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    kataang4eva081

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    FreakishChild wrote:
    What were you dorks expecting? The perfect show? I don't need to say anything about Avatar, that's already been done. But I'll admit this: Battlestar Galactica is my second favorite show in existence. It's wonderfully complex and realistic, the psycological depth and moral is fascinating, the graphics and settings are well worth the more-than-a-million bucks poured into development, ancient religion and good old storytelling tactics are used. The Quest archetypical plot takes form in the search for "Earth." But even then I admit it's nothing short of a soap opera in space.

    Well, yea I know, and I agree, nothing is or ever will be perfect, they bust their butts to make it as good as it is. I just wish they woul dgo back to how they did it in "Jet" "The Fortuneteller" and "The Deserter", those where very well done, not only animation wise (b...e...a...u...t...i...f...u...l) but plot wise. They were very good. And yes, to what someone said before, I got some ?'s too with the whole Dai Li situation. You'd think they'd be smarter than that to just say "Here you go Fire Nation Princess, Ba Sing Se all nice and wrapped up for you, yes we are well aware we will probably die for this." Omashu ran perfectley well without all the conspiracy in Ba Sing Se. As of the season finale, the plot seems to be getting back on track, I'm just sooooooooo glad we are finally leaving Ba Sing Se.

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    Leodegarioiii

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    crazyman321 wrote:
    Leodegarioiii wrote:

    OMG, how can you guys not see the difference and the??disgusting change???

    C'mon don't lie to yourselves, i know is sad... I really hope we get better animation and fighting style on season 3!!
    she looks like that cuz she dehydrated
    It's not because she was dehydrated, the whole episode is like that, look at the face structure, then look and the face structure from "jet", look at the arms, and ears. Just face it the animation sux, look at the other pictures from season 2, round faces, baby looking faces, monkey ears skinny arms (sokka) Small heads (or big heads like Aang) Don't lie to yourselves. Katara from "jet" looks older,like Katara should look. The one from most of season 2 looks... ugly. Of course there are season 2 episodes with decent animation, like The serpent's pass, The Swamp and The Blind Bandit.
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    realius wrote:
    The Dai Lee plot left me saying "huh, that makes no sense?!" They hid the war from the Earth King because...? Their motivation was...? They were brainwashing people because...? The Dai Lee would stay loyal to Long Feng even after he had been arrested because...? The Dai Lee would hand over the city to the Fire Nation because...?
    I imagine Long Feng was looking for more power than his position would ordinarily allow (as cultural minister or grand secretary). Long Feng must have offered the Dai Li something they wanted: a cultural authority with real teeth (Azula mentioned her awe of their firebender-like killer instinct). Long Feng gave the story of his vision, "It is the strict policy of Ba Sing Se that the war not be mentioned within the walls. Constant news of an escalating war will throw the citizens of Ba Sing Se into a state of panic. Our economy would be ruined. Our peaceful way of life, our traditions would disappear. In silencing talk of conflict, Ba Sing Se remains a peaceful, orderly utopia. The last one on Earth." The brainwashing probably developed as the method of choice to use against the more stubborn refugees who would threaten his vision.

    edit: now Azula must be offering the Dai Li authority over more than just culture.

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    lightningprince

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    A scene in the show does not comprise of the same amount of detail everytime. Shots are pulled back and wider in some, thus rendering the characters in less details, and closer in others, which include more detail. Honestly, the animation in those pictures looks exactly the same to me, all you seem to be comparing is minute details and lighting.

    as for the bending, the bending moves now are less reserved. Before, they couldnt throw huge firballs or lightning or rocks, so they had to get in close and fight hand to hand. Now, if they try to get into close range, they'd probably get hammered by a large area bend of whatever. For example, Zuko in Zuko alone. Large area of effect. Could he do that in the first season? I doubt it.

