Avatar: The Last Airbender: If she fell?

sjk9000
[21]Jul 21, 2008
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From a narrative perspective, killing characters to just add drama is pretty much the worse reason ever to have them killed. Artificial drama like that is poison for any good story, doubly so when you do it at the end so you don't really have to deal with the emotional consequences. If Toph was to die, you have to think about what that'd really mean.What would the death mean in terms of her personal story, the character development and history she'd accumulated on her journey? What would it mean in terms of other characters' stories, particularly Sokka, who'd be the one who failed to save her?
I'll admit it opens up a lot of opportunities, but there's no way they'd be able to explore them all to justice in the, what, 20 minutes the series had left?
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NYrockinlegend
[22]Jul 21, 2008
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Yeah, I would've been alright if she died, I would be sad though, but she doesn't really have any big ending, so maybe killing her off wouldn't be so bad, after all. Plus, it's fitting to her character, she's really invincible, but death breaks her invincibility. I know it would've been really sad, though. I was kinda crying from the inside, and really getting nervous.

As for the Zuko/Azula fight, I thought Katara, then Zuko, was going to die. It made me really nervous, but I kinda wished that Azula died because her ending was just insane IMO, but it would've been better if Zuko killed Azula, so my feelings changed when Zuko got hurt and Katara had to finish Azula.
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PhilosopherSo
[23]Jul 21, 2008
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I'd be pissed off and probably not get over it. LOL
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picaboomman

[24]Jul 21, 2008

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Im2Good wrote:

hkulka2974 wrote:

personally i did think that toph should've died as well as katara or zuko to make the finale more interesting, but i really didnt care because the finale was so epic anyways

if Zutara happened its epicness would've been better

tru dat

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anakinjjg
[25]Jul 21, 2008
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I think she should have come closer to dieing, like saved at the last moment.
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ginsengtea9
[26]Jul 21, 2008
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anakinjjg wrote:

I think she should have come closer to dieing, like saved at the last moment.

definitely.
isn't that what kinda happened?
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wilddog2k8
[27]Jul 21, 2008
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Actually..weren't they over ground at that point??? If she had fallen she could have just earthbended the ground into a deep pool of mud or something. And if they were over water she might have survived unless she belly flopped into the water...then she would have died.
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avataraang113
[28]Jul 21, 2008
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i said this aready but she could've just made a mountain of earth while falling and then land on the mountain but make it so the mountain is lowering slower than she falls so that it breaks her fall and then slows her down to the ground....but thats only if she can earth bend in mid-air.....idk if she can do that.....only bumi....so ya
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anakinjjg
[29]Jul 21, 2008
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ginsengtea9 wrote:

anakinjjg wrote:

I think she should have come closer to dieing, like saved at the last moment.

definitely.
isn't that what kinda happened?

Kinda, but she should have been airbourne for a while, like Azula in 316.
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assailant_blade

[30]Jul 21, 2008

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sjk9000 wrote:

From a narrative perspective, killing characters to just add drama is pretty much the worse reason ever to have them killed. Artificial drama like that is poison for any good story, doubly so when you do it at the end so you don't really have to deal with the emotional consequences. If Toph was to die, you have to think about what that'd really mean.What would the death mean in terms of her personal story, the character development and history she'd accumulated on her journey? What would it mean in terms of other characters' stories, particularly Sokka, who'd be the one who failed to save her?

I'll admit it opens up a lot of opportunities, but there's no way they'd be able to explore them all to justice in the, what, 20 minutes the series had left?

i disagree, i think adding drama is the best reason to have characters killed. i think toph should have died, she is of no further use. unlike zuko and aang. it would have been more realistic too. i mean, everyone on the good side survived.

