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How much does Avatar mean to you? Main Discussion Thread

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    Valtiel930

    [61]May 7, 2008
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    ross93 wrote:
    hey guys im faced with a dilema please help me if you can(Sorry if its off topic) the chick i like is going out with my best friend tell me what i should do !!!! pleased help me
    Invite both of them over for dinner, then feed the chick his brain.
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    ZazaReykjavik

    [62]May 7, 2008
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    Valtiel930 wrote:
    ross93 wrote:
    hey guys im faced with a dilema please help me if you can(Sorry if its off topic) the chick i like is going out with my best friend tell me what i should do !!!! pleased help me
    Invite both of them over for dinner, then feed the chick his brain.


    Creepy!
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    tomtitan

    [63]May 7, 2008
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    ZazaReykjavik wrote:
    tomtitan, I think you still don't get the difference between bringing revenge on someone who have done bad things to good (or at least not so bad guys) and causing good guys suffer!
    You said that they should kill their enemies in the show just for revenge. I diasgree.
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    ZazaReykjavik

    [64]May 7, 2008
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    Sorry for some previous off topic posts. I answer the main question of this post: Avatar is one of the most bearable cartoons I have ever seen (Iggy Arbuckle resides the first place)

    P.S: Sorry for off topic, but: how do you all think Aang is going to restore the Air Nomad people? I think airbending is restricted to to them, so the Avatar cycle might be broken, when it will it will come to another Air Nomad to become the Avatar? I don't think Aang and Katara's children would be enough for such a task, besides it is unknown what bending abilities their children will have?

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    ZazaReykjavik

    [65]May 7, 2008
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    tomtitan wrote:
    ZazaReykjavik wrote:
    tomtitan, I think you still don't get the difference between bringing revenge on someone who have done bad things to good (or at least not so bad guys) and causing good guys suffer!
    You said that they should kill their enemies in the show just for revenge. I diasgree.


    Then why else anyone would kill someone? Or you just like one of those bad guys in Saw, Hostel etc, who kills people just for fun? I hate that kind of people the most!
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    SilverDragonfan

    [66]May 7, 2008
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    Me too. And don't worry uys, it's okay if you go off topic a little. Many of the things you guys are talking about aren't topics in any current threads. I created the thread after all...

    Okay, so the original concept was what does Avatar mean to you? And now we're talking about ethics, which is what Avatar has taught us, so in a way we're still talking about the same thing as before, so technically... It's not off topic to discuss whether or not Aang should be killing his enemies for revenge. Also, to answer the past question, I'm pretty sure that none of Aang's children (If they have any) will be benders considering that I'm pretty sure two different benders can't have bending children. I think...

    Well anyway, the airbenders ARE gone, but you have a good point that no one has talked about? What will happen when it is the Air Nomads turn to bring forth an Avatar? Will the cycle skip to the next nation or will the Apocalypse come down raining upon us?

    So many questions, so little answers...
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    ZazaReykjavik

    [67]May 7, 2008
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    SilverDragonfan wrote:
    Me too. And don't worry uys, it's okay if you go off topic a little. Many of the things you guys are talking about aren't topics in any current threads. I created the thread after all... Okay, so the original concept was what does Avatar mean to you? And now we're talking about ethics, which is what Avatar has taught us, so in a way we're still talking about the same thing as before, so technically... It's not off topic to discuss whether or not Aang should be killing his enemies for revenge. Also, to answer the past question, I'm pretty sure that none of Aang's children (If they have any) will be benders considering that I'm pretty sure two different benders can't have bending children. I think... Well anyway, the airbenders ARE gone, but you have a good point that no one has talked about? What will happen when it is the Air Nomads turn to bring forth an Avatar? Will the cycle skip to the next nation or will the Apocalypse come down raining upon us? So many questions, so little answers...

    Fully agreed! But I don't think it would Apocalypse - there will be no Avatar and that's all!

    Thanks for everyone, but it is already 1.45 am in Russia, so I'll return to this discussion in the morning!