    Also, they seem to be fighting either really large groups, or really small groups. Either it's an army, or two people. The army, a massive strike that overpowers them works, like in The Earth King, or they are using lethal, concentrated moves, like in the crossroads of destiny. If you watch, they still do the martial arts moves, just more in conjunction with bending.
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    Leodegarioiii wrote:

    Last night i started watching season one, from The boy in the iceberg to Imprisoned, and i was really enjoying them, but something was wrong, i felt like i was enjoying them more than the new episodes. So i started to wonder why.

    Let's talk about early episodes, specially "The Southern Air Temple", if you watch it you see all this mystery, depth and humor, that makes the series so great, but look at the way they FIGHT, look how is hugely based on real martial arts, Zuko and Zhao actually have physical contact, look how the "camera" show us their movement, their feet moving on the ground creating fire, they were able to create great excitement with out showing incredible and colorful beams of light, or huge balls of fire. They concentrated on the martial arts, the movement of their bodies and the environment and music made it perfect!!

    So what happened. Now they don't concentrated on the martial arts or the movement as much as they did, now everyone just throws their bending "whips" or huge fireballs that make the show lose some of it's realism. I would love to see the actually hitting each other on a fight, but instead the just attack from a great distance, and the few physical contact is followed by a huge explosion or something. Where is the art???

    I understand this is a show made for kids, and kids enjoy big power balls more than fighting style and art, but don't you thing the show has become a bit exaggerated?? We don't want ridiculous powers or a new DBZ, do we?? OF COURSE NOT!!

    I know they got much better on bending, therefore their attacks should be much powerful, but you don't need colorful fireballs to show the great power of a character, just imagine how cool would Zuko be if he fought as he did on TSAT, but with much more experience.

    now don't get me wrong, "avatar" is my favorite show on tv, and i'm crazy about it, but i'm 17 and i think a bit more realism would make the show far more than perfect.

    So what do you think, did they exaggerated the show to make young kids happy??


    I see what you mean, but I disagree. The flash and the bang we now see has a very real purpose: What if Toph had to fight a soldier hand-to-hand? It wouldn't work, for the very good reason that even a non-firebending soldier could take the small blind girl out with a spear. I view any kind of bending as an EXTENSION of the martial art the bending is supposed to represent. Example: Toph's style of eathbending is Southern Praying Mantis (or something). Her earthbending is an extension of herself as she fights other earthbenders, firebenders, and all opponents. It is her martial art, CONTROLLING the earth. It's the same for all of them.
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    I don???t feel that animation took a dive between the two seasons. Watch ???The Warriors of Kyoshi???, ???The Winter Solstice???, ???The Siege of the North???, and quite a few other episodes. None of them have better animation then the normal episode in season 2. It???s just season 2 had episodes like ???The Chase??? which had horrible animation. But one or two episodes having bad animation doesn???t mean the hole season went down hill. Still, I will admit over all season 1 had better animation.

    The plot was better in season two. The individual plot points of an episode were better and the connections between episodes were stronger in season 2. I felt that season 1 had a weaker plot, and to many episode that could be considered filler. The only filler episode in season 2 were ???Avatar Day??? and ???Tales of Be Sing Se???. Season 1 had ???Imprisoned???, ???The Great Divide???, ???The Fortune Teller???, and ???The Northern Air Temple???. Heck, you might as well put ???The Warriors of Kyoshi??? and ???Jet??? on that list also, because they didn???t have any plot significance till season 2.

    As far as the Dai Li are concerned, I guess its personal preference whether you liked that plot line or not. I enjoyed it and I know a lot of people on the forums did.

    Finally the action, once again personal preference. But season 1 had its share of ???over the top??? fight scenes. Aang vs Bumi, Avatar Roku, Jet vs Aang, Katara vs Zuko, not to mention when Aang channeled the ocean spirit and destroyed an entire fleet by himself. Season 2 also had its share of ???realistic??? fighting Toph in the ???Blind Bandit???, Katara vs Tai Lee/Mai, and Zuko vs Jet. I will admit that for the most part the action seances in season 1 were more based on ???realism???, while in season 2 we had some crazy bending. But is that necessarily a better thing . I enjoyed the more powerful bending.
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    Leodegarioiii wrote:

    Last night i started watching season one, from The boy in the iceberg to Imprisoned, and i was really enjoying them, but something was wrong, i felt like i was enjoying them more than the new episodes. So i started to wonder why.

