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Is Aang the least complex character on the show?

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    PrincessAura

    [1]Nov 29, 2006
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    I mean out of the leads, Katara, Zuko, Aang, Sokka, and Toph? I think everyone's pretty much in agreement about Zuko being the most complex out of the whole show (and definitely out of those five leads), but I'm noticing now (after rewatching the previous eps) that all the characters except Aang had some sort of major change to their character that lasted until the present episode. Zuko had/has his inner turmoil, Toph had the "I'm a loner" thing that eventually went away, Sokka had/has his lost love(s?) and the sexist thing, and Katara has matured and dealt with her jealousy of Aang's skills (oddly enough by becoming?? a lot better then him)...

    But Aang, as I rewatched, seemed more like a person we've just met rather then a developing character. I mean the first time you meet someone they present a certain image that gets stuck in your mind (in this case, that he was so relentlessly happy). Then the first time you see them truly angry, it shocks you, but it's not development, it's just a side of the person that you simply hadn't seen before. That's what every change to Aang seems like to me, like it's just something that was always there to begin with but we as the audience just hadn't seen yet (versus, let's say Zuko who we've seen without patience and then slowly saw him mature and have patience). Agree or disagree???
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    masterofaeons

    [2]Nov 29, 2006
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    No. Katara is the least complex. She only has a few emotions: Righteous fury and sadness. She's frickin bipolar.
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    ardron

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    masterofaeons wrote:
    No. Katara is the least complex. She only has a few emotions: Righteous fury and sadness. She's frickin bipolar.

    Nice

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    PrincessAura

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    lol, yeah I kind of figured someone would say Katara, I had a hard time thinking of anything where she actually developed. But she did get over her jealousy thing, so that has to count for something.
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    masterofaeons wrote:
    No. Katara is the least complex. She only has a few emotions: Righteous fury and sadness. She's frickin bipolar.


    Best quote of day, and I don't even hate Katara. Though I do have to agree, it's Katara. She's practically the 'Mary Sue that wasn't': she's got the makings to be a Mary Sue, but a few things in her personality save her from it. Other than being jealous of Aang for his bending skills, she hasn't really changed that much. Aang, for the most part, has gotten far more mature since the first episode, which I think is far more of a personality change then temp. jealous of someone's bending abilities. He still has his moments, but he's taken being the Avatar, as well as this war far, far more seriously than he had when he first came out of the iceburg--or half of the first season. It's become apparent that when he does also care for someone, he cares about them majorly, though that's been shown many times, in many ways, with different instances and people. Yes, he seems to give any and everyone a chance, even second chances (I.E. Jet) and even in a way, it's almost like he's waiting for Zuko and/or knows that he's really not that bad of a guy, but once he gets close to someone, he grows very protective of the person, from Katara to Appa. I'm sure once he finds out Toph is missing, he's going to get all pissy and go after her.
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    masterofaeons

    [6]Nov 29, 2006
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    The difference is that Aang's personality is constantly being challanged and he is forced to grow up through the series. It's the struggle of boy and world. Aang wants to use his airbending for fun and feed Momo all day, but is always forced to rescue someone and be strong.

    On the other hand, Katara's brazen personality is always condoned and she is never challanged to be a better person. When she comes against a challange she doesn't adapt to overcome it - she just outright overcomes it. She hasn't changed at all in her personality. She's always been right and is only made stronger each time she wins something. I'd like to see Katara fail and be unable to come to terms with it. For instance, what if it wasn't Aang's failure that cost Jet his life. What if it was Katara who led him into a trap and was forced to murder him? I have nothing against Katara conceptually, I'd just like to see more done with her character.
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    masterofaeons wrote:
    The difference is that Aang's personality is constantly being challanged and he is forced to grow up through the series. It's the struggle of boy and world. Aang wants to use his airbending for fun and feed Momo all day, but is always forced to rescue someone and be strong.

    On the other hand, Katara's brazen personality is always condoned and she is never challanged to be a better person. When she comes against a challange she doesn't adapt to overcome it - she just outright overcomes it. She hasn't changed at all in her personality. She's always been right and is only made stronger each time she wins something. I'd like to see Katara fail and be unable to come to terms with it. For instance, what if it wasn't Aang's failure that cost Jet his life. What if it was Katara who led him into a trap and was forced to murder him? I have nothing against Katara conceptually, I'd just like to see more done with her character.

    QFT.
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    masterofaeons wrote:
    The difference is that Aang's personality is constantly being challanged and he is forced to grow up through the series. It's the struggle of boy and world. Aang wants to use his airbending for fun and feed Momo all day, but is always forced to rescue someone and be strong. On the other hand, Katara's brazen personality is always condoned and she is never challanged to be a better person. When she comes against a challange she doesn't adapt to overcome it - she just outright overcomes it. She hasn't changed at all in her personality. She's always been right and is only made stronger each time she wins something. I'd like to see Katara fail and be unable to come to terms with it. For instance, what if it wasn't Aang's failure that cost Jet his life. What if it was Katara who led him into a trap and was forced to murder him? I have nothing against Katara conceptually, I'd just like to see more done with her character.

    Well said, I definitely agree; I'd love to see??Katara fail and not be able to overcome it. Its not that I hate her or anything, but like you said it would make her character much more complex.