Edited on 07/21/2008 4:35pm
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avataraang113

[31]Jul 21, 2008

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assailant_blade wrote:

sjk9000 wrote:

I'll admit it opens up a lot of opportunities, but there's no way they'd be able to explore them all to justice in the, what, 20 minutes the series had left?

i disagree, i think adding drama is the best reason to have characters killed. i think toph should have died, she is of no further use. unlike zuko and aang.

whoa.....no way.....toph is part of the Aang Gang (The GaAng).....if the creators were to split up the gaang, that would raise h3ll....people would freak out and be pissed off.....if someone were to die, it should've been suki (even though she's so sweet and kind), Mai, or one of the white lotus members....NOT IROH!!!!!

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assailant_blade

[32]Jul 21, 2008

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avataraang113 wrote:

assailant_blade wrote:

sjk9000 wrote:

I'll admit it opens up a lot of opportunities, but there's no way they'd be able to explore them all to justice in the, what, 20 minutes the series had left?

i disagree, i think adding drama is the best reason to have characters killed. i think toph should have died, she is of no further use. unlike zuko and aang.

because of all the fandom behind toph, most people will probably say the same thing. but really, she taught aang earthbending, and she destroyed the airships. there is no need for her to live any longer. sokka painted that picture in the end, to preserve the memories they spent together, so i don't think the gaang is going to be together any longer, besides aang and katara. yes sokka would be scarred because he failed to save her but he'd get over it. the death of one of the members of the gaang would be a much stronger representation of the horrors of the war.

Edited on 07/21/2008 4:44pm
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lo0p
[33]Jul 21, 2008
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So Toph has to die and the fire lord gets to live? That would just be wrong.
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assailant_blade
[34]Jul 21, 2008
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the firelord should have died too.
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Bandage2
[35]Jul 21, 2008
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if avatar was catered to adults, she would have fallen in that scene no questions asked, either that or sokka or suki mighta been it to go (sorta like they did in HP, the main 3 didn't die, but some friends did)
Edited on 07/21/2008 5:16pm
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charzoid

[36]Jul 21, 2008

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avataraang113 wrote:

ummmm...............I WOULD'VE FREAKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!but she could've just made a rock mountain to slow her fall.....or does she have to be touching the ground to do that...cuz Bumi doesnt.....idk.....read the "RIP A:TLAB" forum topic page...pleaseee

thats right! they showed him rock bending from in the air. =)

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AvatarSensation
[37]Jul 21, 2008
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I actually seriously thought they were both going to die. o.O
I freaked. I was also pretty frantic when Aang fell...DUDE.
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wilddog2k8

[38]Jul 21, 2008

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assailant_blade wrote:

avataraang113 wrote:

assailant_blade wrote:

sjk9000 wrote:

I'll admit it opens up a lot of opportunities, but there's no way they'd be able to explore them all to justice in the, what, 20 minutes the series had left?

i disagree, i think adding drama is the best reason to have characters killed. i think toph should have died, she is of no further use. unlike zuko and aang.

Actually it could be possible for her to teach other peopole metal bending. It hasnt been disproven that other people can do metal bending so there is still a possibility. It would be pretty stupid if she discovered a whole new bending ability and died before she even had the chance to atleast try to teach someone how to do it. and plus the girl is 13 years old...geez everyone wants to kill somebody...saying "it will show the horrors of war" thats a bunch of bs. If anyone was going to die it would have been someone that wasnt as important and as liked as toph is..someone like suki or ty lee..they didnt add much to the show and if they died the little kids wouldnt have heart attacks. Toph had a HUGE influence on the show...being the fact that she taught aang earthbending..but i guess thats not important.

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OrangeOctopi
[39]Jul 21, 2008
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I definately thought Toph was going to die at the moment, and I would have been crushed, she is my favorite character! I also thought Zuko was going to die when he got hit by lightning. But as my mom said when it was over: "There are little kids watching this, They wouldn't want to have a bunch of little kids going around crying for the next week because one of their favorite characters from Avatar died."
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zukOshOpe
[40]Jul 21, 2008
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[/QUOTE]if Zutara happened its epicness would've been better[/QUOTE]

yeah Zuko should of kissed her and then she should of given him that uneasy feeling she gave aang in the embyr island players and call it a day.

but i like how it turned out =D
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