat the crap" out of Zuko twice: once at the Spirit Oasis where she had the lunar advantage which is the only reason why she won and out in the North Pole's tundra, where Katara had the full moon backing her up. Katara only beat Zuko because she had the lunar advantage, other than that, Zuko can kick her ass anytime (besides at night close to the full moon or if she's near a large body of water). Besides, Zuko beat Katara with one blast of fire when the sun came back up, see. |