    Let's talk about early episodes, specially "The Southern Air Temple", if you watch it you see all this mystery, depth and humor, that makes the series so great, but look at the way they FIGHT, look how is??hugely based on real martial arts, Zuko and Zhao actually have physical contact, look how the "camera" show us their movement, their feet moving on the ground creating fire, they were able to create great excitement with out showing incredible and colorful beams of light, or huge balls of fire. They concentrated on the martial arts, the movement of their bodies and the environment and music made it perfect!!

    So what happened. Now they don't concentrated on the martial arts or the movement as much as they did, now everyone just throws their bending "whips" or huge fireballs that make the show lose some of it's realism. I would love to see the actually hitting each other on a fight, but instead the just attack from a great distance, and the few physical contact is followed by a huge explosion or something. Where is the art???

    I understand this is a show made for kids, and kids enjoy big power balls more than fighting style and art, but don't you thing the show has become a bit exaggerated?? We don't want ridiculous powers or a new DBZ, do we?? OF COURSE NOT!!

    I know they got much better on bending, therefore their attacks should be much powerful, but you don't need colorful fireballs to show the great power of a character, just imagine how cool would Zuko be if he fought as he did on TSAT, but with much more experience.

    now don't get me wrong, "avatar" is my favorite show on tv, and i'm crazy about it, but i'm 17 and i think a bit more realism would make the show far more than perfect.

    So what do you think, did they exaggerated the show to make young kids happy??
    Once I think about it, this reminds me of how Dragonball changed with DBZ. In DB, they actual focused on martial arts skills. That fight between Piccolo and Kami was LEGENDARY!!! Those moves, martial art moves he did were great. also, Master Roshi's martial arts skills were something amazing to watch. But in DBZ, it's all about the power levels and nothing else. Basically, a guy could be a white belt but destroy someone with Chuck Norris skills if he's power level was higher by blasting him with some pretty attack. Something goes for the later Avatar episodes. I haven't seen Zuko do any spinkick attacks (which are my favorite) since FOREVER!!! It's like part of his fighting style died just so he can have bigger fire balls.
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    pooldude256 wrote:
    cg_619 wrote:
    Nalesnik wrote:
    cg_619 wrote:
    Im sorry to say this. But I think the whole show is going down. First the sucky animation of late season 2. And I think the first time I noticed the fights going down was in "The Serpents Pass", I mean the fights are the best thing about the show besides the storyline. And I do think that its getting to exaggerated. I mean "metal bending" come on its getting to much with that. It kinda fells like the people that do the show are getting lazy and just throwing together episodes. Its kinda sad to see the show taking a downfall


    Blasphemy!! You think Avatar is going down!!
    *grabs pitchfork and starts an angry mob*

    Yea I do the main thing is because of the animation. What most of us call the "good aniamtion" is even bad. The show can have a good story and awesome fights but without the looks its worthless. I hope they go threw different animation companies next season.


    If I may ask, what the hell are you talking about?

    The same animation companies did season 2 as season 1. The animation quality is still really high. There has really not been a drop. All the episodes of season 2 I believe were well animated, and I think season 1 might even be the weaker in animation because some are significantly lacking, though all still well-done nonetheless.

    As for the fights going "downhill" since The Serpent's Pass...I disagree. Eps 16-20 all had at least one really good fight scene. And if I must say this again, it is a show on a kids network. You can say it stretches the bounds or whatever. But it is not immune to the decisions of the network, and if they deem something too inappropriate for a Nick show, they will ask them to re-do it.

    For example, they had to change the fight scene with Jet, Aang and Long Feng near the end of Lake Laogai because of its violence....


    Actually the animation has gotten worse and if they are going threw the same animations companies. Then the animation companies are going down and they should go threw different ones. And I never said the fights arent good anymore because of the violence. For me the violence is just right. So before you start getting huffy and puffy at me. Make sure of what I said.............thank you
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    gunswordfist wrote:
    Leodegarioiii wrote:

    Last night i started watching season one, from The boy in the iceberg to Imprisoned, and i was really enjoying them, but something was wrong, i felt like i was enjoying them more than the new episodes. So i started to wonder why.