    Edited on 05/07/2008 12:46pm
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    tomtitan

    [68]May 7, 2008
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    ZazaReykjavik wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    ZazaReykjavik wrote:
    tomtitan, I think you still don't get the difference between bringing revenge on someone who have done bad things to good (or at least not so bad guys) and causing good guys suffer!
    You said that they should kill their enemies in the show just for revenge. I diasgree.


    Then why else anyone would kill someone? Or you just like one of those bad guys in Saw, Hostel etc, who kills people just for fun? I hate that kind of people the most!
    Well now you're just twisting my words. I never suggested that. I disapprove of killing people in any shape or form.
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    _Sinbad_

    [69]May 7, 2008
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    I've Been Studying Buddhism For Sometime, Training to Join One Day, Avatar's Buddhist and Hindu Themes Helped Me View Some Things From A Different Prespective, (The Guru Chapter)
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    DeeDuck33

    [70]May 7, 2008
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    ZazaReykjavik wrote:
    ross93 wrote:
    agreed but i still like avatar better than Naruto simply because they get to the point quicker and dont dragg it out for 5-10 episodes !!!!!


    Agreed for decreasing number of episodes, but still not enough killings!

    Why does every show need to be about killing someone? If they killed Zuko back in the first season (they had plenty of chances), then Aang wouldn't have a firebending teacher. Avatar isn't about stopping a war. It's about many things, including second chances and forgiveness. The FN haven't had as many chances as you say they did. They were exposed to nothing but propaganda from the Fire Lord. The FN aren't complete monsters, they are a misguided people. But I'm getting off topic. Anyway, not every show you see needs to be about violence. I'm glad that the kids have mercy. If they did not, they would be worse than the FN (you are the good guys, yet you take lives?).
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    SilverDragonfan

    [71]May 7, 2008
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    True, this show has truly taught us that there's more to a show than violence and unprovoked killing. How many other action anime have you watched that have these morals? Not Naruto.
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    AvatarSensation

    [72]May 7, 2008
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    How much does Avatar mean to me?

    Lets find out...
    One, two, three.

    Why am I obsessed with Avatar?

    The world may never know,

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    ZazaReykjavik

    [73]May 7, 2008
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    Sorry guys, but have you lost your mind? Fire Nation doesn't hesitating when it comes to killing you, even if you saved them from death just a few seconds ago (The Blue Spirit (saving Zuko), Return to Omashu (saving Mai and her family from boulders))?
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    Coolcamz18

    [74]May 8, 2008
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    AvatarSensation wrote:

    How much does Avatar mean to me?

    Lets find out...
    One, two, three.

    Why am I obsessed with Avatar?

    The world may never know,

    WOW O_O That was deep. Spoken like a true avatard *applause*
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    SilverDragonfan

    [75]May 8, 2008
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    I second that motion.
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    DeeDuck33

    [76]May 8, 2008
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    ZazaReykjavik wrote:
    Sorry guys, but have you lost your mind? Fire Nation doesn't hesitating when it comes to killing you, even if you saved them from death just a few seconds ago (The Blue Spirit (saving Zuko), Return to Omashu (saving Mai and her family from boulders))?

    Two wrongs certainly do not make a right. And I will stop arguing on the matter.
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    Phyrra

    [77]May 8, 2008
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    For the record, Zuko never tried to kill Aang...

    I'm glad there's no strong violence. I do have a fetish for blood and such, but I'm glad this show is so much more mature than any other animated series because of its depth, developement over time, blooming days (second half of Season 1 and Season 2 in that age), attachment to all viewers, and a sense of reality- all without the use of profanity, swears, and gushing guts. It appeals to many people because of this and its storylines, followed by fantastic characters. Honestly, there's no real character I absolutely hate because of their developement...only a couple. How much does this show mean to me? Inspiration for drawing humans for the VERY first time flourished. I thank the show for enhancement on my art 'abilities.' I was introduced to many songs from AMVs. I also matured myself and became more enlightened- it literally helped me out during the bad times where I had no self-esteem and thoughts of intentional hurt ran through my head. Its very weird, I know. Normally shows are used for entertainment, but Avatar definately helped me a lot. It also inspired me to develop my characters in wolf roleplay, actually digging into my once evil character to become the misunderstood fellow with actually convincing motives. Also, I improved on my typing abilities speculating with a friend of mine. Friends- yes, I made friends with similar interests! All in all, Avatar has been a major obsession and love in my life- it impacted my world tremendously. And no words can dearly describe any inspiration, any devotion, I truely have.

