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Halostar11 wrote: |
Actually, i think taking away his bending is MUCH worse than killing him. Has anyone ever heard the term, " A fate worse than death"? |
flawlesscoope wrote: |
I wish you changed the topic title, I would hate it if I read that before I watched the finale. |
Finale already aired
celestialavatar wrote: | ||
Finale already aired |
Undead_Prince wrote: | ||||||
Karmic Death trope. Lame Beyond Belief. Praise God "Avatar" did not succumb to this Lameness. And don't you compare Ozai to pathetic Disney "villains". By the way, Disney villains that were actually any good (Scar, Maleficent) ACTUALLY DIED BY THE HERO'S HAND, and not by stupidly falling down the stairs.
You, sir, are not right in the head. Next time cop catches you speeding, I hope he shoots you on the spot. Seriously. |
Ozai is not just any criminal. Even if Zuko is the new fire lord Ozai must have followers, people who are loyal to him. When the Earth King imprisoned Long Feng did the Dai Le suddenly were loyal to the king, NO. They were still on Long Feng side until Azula came along. There must be many powerful people of the Army (especially high ranked) that will be loyal to Ozai. They could plot and Ozai might not be able to bend but others can.
youtube_tv wrote: |
yeah, i think aang should have taken his life because it would be totally unexpected to see that since aang doesn't like to do that |
That is stupid on two levels. First, doing something just because it is totally unexpected is stupid. Second, doing something that contradicts everything we've seen about the protagonist during 3 seasons just for the sake of surprising the viewer is stupid. So there you go - doubly stupid.
DeepWinter wrote: |
It would of added a dramatic effect! |
No, it would have been lame. If Aang wanted to kill Ozai, he would've done it in the beginning of the fight with the redirected lightning. BAM - Ozai dead, show over. No drama at all. A fight where Aang willingly restrains himself from killing Ozai, putting himself at a disadvantage - now that's dramatic! And stopping the Avatar just when it was about to execute the bound Fire lord - dramatic as well. Much more than making Ozai a charred carcass in the first 30 seconds of the battle.
vampys_girl wrote: |
I was disappointed with the ending of avatar because it is not realistic. I always loved avatar cause it's not just another kids show. In many episodes we see how many people suffer from war and die. Aang should have taken Yangchen's advice. By selfishly choosing his beliefs the world is still in danger. |
Aang was NOT selfish in choosing his beliefs. He actually risked his life because of it. He showed the world that the Avatar is merciful and compassionate, not an inhuman Terminator-like killing machine that just destroys anything that threatens "balance". If you think that Aang should have killed Ozai even when the former Fire lord was imprisoned and his bending taken away, please bear in mind that your opinion goes against the principles of Christianity and Buddhism as well as the law of many states where death penalty is abolished. Also, I ask you why Aang, an innocent child who believed all his life that all life is sacred, should be forced to do such a bloody deed.
Furthermore, nothing in the show leads us to the conclusion that "the world is still in danger". Everyone seemed perfectly satisfied with the outcome. Ozai was powerless, rotting in his cell and completely disheartened. Azula was committed to a mental institution, and everyone hates her anyway. Zuko is the new Fire Lord, and it seems people like him. Besides, what could Ozai or anyone in the Fire Nation EVER put against the might of the Avatar, if under the most favourable conditions and with Sozin's comet Ozai & all his armies still failed completely? No, I don't think there's ANY danger from either Ozai or Azula anymore. They're both broken for good.
And the gAang was right in showing mercy to them. It was fully realistic because it conformed to the principle widely spread in both law and ethics - that justice should be merciful. Like Buddha himself said in the Dharmapada: "Hatreds never cease by hatred in this world; through love alone they cease. This is an eternal law."
DeeDuck33 wrote: | ||
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it shouldve been like what kyoshi did to chin the conqueror.
Make him fall!
well it was HIS fault that he fell not AANG's
DeeDuck33 wrote: | ||
I was *just* thinking that as I came to this thread. Thought snatcher. |
youtube_tv wrote: |
yeah, i think aang should have taken his life because it would be totally unexpected to see that since aang doesn't like to do that |
Undead_Prince wrote: | ||||||
That is stupid on two levels. First, doing something just because it is totally unexpected is stupid. Second, doing something that contradicts everything we've seen about the protagonist during 3 seasons just for the sake of surprising the viewer is stupid. So there you go - doubly stupid.
No, it would have been lame. If Aang wanted to kill Ozai, he would've done it in the beginning of the fight with the redirected lightning. BAM - Ozai dead, show over. No drama at all. A fight where Aang willingly restrains himself from killing Ozai, putting himself at a disadvantage - now that's dramatic! And stopping the Avatar just when it was about to execute the bound Fire lord - dramatic as well. Much more than making Ozai a charred carcass in the first 30 seconds of the battle.
Aang was NOT selfish in choosing his beliefs. He actually risked his life because of it. He showed the world that the Avatar is merciful and compassionate, not an inhuman Terminator-like killing machine that just destroys anything that threatens "balance". If you think that Aang should have killed Ozai even when the former Fire lord was imprisoned and his bending taken away, please bear in mind that your opinion goes against the principles of Christianity and Buddhism as well as the law of many states where death penalty is abolished. Also, I ask you why Aang, an innocent child who believed all his life that all life is sacred, should be forced to do such a bloody deed. Furthermore, nothing in the show leads us to the conclusion that "the world is still in danger". Everyone seemed perfectly satisfied with the outcome. Ozai was powerless, rotting in his cell and completely disheartened. Azula was committed to a mental institution, and everyone hates her anyway. Zuko is the new Fire Lord, and it seems people like him. Besides, what could Ozai or anyone in the Fire Nation EVER put against the might of the Avatar, if under the most favourable conditions and with Sozin's comet Ozai & all his armies still failed completely? No, I don't think there's ANY danger from either Ozai or Azula anymore. They're both broken for good. And the gAang was right in showing mercy to them. It was fully realistic because it conformed to the principle widely spread in both law and ethics - that justice should be merciful. Like Buddha himself said in the Dharmapada: "Hatreds never cease by hatred in this world; through love alone they cease. This is an eternal law." |
QFT!