    Let's talk about early episodes, specially "The Southern Air Temple", if you watch it you see all this mystery, depth and humor, that makes the series so great, but look at the way they FIGHT, look how is??hugely based on real martial arts, Zuko and Zhao actually have physical contact, look how the "camera" show us their movement, their feet moving on the ground creating fire, they were able to create great excitement with out showing incredible and colorful beams of light, or huge balls of fire. They concentrated on the martial arts, the movement of their bodies and the environment and music made it perfect!!

    So what happened. Now they don't concentrated on the martial arts or the movement as much as they did, now everyone just throws their bending "whips" or huge fireballs that make the show lose some of it's realism. I would love to see the actually hitting each other on a fight, but instead the just attack from a great distance, and the few physical contact is followed by a huge explosion or something. Where is the art???

    I understand this is a show made for kids, and kids enjoy big power balls more than fighting style and art, but don't you thing the show has become a bit exaggerated?? We don't want ridiculous powers or a new DBZ, do we?? OF COURSE NOT!!

    I know they got much better on bending, therefore their attacks should be much powerful, but you don't need colorful fireballs to show the great power of a character, just imagine how cool would Zuko be if he fought as he did on TSAT, but with much more experience.

    now don't get me wrong, "avatar" is my favorite show on tv, and i'm crazy about it, but i'm 17 and i think a bit more realism would make the show far more than perfect.

    So what do you think, did they exaggerated the show to make young kids happy??
    Once I think about it, this reminds me of how Dragonball changed with DBZ. In DB, they actual focused on martial arts skills. That fight between Piccolo and Kami was LEGENDARY!!! Those moves, martial art moves he did were great. also, Master Roshi's martial arts skills were something amazing to watch. But in DBZ, it's all about the power levels and nothing else. Basically, a guy could be a white belt but destroy someone with Chuck Norris skills if he's power level was higher by blasting him with some pretty attack. Something goes for the later Avatar episodes. I haven't seen Zuko do any spinkick attacks (which are my favorite) since FOREVER!!! It's like part of his fighting style died just so he can have bigger fire balls.

    read your guys convo. and it stared to confuse me a bit... please break it down for me....thanx(smile)
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    MCMLXVI wrote:

    realius wrote:
    The Dai Lee plot left me saying "huh, that makes no sense?!" They hid the war from the Earth King because...? Their motivation was...? They were brainwashing people because...? The Dai Lee would stay loyal to Long Feng even after he had been arrested because...? The Dai Lee would hand over the city to the Fire Nation because...?
    I imagine Long Feng was looking for more power than his position would ordinarily allow (as cultural minister or grand secretary). Long Feng must have offered the Dai Li something they wanted: a cultural authority with real teeth (Azula mentioned her awe of their firebender-like killer instinct). Long Feng gave the story of his vision, "It is the strict policy of Ba Sing Se that the war not be mentioned within the walls. Constant news of an escalating war will throw the citizens of Ba Sing Se into a state of panic. Our economy would be ruined. Our peaceful way of life, our traditions would disappear. In silencing talk of conflict, Ba Sing Se remains a peaceful, orderly utopia. The last one on Earth." The brainwashing probably developed as the method of choice to use against the more stubborn refugees who would threaten his vision.

    edit: now Azula must be offering the Dai Li authority over more than just culture.


    Yea, she's offering them chance to live. She even mentioned, that as soon as the Earth King and Council of Phi discover the that the Dai Lee are still in league with Long Feng, then they will be hunted down. When the true extent of the conspiracy is uncovered, the Dai Lee would have no safe haven. Azula offered them to live, to not be stuck in jail, to keep thier former positons are cultutal agents (except with a new boss) The Dai Lee were in a pinch, they were deperate, and had no time to think about their decision. So instead of being patriotic, they decided to save their own skins. Plus if even one spoke out, and tried to change their minds, Azula would have burnt him to a crisp. They were afraid of her. They just chickend out, and betrayed EK.
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    gunswordfist wrote:
    Leodegarioiii wrote:

    Last night i started watching season one, from The boy in the iceberg to Imprisoned, and i was really enjoying them, but something was wrong, i felt like i was enjoying them more than the new episodes. So i started to wonder why.