    On the topic about Avatar violence once again, there's that subtle mention because of its rating. But I don't think the creators intended for Aang to be a revengeful type of character. It's part of his personality and duty to do no lethal harm (to his control). How can he do that? Isn't he mad that the Fire Nation wiped out his entire culture? Yes, but he has a tranquil mind before revenge. He's a kid, for one thing. Maybe he did have revengeful thoughts, but in his character, he's much more mature than that. It simply doesn't settle with him. No 'but's can change that; unless those revengeful thoughts cloud over compassion- he loves the world. If [and once] Ozai doesn't approve of this and still wants to eliminate him, Aang WILL react. He's not stupid nor naive. He'll fight back. He just believes he can give others an opportunity before calling himself a murderer.

    Nutshell of everything above:

    -I love Avatar with a passion that burns like a thousand suns and more.

    -Revenge is not in the young Avatar's nature. Period. Done.

    Edited on 05/08/2008 5:50pm
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    Eman5805

    [78]May 8, 2008
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    It's a show that impacted my life's entertainment experience in a way few things can. Chappelle Show made me laugh harder than any other show, Avatar wowed me more than any other show.

    It means enough that I plan on writing my own lil sequel when the show ends just to keep Avatar fresh in my mind for a bit longer until the three TV movies, the live action movie, and whatever else Mike and B decide to do comes out.
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    DeeDuck33

    [79]May 8, 2008
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    Phyrra wrote:

    For the record, Zuko never tried to kill Aang...

    I'm glad there's no strong violence. I do have a fetish for blood and such, but I'm glad this show is so much more mature than any other animated series because of its depth, developement over time, blooming days (second half of Season 1 and Season 2 in that age), attachment to all viewers, and a sense of reality- all without the use of profanity, swears, and gushing guts. It appeals to many people because of this and its storylines, followed by fantastic characters. Honestly, there's no real character I absolutely hate because of their developement...only a couple. How much does this show mean to me? Inspiration for drawing humans for the VERY first time flourished. I thank the show for enhancement on my art 'abilities.' I was introduced to many songs from AMVs. I also matured myself and became more enlightened- it literally helped me out during the bad times where I had no self-esteem and thoughts of intentional hurt ran through my head. Its very weird, I know. Normally shows are used for entertainment, but Avatar definately helped me a lot. It also inspired me to develop my characters in wolf roleplay, actually digging into my once evil character to become the misunderstood fellow with actually convincing motives. Also, I improved on my typing abilities speculating with a friend of mine. Friends- yes, I made friends with similar interests! All in all, Avatar has been a major obsession and love in my life- it impacted my world tremendously. And no words can dearly describe any inspiration, any devotion, I truely have.

    On the topic about Avatar violence once again, there's that subtle mention because of its rating. But I don't think the creators intended for Aang to be a revengeful type of character. It's part of his personality and duty to do no lethal harm (to his control). How can he do that? Isn't he mad that the Fire Nation wiped out his entire culture? Yes, but he has a tranquil mind before revenge. He's a kid, for one thing. Maybe he did have revengeful thoughts, but in his character, he's much more mature than that. It simply doesn't settle with him. No 'but's can change that; unless those revengeful thoughts cloud over compassion- he loves the world. If [and once] Ozai doesn't approve of this and still wants to eliminate him, Aang WILL react. He's not stupid nor naive. He'll fight back. He just believes he can give others an opportunity before calling himself a murderer.

    Nutshell of everything above:

    -I love Avatar with a passion that burns like a thousand suns and more.

    -Revenge is not in the young Avatar's nature. Period. Done.


    That was simply wonderful.
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    SilverDragonfan

    [80]May 8, 2008
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    I second that motion as well. BRAVO! You've said what I've been waiting to hear since I created this thread.
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