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    masterofaeons

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    lastchancexi wrote:
    masterofaeons wrote:
    The difference is that Aang's personality is constantly being challanged and he is forced to grow up through the series. It's the struggle of boy and world. Aang wants to use his airbending for fun and feed Momo all day, but is always forced to rescue someone and be strong.

    On the other hand, Katara's brazen personality is always condoned and she is never challanged to be a better person. When she comes against a challange she doesn't adapt to overcome it - she just outright overcomes it. She hasn't changed at all in her personality. She's always been right and is only made stronger each time she wins something. I'd like to see Katara fail and be unable to come to terms with it. For instance, what if it wasn't Aang's failure that cost Jet his life. What if it was Katara who led him into a trap and was forced to murder him? I have nothing against Katara conceptually, I'd just like to see more done with her character.

    QFT.


    Looks up QFT.
    ...

    OIC.
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    labgyrl

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    Aang does seem the same, but he did get truly angry when Appa was stolen.?? He used Airbending to kill (or harm)??those bee-buzzard things.?? The kids are between the ages of 12 and 16.?? Aang has his mature moments, but he's essentially a 12-year-old.????

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    masterofaeons wrote:
    lastchancexi wrote:
    masterofaeons wrote:
    The difference is that Aang's personality is constantly being challanged and he is forced to grow up through the series. It's the struggle of boy and world. Aang wants to use his airbending for fun and feed Momo all day, but is always forced to rescue someone and be strong.

    On the other hand, Katara's brazen personality is always condoned and she is never challanged to be a better person. When she comes against a challange she doesn't adapt to overcome it - she just outright overcomes it. She hasn't changed at all in her personality. She's always been right and is only made stronger each time she wins something. I'd like to see Katara fail and be unable to come to terms with it. For instance, what if it wasn't Aang's failure that cost Jet his life. What if it was Katara who led him into a trap and was forced to murder him? I have nothing against Katara conceptually, I'd just like to see more done with her character.

    QFT.


    Looks up QFT.
    ...

    OIC.

    Okay, you know what it means.... What is it?
    Anyhow, I think Azula is the least complex. She's got nothing wrong with her past, she's the golden child and her intentions are obvious.
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    masterofaeons

    [12]Nov 29, 2006
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    We don't know Azula at all. All we know is that she's her daddy's girl. If we're lucky, we'll find motivations later.

    QFT means (according to Wikiwe'relyingtoyou) Quoted for Truth. All you do is copy what they say and put QFT under it and you steal thier thunder. It's illegal in 6 states.
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    PrincessAura

    [13]Nov 29, 2006
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    I knew I shouldn't have mentioned Katara at all

    I kind of always thought she was way underdeveloped but you guys just completely convinced me of it.


    I still think that Aang being forced into these situations is more like revealing these sides of him rsther then development though. If anything, if Aang were presented with a more extreme version of the same events of these two seasons, right now, I think he'd react the same way (which is sort of my point).
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    arrow_airbender

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    i personally think aang has grown alot during the show. he is only 12 years old and must bare the responsibilty of protecting the entire world from harm. aang wasnt even suppose to know he was the avatar for 4 more years and has had to grow up alot quicker because he's the avatar.??i think he tries to do what he can and have fun while doing it, i dont think that should be mistaken for lack of maturity. aang has grown alot since we first saw him at the begining of the show, he has now accepted his responcibilities as the avatar and working hard at improving. i think he's grown alot
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    dude5002

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    yeah and plus he has to deal with the fact that almost everyone he ever knew is now dead... that must suck
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    ISpeakTheTruth

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    Everyone minus Bumi and Appa
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    PrincessAura

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    Okay, let me put it this way then:
    Aang, whenever possible, tries to let loose, kick back and have some fun. But when it comes to being the avatar/doing what the avatar has to do, he tries his best to focus and be serious.

    Now what about that statement has changed from the first episode until now? My answer would be nothing.
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    im gonna disagree. He looked for appa a ton in ba sing se, no relaxing ever. Also, TCOD is gonna be major character devolpment. It will be for sure, and Katara has depth because of the death of her mother. In The Swamp, she showed a lot of death, and TCOD, she'll show depth. Dont count anyone out yet.

    Id say Zhao showed very little depth, along with Long Feng and that guy who was in Avatar Day.
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    adidaZuko

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    I think in the Storm it was suppose to show character development for Aang. You know, how he got over being upset about being frozen for a hundred years, etc. He definately isn't the most complicated character on the show, but there are others who are far less complicated and I'm goint to have to agree that Katara is the least. She really is the "Mary Sue that wan't".
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    PrincessAura

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    SifuKatara wrote:
    im gonna disagree. [i]He looked for appa a ton in ba sing se, no relaxing ever.[i/] Also, TCOD is gonna be major character devolpment. It will be for sure, and Katara has depth because of the death of her mother. In The Swamp, she showed a lot of death, and TCOD, she'll show depth. Dont count anyone out yet.

    Id say Zhao showed very little depth, along with Long Feng and that guy who was in Avatar Day.


    That doesn't count, would you relax if you lost a loved pet? Tha's a natural reaction from anyone (espescially a 12 year old) who's lost a pet they care for deeply. It's certainly not character development and as I mentioned earlier, if they'd lost Appa at any other point in the series, he would've acted the same way.

    Also, no offense or anything, but I specifically said the five lead kids. Why did two people bring in characters other then them?
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