    Let's talk about early episodes, specially "The Southern Air Temple", if you watch it you see all this mystery, depth and humor, that makes the series so great, but look at the way they FIGHT, look how is??hugely based on real martial arts, Zuko and Zhao actually have physical contact, look how the "camera" show us their movement, their feet moving on the ground creating fire, they were able to create great excitement with out showing incredible and colorful beams of light, or huge balls of fire. They concentrated on the martial arts, the movement of their bodies and the environment and music made it perfect!!

    So what happened. Now they don't concentrated on the martial arts or the movement as much as they did, now everyone just throws their bending "whips" or huge fireballs that make the show lose some of it's realism. I would love to see the actually hitting each other on a fight, but instead the just attack from a great distance, and the few physical contact is followed by a huge explosion or something. Where is the art???

    I understand this is a show made for kids, and kids enjoy big power balls more than fighting style and art, but don't you thing the show has become a bit exaggerated?? We don't want ridiculous powers or a new DBZ, do we?? OF COURSE NOT!!

    I know they got much better on bending, therefore their attacks should be much powerful, but you don't need colorful fireballs to show the great power of a character, just imagine how cool would Zuko be if he fought as he did on TSAT, but with much more experience.

    now don't get me wrong, "avatar" is my favorite show on tv, and i'm crazy about it, but i'm 17 and i think a bit more realism would make the show far more than perfect.

    So what do you think, did they exaggerated the show to make young kids happy??
    Once I think about it, this reminds me of how Dragonball changed with DBZ. In DB, they actual focused on martial arts skills. That fight between Piccolo and Kami was LEGENDARY!!! Those moves, martial art moves he did were great. also, Master Roshi's martial arts skills were something amazing to watch. But in DBZ, it's all about the power levels and nothing else. Basically, a guy could be a white belt but destroy someone with Chuck Norris skills if he's power level was higher by blasting him with some pretty attack. Something goes for the later Avatar episodes. I haven't seen Zuko do any spinkick attacks (which are my favorite) since FOREVER!!! It's like part of his fighting style died just so he can have bigger fire balls.

    Yea, they need to bring back the classic spinkick attack. In some situations (like when Aang and the gang were breaking ino the palace) powerful, "far away" fighting and bending would be a good thing. But, like in TCoD, mor ehand ot hand bending/fightining would have been cool. They should have more fights like the agnai kai, the well fight (I love that one) in Bato, katara and master paku's fight, the Blue Spirit fight of course, and, well, yea, those, in my opinion are the most enjoyable and exciting. Its more exciting to see some one actually hit someone with not only their bending but with their arm or leg or what not, then just have them shoot some crazy fire ball 20 feet away. Some times power isn't always better.

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    MCMLXVI wrote:
    ...??now Azula must be offering the Dai Li authority over more than just culture.
    Nalesnik wrote:
    Yea, she's offering them chance to live. She even mentioned, that as soon as the Earth King and Council of Phi discover the that the Dai Lee are still in league with Long Feng, then they will be hunted down. When the true extent of the conspiracy is uncovered, the Dai Lee would have no safe haven. Azula offered them to live, to not be stuck in jail, to keep thier former positons are cultutal agents (except with a new boss) The Dai Lee were in a pinch, they were deperate, and had no time to think about their decision. So instead of being patriotic, they decided to save their own skins. Plus if even one spoke out, and tried to change their minds, Azula would have burnt him to a crisp. They were afraid of her. They just chickend out, and betrayed EK.
    Or she could have offered them more??real-teeth authority.
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    MCMLXVI wrote:
    MCMLXVI wrote:
    ...??now Azula must be offering the Dai Li authority over more than just culture.
    Nalesnik wrote:
    Yea, she's offering them chance to live. She even mentioned, that as soon as the Earth King and Council of Phi discover the that the Dai Lee are still in league with Long Feng, then they will be hunted down. When the true extent of the conspiracy is uncovered, the Dai Lee would have no safe haven. Azula offered them to live, to not be stuck in jail, to keep thier former positons are cultutal agents (except with a new boss) The Dai Lee were in a pinch, they were deperate, and had no time to think about their decision. So instead of being patriotic, they decided to save their own skins. Plus if even one spoke out, and tried to change their minds, Azula would have burnt him to a crisp. They were afraid of her. They just chickend out, and betrayed EK.
    Or she could have offered them more??real-teeth authority.


    Yea, or more real teeth authority, I agree
    BTW, what do you mean by "real teeth"
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    dumb_person1

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    this show isn't exxaggerated this show is normal.
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    this show is absolutly not exaggerated.
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    I think those old battles were better, too, al zuko's, actually But there is a reason we didn't see that capoeira style (yay, it was like seeing dancing, I loved it!) It is just because he had to keep his firebending as a secret, and even if he firebeded, he was wanted by his nation, and that style is what would be usefull to recognice Prince Zuko, so he just didn't used it. The fights were about 10 feet of distance, because Azula fights like that, you cannot get too closer to her... and because of the dai le were an entire army... But they putted very close fights with Ty Lee, Jet v/s??Zuko (that was too short!??)??the blue spirit and Toph's city fights.??i think in this fire book we'll see closers fights, (a lot of Agni Kais)??except on invassions.

    And yeah1 Katara used to be pretty, but its suposed Water tribe people are Inuit, so they just realised and made her ears bigger, I think??or maybe that growse Kataang will happen, and they are making Katara look younger because they don't want that seems Aang's dating with his older sister, or with an Aunt, please, god! make that dont Happen!

    But I'm not agree the plot is worse, I think is deeper, well, Aang didn't it was the same "let's find a teacher!" crap, but Zuko's was very intense, he was a Price, then a refugie, her sister lied to him, said it was a shame, then he evols, then ends betraying his uncle, and that sea serpent pass was deep for Sokka, remember there was Suki, and the plot is gonna be heavy, with Zuko like that, the earth kingdom fallen, and sozin's comet arrival closer, yay, I have a lot of hope it will be great!

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    andreitayehp wrote:

    I think those old battles were better, too, al zuko's, actually But there is a reason we didn't see that capoeira style (yay, it was like seeing dancing, I loved it!) It is just because he had to keep his firebending as a secret, and even if he firebeded, he was wanted by his nation, and that style is what would be usefull to recognice Prince Zuko, so he just didn't used it. The fights were about 10 feet of distance, because Azula fights like that, you cannot get too closer to her... and because of the dai le were an entire army... But they putted very close fights with Ty Lee, Jet v/s??Zuko (that was too short!??)??the blue spirit and Toph's city fights.??i think in this fire book we'll see closers fights, (a lot of Agni Kais)??except on invassions.

    And yeah1 Katara used to be pretty, but its suposed Water tribe people are Inuit, so they just realised and made her ears bigger, I think??or maybe that growse Kataang will happen, and they are making Katara look younger because they don't want that seems Aang's dating with his older sister, or with an Aunt, please, god! make that dont Happen!

    But I'm not agree the plot is worse, I think is deeper, well, Aang didn't it was the same "let's find a teacher!" crap, but Zuko's was very intense, he was a Price, then a refugie, her sister lied to him, said it was a shame, then he evols, then ends betraying his uncle, and that sea serpent pass was deep for Sokka, remember there was Suki, and the plot is gonna be heavy, with Zuko like that, the earth kingdom fallen, and sozin's comet arrival closer, yay, I have a lot of hope it will be great!
    That's a very good theory, Because if the Physically mature Katara seen on "Jet" would date a 12 year-old, that would be messed up. So that could be a very good reason they are making Katara younger and younger (so we dont notice).

    But that sux, because now we know how she really should look like, but we can only see the toddler looking one...

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